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							Please, please, please all of you with problems make a formal complaint with the ACCC. The ACCC website (http://www.accc.gov.au/content/index...Go.x=17&Go.y=8) gives you access to the complaints procedure. ACCC can force Honda to do a recall if enough of you complain and they see a pattern.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
				
                                       
                                 
				
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							Well I will be lodging the above now with the ACCC, no response by Honda, the rattle continues to get worse and more constant, and I have a funny feeling it sounds more like the timing chain than pinging byt he frequency and sound that eminates. 
 
This has been the worst purchase of a vehicle in my life...
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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					  Originally Posted by  Bobjones
					 
				 
				Well I will be lodging the above now with the ACCC, no response by Honda, the rattle continues to get worse and more constant, and I have a funny feeling it sounds more like the timing chain than pinging byt he frequency and sound that eminates. 
 
This has been the worst purchase of a vehicle in my life... 
			
		 
	 
 A timing chain rattle is much easier to believe than pinging as there are only a very small percentage of vehicles effected. In saying that, a very small percentage (under 2%) of all K series engines have a problem with Timing Chain Rattle. It is usually a guide problem, but occasionally a tensioner. Usually it is more prevelant with a cold engine. While this can be annoying to some it has no effect whatsoever on engine life.  
 
 
This has been the worst purchase of a vehicle in my life...[/QUOTE] 
 
You could have brought a falcadore and been a lot worse off.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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					  Originally Posted by  Bobjones
					 
				 
				Well I will be lodging the above now with the ACCC, no response by Honda, the rattle continues to get worse and more constant, and I have a funny feeling it sounds more like the timing chain than pinging byt he frequency and sound that eminates. 
 
This has been the worst purchase of a vehicle in my life... 
			
		 
	 
 We have our CU2 auto and its currently slightly less than 1000km travelled. Havent heard much of the rattle although there is a slight sound if we were really anal. Will see how the sound progresses over time. 
 
Does anyone have a sound clip to indicate how it actually sounds like and how loud it is? 
 
Especially with the currently sales of the CU2, i would imagine the complaints would not be sufficient enough for honda to take serious notice. Everyone who experiences the problem need to stick by each other to make thing happen.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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							Any news or updates or fixes on the rattling / pinging by anyone out there? Has anybody had there problem fixed yet or are Honda still denying a problem. Which dealers are in denial?
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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					  Originally Posted by  orion76
					 
				 
				Any news or updates or fixes on the rattling / pinging by anyone out there? Has anybody had there problem fixed yet or are Honda still denying a problem. Which dealers are in denial? 
			
		 
	 
 well, i called Honda Australia...and was told to check again after new year as they are waiting for solution from Japan..
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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					  Originally Posted by  buddah51au
					 
				 
				A timing chain rattle is much easier to believe than pinging as there are only a very small percentage of vehicles effected. In saying that, a very small percentage (under 2%) of all K series engines have a problem with Timing Chain Rattle. It is usually a guide problem, but occasionally a tensioner. Usually it is more prevelant with a cold engine. While this can be annoying to some it has no effect whatsoever on engine life.  
 
 
This has been the worst purchase of a vehicle in my life... 
			
		 
	 
 You could have brought a falcadore and been a lot worse off.[/QUOTE] 
 
As I mentioned in the other thread, I would answer this one in more detail. 
 
To have you quote such percentages, you are either nieve or working for Honda, which in either case makes you look like a clown.  
 
As for it being such a problem in the new K series, we are yet to see, but I am far from going to the lengths of stripping down an engine that is new and under warranty to prove a point, hell we just had to pull down the stroker in the Evo race car and I am far from wanting to do that again in my spare time which is small if not not existant. 
 
I am sorry, but the timing chain controls the operation of the head and is vitally important with respect to the timing of the valves run by the cams. Should the chain skip a few teeth, the end result in most instances is a reduction in power, skip a few more and your probably looking at picking bits of the valves out of the piston crown, having coured bores, completely rooted head as the lifters get screwed the cams get scoured, fubared valve guides and all kinds of pieces found in your cat conveter which is it now how for most of the fubared parts spat out of the combustion cycle before everything ceased or went to hell. 
 
Oh and if I had of bought a falcon or commodore I would have expected the problems that come with those cars, though they are getting fewer and farer between events. I could have bought a Subaru atleast they stopped production, did a complete recall and halted sales on all stock due to an engine issue with pinging and adressed it prior to continuing to make a buck with sales as they knew it would more than likely have been detrimental to overall customer loyalty and long term sales. 
 
As to the actual problem, I have been told the same with respect to the new year, though it needs to go back again fr the parcel shelf issue... 
 
Oh and Happy New Year to all CU2 owners, I hope it brings good news and a better result!!!
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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					  Originally Posted by  buddah51au
					 
				 
				You could have brought a falcadore and been a lot worse off. 
			
		 
	 
 LOL - i had a Falcon and had far less problems with that then i have had with my Honda!
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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					  Originally Posted by  Bobjones
					 
				 
				You could have brought a falcadore and been a lot worse off. 
			
		 
	 
 As I mentioned in the other thread, I would answer this one in more detail. 
 
To have you quote such percentages, you are either nieve or working for Honda, which in either case makes you look like a clown.  
 
As for it being such a problem in the new K series, we are yet to see, but I am far from going to the lengths of stripping down an engine that is new and under warranty to prove a point, hell we just had to pull down the stroker in the Evo race car and I am far from wanting to do that again in my spare time which is small if not not existant. 
 
I am sorry, but the timing chain controls the operation of the head and is vitally important with respect to the timing of the valves run by the cams. Should the chain skip a few teeth, the end result in most instances is a reduction in power, skip a few more and your probably looking at picking bits of the valves out of the piston crown, having coured bores, completely rooted head as the lifters get screwed the cams get scoured, fubared valve guides and all kinds of pieces found in your cat conveter which is it now how for most of the fubared parts spat out of the combustion cycle before everything ceased or went to hell. 
 
Oh and if I had of bought a falcon or commodore I would have expected the problems that come with those cars, though they are getting fewer and farer between events. I could have bought a Subaru atleast they stopped production, did a complete recall and halted sales on all stock due to an engine issue with pinging and adressed it prior to continuing to make a buck with sales as they knew it would more than likely have been detrimental to overall customer loyalty and long term sales. 
 
As to the actual problem, I have been told the same with respect to the new year, though it needs to go back again fr the parcel shelf issue... 
 
Oh and Happy New Year to all CU2 owners, I hope it brings good news and a better result!!![/QUOTE] 
 
 
See my reply in another thread pls
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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							Well, the 09 Euro was judged Wheels Car of the Year......   
 
http://www.wheelsmag.com.au/wheels/s...late=domWheels
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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							I applaud Honda for such an achievement. I dont applaud them for lack of customer care in fixing a model problem.  Honda have known about the pinging issue for 4 months that I am aware of. As of 21st January 2009 I have been advised by "Honda Customer Care"  that a software solution will be available some time in Mid February, 5 months after I advised them of the problem. My vehicle has now done 6000 pinging kilometers and im not impressed that they can treat us this way and consider this acceptable customer service. Other owners like myself...and there are many of us.. are left 
in an untenable situation of not being able to sell the vehicle with this problem and not being able to enjoy it for fear of doing damage to it by driving it.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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							Guys 
 
I agree with jbowly. 
If you have a Euro Lux manual or auto go to the Honda Australia web site. 
Lodge your complaint by using your VIN (vehicle identification number) 
Then ask you dealer to inspect the car and take a test drive with you in it. 
My Euro Lux 6MT CU2 has the engine pinging or rattle, call it what you will 
its there. And it dissapointing. 
My car has done 2,200 km's and the noise is worse when the car is started 
from cold and it begins at 60 kph. 
 
Anyhow i urge you to speak with your dealer and have and ask them 
to acknowledge this issue.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
		 
		
		
	
 
	
	
 
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
			
				 
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