difficult 2nd gear

**Crapdaz** · 30-03-2009 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by xxb4xx

Motul is good too, don't get me wrong.. but for a 12sec all day everyday car, I put my trust in NEO, and it served me well

I WILL GIVE NEO A GO NEXT TIME....thanks where's the best place to pick it up again?

btw 12sec euro wtf ? you ripped out your rear seats and spare tyres or something haha

Originally Posted by E_Honda

lol posted same time. So you have used it on your Euro, notice much difference over the Motul? If not i might just get Motul considering it is the recommended MTF for the Euro.

motul isn't recommended MTF vicosity. It's thicker than OEM mtf for euro.
Factory = 75W80; MOTUL = 75W90

Motul is thicker than factory mtf so should be warmed up first.

**E_Honda** · 30-03-2009 11:52 AM

i meant i'll just get the Honda MTF 06 factory

**xxb4xx** · 30-03-2009 12:57 PM

hahah Not a 12sec Euro.. I've only had my Euro for 5 weeks, my Liberty B4 was a 12sec setup

As for NEO, in sydney IS Motor-Racing can get it, any reputable car auto place can order it in for you..

Also, going a bit thicker than Factory spec fluid won't hurt at all, if anything, depending on your km's it can be a better thing.

It's like people owning a 2000 sports car, and still using 5-30 engine oil in 2009 with 150,000 on the clock, just cause the owners manual recommends it.. Not a good thing.

**Crapdaz** · 30-03-2009 01:11 PM

yeh true by age you should go thicker as you said....

**aaronng** · 30-03-2009 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by Crapdaz

yeh true by age you should go thicker as you said....

Disagree.

You should go thicker by wear, not by age.

**power_of_dreams** · 30-03-2009 05:32 PM

There is nothing wrong with the Honda MTF. I recommend it.

**xxb4xx** · 30-03-2009 05:43 PM

Originally Posted by aaronng

Disagree.

You should go thicker by wear, not by age.

This is why I used an example of a 9 year old car with 150k not 40k on the dial

**Crapdaz** · 30-03-2009 06:12 PM

Originally Posted by aaronng

Disagree.

You should go thicker by wear, not by age.

was what i was meant to say

**E_Honda** · 14-04-2009 02:30 PM

i've replaced the MTF with the honda stuff and i'm still experiencing difficulties going 1st-2nd gear on some occassions. If i shift up from 1st to 2nd at really low revs its fine, it happens more so when i shift at 4K rpm and up. Sends shivers up my spine when 2nd gear crunches.

What can i change in the clutch, gear box to make 2nd gear or all gears for that matter always smoothly engage?

**aaronng** · 14-04-2009 04:06 PM

Have you bled your clutch line? Is the clutch engagement point near the floor or in the middle?

**E_Honda** · 14-04-2009 04:16 PM

Originally Posted by aaronng

Have you bled your clutch line? Is the clutch engagement point near the floor or in the middle?

nope haven't done that. I think i'd have to refer to the workshop manual on how to do it.

Clutch engadgement...ummm, well i normally push it near the floor when changing gears.

**aaronng** · 14-04-2009 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by E_Honda

nope haven't done that. I think i'd have to refer to the workshop manual on how to do it.

Clutch engadgement...ummm, well i normally push it near the floor when changing gears.

Bleed it then. The procedure is in the service manual and you'll be surprised at the colour of the fluid that can come out.