2006 Jazz CVT problem

[stylzjhn]

Does this problem occur in most jazz's? I've done about 70,000k's and i havnt had this problem as of yet.

[markcurtis]

Does this problem occur in most jazz's? I've done about 70,000k's and i havnt had this problem as of yet.

It is a well known problem but I think it only happens in a small percentage of cars.

There are things you can do to stave off the problem as well.
1. Change the gearbox oil more regularly and make sure you use the new special Honda CVT transmission oil.
2. There is an additive called "Oil Extreme" you can put in the gear box oil that apparently helps.

[bennjamin]

It is a well known problem but I think it only happens in a small percentage of cars.

There are things you can do to stave off the problem as well.
1. Change the gearbox oil more regularly and make sure you use the new special Honda CVT transmission oil.
2. There is an additive called "Oil Extreme" you can put in the gear box oil that apparently helps.

my gfs car has started to do this...its literally a shudder thru the entire drivetrain under medium to heavy load from standstill. 43,000ks.

2007 vti , what steps are to be taken to get this fixed/replaced from honda ?
This issue IS covered....right ?

[markcurtis]

my gfs car has started to do this...its literally a shudder thru the entire drivetrain under medium to heavy load from standstill. 43,000ks.

2007 vti , what steps are to be taken to get this fixed/replaced from honda ?
This issue IS covered....right ?

If the car is still under warranty you should be OK. I would take it in ASAP. They will probably say "Let's flush the gearbox & see how it goes". That's what they did with mine. Just make it very clear that you know this is a known problem & that it will probably need a new start clutch so you don't want a half-job that will just get them through the warranty period and leave you to pay for the clutch later.

It's also important that you get the regular services done on time & preferably by a Honda dealer. It's not supposed to be important who does the servicing but Honda are easier to deal with if you do it by the book through their dealer network.

[cazz'shonda]

It's also important that you get the regular services done on time & preferably by a Honda dealer. It's not supposed to be important who does the servicing but Honda are easier to deal with if you do it by the book through their dealer network.

Yeah, typically like ALL dealers, they do this because they are then getting your hard earned and it's usually 45-70% more than a qualified mechanic. Then you have to go to them for the replacement anyway as IMO these transmissions are crap.
We decided on a Jazz '03 for our daughter in law and hers has only 41,000km and has had this problem since she bought it. Never thought originally that a Honda would have such a known problem that Honda practically ignore until the warranty runs out. I'd never buy another Honda trick gearbox. Nissan, Renault, Ford, Chev & even Audi all use CVT's and there isn't alot of data about this problem in any of those. CVT's & don't have the problems. Some of them are running V6 and TDi engines with heaps more power/torque than the Jazz's measly 8hp 1.3l engine.

[limleong]

Yeah, typically like ALL dealers, they do this because they are then getting your hard earned and it's usually 45-70% more than a qualified mechanic. Then you have to go to them for the replacement anyway as IMO these transmissions are crap.
We decided on a Jazz '03 for our daughter in law and hers has only 41,000km and has had this problem since she bought it. Never thought originally that a Honda would have such a known problem that Honda practically ignore until the warranty runs out. I'd never buy another Honda trick gearbox. Nissan, Renault, Ford, Chev & even Audi all use CVT's and there isn't alot of data about this problem in any of those. CVT's & don't have the problems. Some of them are running V6 and TDi engines with heaps more power/torque than the Jazz's measly 8hp 1.3l engine.

I cannot comment on Renault Ford and Audi but I have done some research on Nissan. Nissan's CVT (especially on the Primera model) from late 90 to mid 2000 has pretty high failure rates. The thing about CVT is they have very little tolerance for irregular transmission oil change and the use of incorrect transmission oil.

[Mikecivic78]

when you guys say flush, what do you mean. The manual just says to drain the old fluid and put in the new. I want to do this to my father's GD CVT Jazz. And i have noticed some shudder.

what exactly is the flush procedure?

[bennjamin]

when you guys say flush, what do you mean. The manual just says to drain the old fluid and put in the new. I want to do this to my father's GD CVT Jazz. And i have noticed some shudder.

what exactly is the flush procedure?

warm up car , drain fluid - about 3l should come out. then fill up again thru the fill tube below airbox.

Go for a drive - accel. to 60km/h then coast to almost 0. Do this approx 4-5times and you have "relearnt" your transmission. This should get rid of most if not all shudders - ideally you will need to drain and fill again soon to guarantee all old fluid is out of gearbox ( some gets stuck up in the torque convertor etc)

[GU357]

If the car is still under warranty you should be OK. I would take it in ASAP. They will probably say "Let's flush the gearbox & see how it goes". That's what they did with mine. Just make it very clear that you know this is a known problem & that it will probably need a new start clutch so you don't want a half-job that will just get them through the warranty period and leave you to pay for the clutch later.

It's also important that you get the regular services done on time & preferably by a Honda dealer. It's not supposed to be important who does the servicing but Honda are easier to deal with if you do it by the book through their dealer network.

Thats what happened to mine. they said ok we will flush it, and it worked ok for about a month, then we took it back saying its still a problem and they said its no longer under warranty. even though we took it there when it was. Mines a 2003 VTi CVT

[hoey888]

Does this problem occur in most jazz's? I've done about 70,000k's and i havnt had this problem as of yet.

honda service bulletins and maintainece interval is currently at 80,000km. best off replacing soon. mine was burnt and black @ 45,000km. since flushed and replaced fluid and drives better

[debowen]

stylzjhn: It's best to change the auto fluid at 40k or 2 years. The manual is wrong when it says 80k. Also, if the battery goes flat, keep the power up during the change over, either by jumper leads (less reliable, they can slip) or another battery linked into the battery leads or a power pack plugged into the cigar lighter, remember KEY ON. This keeps the power up to the computer system that sets the clutch and change ranges. If you don't do this and power is lost to the auto computer, take it to a dealer and have it reset immediately. ($60) Not worth the risk if you think it's O.K. They will happily charge you $2,000 plus to fix!