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  1. #13
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    Well said Alex.

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    Jap stuff = overprice.

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    best handling i have felt was standard ITR shocks/springs on my eg.
    But i got coilovers because price / resale / adjustment. Not because they make the car handle any better.

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    String that link you posted was very interesting. When I bought my ex rally EG6 late last year I was a bit disappointed that there was no external adjustment facility for the shocks.The constructor of the car said that he had developed the suspension over 10 years and 18 rallies in conjunction with the shock/ spring supplier (Joe Wilson of Heritage Motorsport) and for various technical reasons no external adjustment facility was ever contemplated. I think he said it took 3 or 4 attempts at a setup before he felt it was "right". I have adjustable Konis on my other competition car (a Swift GTI) and I have found the best way to get somewhere near what I want is to send them back to Koni for a rebuild/revalve. The external adjustment facility has never inspired me with confidence. I guess it all depends on what you pay and what you are planning to do with your car. The setup on my Honda would cost I believe somewhere around 7 or 8 grand to replicate although this is still cheap compared to what some people will pay. If you look at the Brindabella car club web pages you will find a discussion there on the "best" shocks . Someone speaks very highly of Ohlins that cost around 20 grand and have to be sent back to the supplier for a freshen up every two events !
    Steve

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    That's just ridiculous!

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    Shocks

    Yep I agree. But motorsport costs can be pretty over the top. It is all relative. Twenty grand would not go too far on even one shock on a Formula one car LOL.
    Steve
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    So true steve

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    It took around 6 months of fiddling to find the right setting on my Koni Yellows. I wasn't happy with the setup until I found the magic spot, and completely understand the disappointment of others perhaps not so diligent in their tuning efforts.

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    Nice Find. Everything that he says in the post is true and backed by fact however to me... It seems more like a reinstatement (just in detail) of the bleeding obvious. As string suggested we are a victim of our own market. Sure the majority of us would love a set of bilsteins/ohlins with carefully researched and matched springs. However, when it comes down to it well over 90% of us don't have the time/money/resources to do the research.

    We also have a need of adjustability mainly of ride height, due to the fact the majority of our cars have to be able to be "street legal" (or at the very least, have the ability to be driven on the street comfortably).

    We are all driven by our needs, I'm sure if we wanted to dig deep into suspension geometry we would be looking at similar equipment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bennjamin View Post
    best handling i have felt was standard ITR shocks/springs on my eg.
    But i got coilovers because price / resale / adjustment. Not because they make the car handle any better.
    Good quality coilovers will provide better handling than standard shocks and springs, however the cheap ones won't. The difference is particularly with R-spec tyres also...

    With regards to the original post, it's pretty much like everything else. Start comparing a civic chassis to a lotus chassis and you'll wonder why anyone buys a civic chassis...

    ...untill you realize that not everyone wants to or can spend that much money on a chassis...

    ...and sometimes people just like to make crap things go fast :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by STiR View Post
    Good quality coilovers will provide better handling than standard shocks and springs, however the cheap ones won't. The difference is particularly with R-spec tyres also...

    With regards to the original post, it's pretty much like everything else. Start comparing a civic chassis to a lotus chassis and you'll wonder why anyone buys a civic chassis...

    ...untill you realize that not everyone wants to or can spend that much money on a chassis...

    ...and sometimes people just like to make crap things go fast :-)
    hahaha crap thing go fast for way less
    where can i get some 6-7k coilovers in brisbane?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 90LAN View Post
    hahaha crap thing go fast for way less
    where can i get some 6-7k coilovers in brisbane?
    From memory I think the Seperate Tank or the N1 TODA FIGHTEX will go close to that from Adrian @ TODA! haha.
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