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					  Originally Posted by  shakkas
					 
				 
				im no technician and im not going to argue with a specialised honda service tech who has also an euro and has confirmation from Honda itself that it is a pinging problem. 
 
what they do to fix it? dont care as long as its fixed 
			
		 
	 
 Its easy to find out if its a pinging problem. If you fill up with a full tank of 98 ron and add a bottle of octane booster. And if the noise's still there, it would have to be something else.  
 
Alternatively, can't anyone just take the affected car to do a dyno run and all the mystery will be revealed.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
				
                                       
                                 
				
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							I had my CU2 Euro Luxury Auto since 8th Jan and have travelled from Sydney to Adelaide then Melbourne and back to Sydney. I have done 4000kms so far and I do not have the pinging problems you guys talk about. 
 
My car has been on 98 octane and once on 95 when I couldn't find any 98 on the road to Adelaide. 
 
For those afflicted with this problem I hope Honda has a resolution soon and Honda SHOULD because it's a really good car and their reputation cannot be soiled by this especially with the Wheels COTY award.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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							My problem seems very similar to the above. 
 
Vibrations occuring (small quick jerks like it is too high a gear) around 2000 rpm at 50 to 60 km/h when lightly accelerating up an incline.  
 
I took it to the dealer, he felt it too on the test drive but had no idea what it was. 
 
He changed the transmission fluid and I haven't felt it come back ever since (5 days). 
 
The dealer also mentioned it might be the torque converter. I pushed to make a claim through my new car warranty and they have agreed to replace my torque converter free of charge. 
 
Hope this helps 
 
cheers 
 
Dan
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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					Honda pinging issue update
				
				
						
						
				
					
						
							Gentlemen, 
 
I am sorry to have to tell you this, but I just spoke with a lady from Honda (Local dealer) and was advised that Honda will come up with resolution by the End of MARCH. So it is no longer end of this month. 
 
It looks like it is not an easy issue to resolve. Anyway my feeling is that they will probably end up tunning down the engine from 147 to 140 kw. 
 
Once again it is a pinging issue because when I fill up with 98RON it pings a lot less. (30% less)
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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					  Originally Posted by  dan8106
					 
				 
				My problem seems very similar to the above. 
 
Vibrations occuring (small quick jerks like it is too high a gear) around 2000 rpm at 50 to 60 km/h when lightly accelerating up an incline.  
 
I took it to the dealer, he felt it too on the test drive but had no idea what it was. 
 
He changed the transmission fluid and I haven't felt it come back ever since (5 days). 
 
The dealer also mentioned it might be the torque converter. I pushed to make a claim through my new car warranty and they have agreed to replace my torque converter free of charge. 
 
Hope this helps 
 
cheers 
 
Dan 
			
		 
	 
 Hi Dan, 
 
That's great news. Would you mind telling me which dealer you went to? 
 
I need to take my car in and would like to go to a place that understands this issue (and hopefully provides a nice service.) 
 
Thanks in advance. 
 
Chris
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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							Hi guys, 
 
Since Honda is unable to find the solution, I have managed to reduce engine ping by following these steps. 
 
1) dont go over 2500rpm (0-100 is now 3 minutes) 
2) switch off aircon and open the windows 
3) turn up the stereo 
 
 
Naaaaa just kidding, I am just angry that it is taking Honda such a long time to find the solution. GRrRRrrr
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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							As a new Euro owner I've read these threads with interest. To me it sounds like pinging and even my wife commented that it was pinging after her first drive, and she's not mechanically minded at all. 
 
Anyway, what ever it is I asked for it to be written on the invoice for the first service so that at least it is documented. The invoice also says .. "Checked and found this to be a normal noise, we have spoken to Honda who are looking into the issue. This noise will not cause any damage to the engine". 
 
The bottom line is that the noise spoils my enjoyment of the car. My 2 cents worth.  
 
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					  Originally Posted by  Tarsnakes
					 
				 
				As a new Euro owner I've read these threads with interest. To me it sounds like pinging and even my wife commented that it was pinging after her first drive, and she's not mechanically minded at all. 
 
Anyway, what ever it is I asked for it to be written on the invoice for the first service so that at least it is documented. The invoice also says .. "Checked and found this to be a normal noise, we have spoken to Honda who are looking into the issue. This noise will not cause any damage to the engine". 
 
The bottom line is that the noise spoils my enjoyment of the car. My 2 cents worth.  
 
Cheers 
			
		 
	 
 Agreed, it does take away some of the enojyment of the car. Mine pings from 2-3k RPM but otherwise can not be heard under other rev ranges. 
 
My wife also has no idea about cars and didn't even test drive the Euro before we purchased but noticed the 'pinging' sound when she drove the one we took home.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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							I have written a letter to Honda Customer service a month ago and they don't bother even replying any more. After spending $65K on 2 new hondas in the last 2 years I am pretty sure that this will be my last Honda ever. 
Anyway something off the topic. After owning Thai made 08 Honda Accord and Jap made 06 Euro, I just want to make clear that the difference in quality is massive. Jap made Hondas are a class above in quality. 
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							In what way is the quality better? My 08 civic has not had a single problem. I can't say the same thing thing about my 08 euro. The euro has more features and a better finish, however, you are paying 50% more for the euro.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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					  Originally Posted by  unity
					 
				 
				In what way is the quality better? My 08 civic has not had a single problem. I can't say the same thing thing about my 08 euro. The euro has more features and a better finish, however, you are paying 50% more for the euro. 
			
		 
	 
 hmmm I paid 2k less for the euro than the FD2 I owned before, and it makes me regret even more on why did I buy the FD2...   the CU2 is alot better than the FD2 I've had... 
 
better power, better response, better quietness, better build, better handling, better basically everything...
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
				
                                       
                                 
				
		        		 
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					  Originally Posted by  denot
					 
				 
				hmmm I paid 2k less for the euro than the FD2 I owned before, and it makes me regret even more on why did I buy the FD2...    the CU2 is alot better than the FD2 I've had...
 
better power, better response, better quietness, better build, better handling, better basically everything...  
			
		 
	 
 I totally agree. You get what you pay for. But the Civic (so far) has not had a problem nor fallen apart. So overall the buid quaity is fine.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
		 
		
		
	
 
	
	
 
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
			
				 
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