thx ekdez, i heard buddyclub n+ is not japan made anymore, adn tein SS is way over priced nowadays... 2.5k for a set... im lookin at dropping the car for 15 - 20mm, and want a balanced comfort and performance. have had JIC track spec in my old car, quite comfortable comparing to teins RA and BC racing spec, but im just over driving a "track car" on road everyday. thats y im lookin at koni, skunk2 and even mugen, they lower the car, and hav comfort + performance gain, most importantly cheaper than most coilovers, if i want harder/stiffer coilovers i can just order a set of BC from china and it'll be as stiff as buddyclub racing spec...