How Honda could improve the 09 Jazz.

[Tinter]

Well I've now taken away the high level brake light (and it will be permanent) in order to actually improve safety vision.
The vision out the rear is now dramatically improved.

I found it that bad that a complete car could disappear from the central view behind the light at a distance.
About 20-25% of the loss of seeing ability occurs because of it.

I've contacted Honda Head office to no avail to express my discontent with the feature and typically it fell on deaf ears....contact the dealer they said.
Didn't even want to take a note of the gripe.
Anyway enjoying the new vision out the rear now despite the limited risk of not having the light.

I'm trying to find an alternative light from a different make of car that can be installed instead.

[UNLS1]

Well I've now taken away the high level brake light (and it will be permanent) in order to actually improve safety vision.
The vision out the rear is now dramatically improved.

I found it that bad that a complete car could disappear from the central view behind the light at a distance.
About 20-25% of the loss of seeing ability occurs because of it.

I've contacted Honda Head office to no avail to express my discontent with the feature and typically it fell on deaf ears....contact the dealer they said.
Didn't even want to take a note of the gripe.
Anyway enjoying the new vision out the rear now despite the limited risk of not having the light.

I'm trying to find an alternative light from a different make of car that can be installed instead.

in 5 years of selling hondas ive never once had anyone complain about your problem. hence why honda dont really care.

[Tinter]

in 5 years of selling hondas ive never once had anyone complain about your problem. hence why honda dont really care.

Well why would they? You are in sales and not service.
I didn't notice it until I experienced actual ownership and I'm only commenting on the new Jazz 2009 and have no idea of the rest of the range as it doesn't effect me.
About to buy a CRV and we'll see how that goes.

[terryansimon]

I don't understand why the moonroof version doesn't make its way to Australia.

[kongfu]

I don't understand why the moonroof version doesn't make its way to Australia.

$ issue, good equipment/standards=more $

[Tinter]

I don't understand why the moonroof version doesn't make its way to Australia.

Bottom line profit...one of my customers is getting an aftermarket one installed this week.
I'll post up a pic.

[FitRS]

All of the above plus Honda Australia know that only a few people would pay for such a feature which would have to be made in the factories in Thailand. They don't want to add the additional manufacturing cost if Honda Australia can't make a decent return on investment at their prices. The Jazz is already over priced and to add the Moonroof/Skyroof option would put the cost of it way beyond any reasonable measure when you could by a French car and have the same feature for less.

[Tinter]

We've done 4000kms in our new 09 VTI-S now and is our first Honda.

Would we buy another Jazz? More than likely no.

Reason is highlighted again today after a return trip to Marysville.

The engine is thrashy up and around windy curved roads with lack lustre performance...it hunts for gears that don't exist!
The shift paddles are truely a gimmick and lack the alternative floor shifter tiptronic which is so needed during curved road spirited driving.
Having it only on the wheel is a somewhat troublesome enigma especially if your hands are positioned anywhere but in the horizontal position.

Seats are uncomfortable with little support on longer hauls but economy is fantastic making for cheap motoring.
Just my 2 cc.