throttle body selection...

[90LAN]

another IMO


A throttle body upgrade....isnt needed or warranted for standard / mild even worked engines. So do dont waste your money on it

any proof ?

BAH

I'm running stock 60mm IM on my boosted B16A

yeah you cant afford one because you spent all your money fixing it

def need a bigger one imo

[bennjamin]

any proof ?

No proof at all. Just heresay from builders , smart older people in general. but lets get some dyno readouts of people out there that HAVE used a larger TB - combined with more mods etc !

[Cooker]

You want proof???!!! I know of a B20 with a 62mm TB on it, TODA spec B's etc made around 180whp. Threw a 70mm TB on it as the customer requested and guess what Lan the Einstein, NOT 1 MORE HP.
That was on a B20!!!
Plus I have also first hand seen people throwing B18CR IM and TB's on B16a's and the amount of midrange grunt they loose is just a joke!!! I'm talking 10-15whp less in the midrange then the OEM B16a setup, and these are not bog stock B16a's either.

As I said b4, on a HIGHLY worked N/A engine, bigger TB and IM (bigger then OEM) will help. You prob only need both hands to count the amount of highly worked N/A honda's in OZ that will actually benefit. And those that will benefit prob have quad throts on anyway so this doesn't even apply to them.

You don't know what you are talking about 90LAN so I suggest you don't comment on posts you know nothing about and say silly things like my engine must be dud and say that all us people that actually circuit race/drag race and see the benefits and the downfalls of certain engine mods don't know what we are talking about etc.
You wana prove all your knowledge and Honda skill? You know where the best proving ground is, out on the track, wether it be drag or circuit.

[90LAN]

thats why i bought the spoon one its 70mm then goes to 64 mm butterfly with oem tb
works a treat

where as teh other ones which are straight 70mm would like you said work only on big built motors

im no einstein just common sense will tell ya

im on commenting on what you post
so your telling me it was dead the same amount of kws when you swapped it over
gee that must tell you some thing what ever you put on your car it will be the same kws lol
didnt your tuner do his magic ??

funny how ppl that go on the track think they are the best
any one can go on the track and have some fun
some people choose not to do it

if you were so good as you say and have all this knowledge
have you won any titles have you got track records etc

im commenting on what i have exprience and know and used
have you used a spoon tb before if not
dont talk about stuff you dont have a exprience with

[Lukezen27]

BAH

I'm running stock 60mm IM on my boosted B16A

yeah you cant afford one because you spent all your money fixing it

def need a bigger one imo

Well I'm making 161kw ATFW on 9psi OEM TB/IM

Surely that's proof enough?

Do you think I'd make that power if I had flow problems?

[90LAN]

Well I'm making 161kw ATFW on 9psi OEM TB/IM

Surely that's proof enough?

Do you think I'd make that power if I had flow problems?

wow thats heaps of power for a turbo
try i bigger tb and see if you can make some more power

[Cooker]

if you were so good as you say and have all this knowledge
have you won any titles have you got track records etc

You wana bring up titles?
What Title do you hold? OZ honda JDM Hard-parker of the century? This thread can easily escalate into an argument. Don't start arguments boy.

I have the lap record at Barbagalo Raceway for the 2L and under class in the W.A Sprint/time attack.
And I'm running a mildly worked B16a. To make a B16a that competitive and its fairly standard, I'm sure me and my dyno tuner know what we are doing.

[Lukezen27]

wow thats heaps of power for a turbo
try i bigger tb and see if you can make some more power

for an unopened B16A on only 9psi that's a lot!!!!!!

[bennjamin]

for an unopened B16A on only 9psi that's a lot!!!!!!

yeah thats a good 60-70kw ATW......

tell me any other mod/s for that price that would net you that much !

[90LAN]

You wana bring up titles?
What Title do you hold? OZ honda JDM Hard-parker of the century? This thread can easily escalate into an argument. Don't start arguments boy.

I have the lap record at Barbagalo Raceway for the 2L and under class in the W.A Sprint/time attack.
And I'm running a mildly worked B16a. To make a B16a that competitive and its fairly standard, I'm sure me and my dyno tuner know what we are doing.

im really happy for you with that record but you told us that one already

wow thats the second time you have brought that one up
got any new records

must be fun racing in wa were theres hardly any other hondas racing

of course your going to have the record if you race there a million times

race at any other tracks you pro driver you

especially when you made the same amount of power with and without a bigger tb

got any pics of this under 2lt class record breaking car and motor set up

that seems to get the same power after you do a mod to it ?????

anyway any dyno graphs of the same power runs with and with out the bigger tb so members can see

i build my cars to drive on the street not
to be a pro driver who cant get any power out of a bigger tb
try port matching the manifold ?

so when are you going to be drving in the 2lt plus class

must be boring holding the record in the same class over and over again on the same track

[Cooker]

You don't learn do you. Your so proud, you can't just stop embarrassing yourself. I hope some moderator deletes all these posts for your sake. I told you not to start arguments.
Anyway you didn't listen...

im really happy for you with that record but you told us that one already
wow thats the second time you have brought that one up
got any new records

Why did you ask again then???? You have Alzheimer's??

especially when you made the same amount of power with and without a bigger tb

Who ever said it was my engine that I have the bigger TB info on? You have dyslexia as well as Alzheimer's?
I'm not as stupid as you to fit a bigger TB on my own car.

got any pics of this under 2lt class record breaking car and motor set up

Unlike you I let my car do the talking and not my mouth and fingers on forums. You might like getting everyone bowing down to you because you do your little silly JDM mods etc and spend years finding some rare as exhaust that makes less power then a backyard job but because its JDM you love it and you keep the box in your bedroom,
but where I want respect is at the track, not on some forum with people like you that just talk crap all day and don't know what they are talking about. There is no thread on OZ Honda about my car, I don't need one. As I said, the car speaks for itself.

i build my cars to drive on the street

Ain't you gansgta as. I build my car for the track and I drive it on the road as a daily.
What you mean to say is you build your car for your driveway cos didn't you say something along the lines of "I like my car looking like a 4wd offroader and I refuse to lower it because... my JDM exhaust might scrape"
awwwwwwww ain't that cute.

try port matching the manifold?

Now you giving me tips?? hahaha

must be boring holding the record in the same class over and over again on the same track

Um actually its not. You hold the record for biggest wanker on Ozhonda and you don't seem to be getting sik of it.
Barbagolo's is the only big track in W.A so unless you plan on me to build a multi million dollar track this will remain.
If you know anything about tracks in OZ you would know this.

[90LAN]

i know your frustrated cos you mods fail
and make no power

your my hero i just want to be like you a pro racer that drives his race car on the road

you must feel so good when you do with your track record car

you talk about it so much why dont you post up some pics

and show us the tb you used to gain no power

maybe if you got it to work for you on the dyno and made some more power

you could smash your existing record

care to boast a bit more about your feats ?