NEW 2009 Euro Luxury Auto Pinging

[MKI4EVA]

auto or manual?

[praja6]

That means what Honda mention in that letter is not true is it?

[CU2 Euro 09]

There's been manual's and auto's in the forum with the pinging issue

its rarely happens on manual, but my friend manual lux got it. It fixed now though...

[Bilt]

That means what Honda mention in that letter is not true is it?

I will not believe a word these guys tell anyone until such time the pinging issue is fully resolved.

The sales guys will tell you everything you want to hear until you encounter a problem, then they want nothing to do with you.

My advice, stay well away and purchase something else which does not PING!

Oh by the way, was it not Honda Japan which developed the so call fix to the existing cars which have this problem ? Where was this developed ? Answer= Their factory. So how is a factory fix applied to this car going to change anything.

The issue here is a cylinder design one.

My advice go buy something else.

Unless you want to buy an accord euro that pings with only 12,000Km's on the clock which is approx $10-$12K cheaper than Honda are selling theirs brand new, I'll sell you mine.

It only pings intermittently and when the ambient gets over 27 degrees.

You got to love it.

I was also under the impression that these cars had no pinging problem. Well that's what Honda keep telling us all.

Go back to my earlier post and you'll see a response from Ken Shepherd of Honda where he advises that the fix has been applied and a knock sensor has been fitted to reduce the sound. Not elimate it!

THIS IS NOT A FIX!

So much for a warranty.

My advice, buy something else.

OH, and if we really want to achieve anything we need to get some names and numbers here and write to Honda Australia direct seeking full repair or reimbursement and or replacement. Don't know about you guys but I have worked too hard for my money to put of with this crap.

Both the Dep't of fair Trading and the ACCC have really done nothing for me except tell me how to complain. No point complianing if no one is listening.

Do you still want to buy a Honda ? They treat you like rubbish if you have an issue so why would you buy one.

[buddah51au]

Yes, I would buy another 1 tomorrow without any hesitation at all. There is not another car in the same price range that comes close to it.

[tony1234]

I will not believe a word these guys tell anyone until such time the pinging issue is fully resolved.

The sales guys will tell you everything you want to hear until you encounter a problem, then they want nothing to do with you.

My advice, stay well away and purchase something else which does not PING!

Oh by the way, was it not Honda Japan which developed the so call fix to the existing cars which have this problem ? Where was this developed ? Answer= Their factory. So how is a factory fix applied to this car going to change anything.

The issue here is a cylinder design one.

My advice go buy something else.

Unless you want to buy an accord euro that pings with only 12,000Km's on the clock which is approx $10-$12K cheaper than Honda are selling theirs brand new, I'll sell you mine.

It only pings intermittently and when the ambient gets over 27 degrees.

You got to love it.

I was also under the impression that these cars had no pinging problem. Well that's what Honda keep telling us all.

Go back to my earlier post and you'll see a response from Ken Shepherd of Honda where he advises that the fix has been applied and a knock sensor has been fitted to reduce the sound. Not elimate it!

THIS IS NOT A FIX!

So much for a warranty.

My advice, buy something else.

OH, and if we really want to achieve anything we need to get some names and numbers here and write to Honda Australia direct seeking full repair or reimbursement and or replacement. Don't know about you guys but I have worked too hard for my money to put of with this crap.

Both the Dep't of fair Trading and the ACCC have really done nothing for me except tell me how to complain. No point complianing if no one is listening.

Do you still want to buy a Honda ? They treat you like rubbish if you have an issue so why would you buy one.

Take it back to the service dept.and ask them to reapply the software upgrade.I'd say it hasn't been done properly/in the right sequence.See how that goes.No point going to fair trading or ACCC at this stage.

[Bilt]

Take it back to the service dept.and ask them to reapply the software upgrade.I'd say it hasn't been done properly/in the right sequence.See how that goes.No point going to fair trading or ACCC at this stage.

That's the problem. As far as Honda are concerned, I'm the only one complaining about this and they will not apply the fix again as it has been done twice already.

Just trying to get a response or any action from them is enough to send anyone crazy!

As for what other cars that are aviailable out there, there's a stack which don't ping! Yes they probably don't have all the mod con's as the Euro but they also don't ping.

[tony1234]

That's the problem. As far as Honda are concerned, I'm the only one complaining about this and they will not apply the fix again as it has been done twice already.

Just trying to get a response or any action from them is enough to send anyone crazy!

As for what other cars that are aviailable out there, there's a stack which don't ping! Yes they probably don't have all the mod con's as the Euro but they also don't ping.

Which dealer are you going to?You might need to go to another one.

[praja6]

How about guyes mention here in this forum which dealer in each state applied the pinging patch in correct sequence and the pinging issue is resolved completely. I think this would helpful for others to resolve the issue easily.

I am in Sydney going to buy this Euro definately before end of feb and this may be useful to me as well.

[Bilt]

Which dealer are you going to?You might need to go to another one.

It's not the dealer. I have been servicing my cars with them since 1993 and have had no issues until now. It's Honda Australia who are basically saying nothing else can be done.

I have written to them once again and I'm now waiting. Next step is to just drop the car off and not collect it until it's fully fixed.

Either way, I'll not be keeping this car for much too long!

[Bilt]

The pining issue is now being called “a characteristic of the car” and most owners are not likely to hear it according to Honda. That's what I was told this week after the dealer ran extensive tests on my Euro and rechecked the SW.

The pinging was reproduced by the dealership and a snapshot sent to HA and the response was the above. I was also told that there was nothing more that can be done as the fix has been attempted twice by Honda Japan.

This leads me to the conclusion that the problem is not SW related and more a mechanical/design problem (such as the combustion chamber). And as such, the SW/Knock Sensor solution is a workaround, which is the least expensive alternative.

Welcome to the Mad world of Honda.

As I have said on numerous occassion, this is a cylinder design issue which they can not fix without major expense. as a result, they have applied a patch job and hoped for the best. To bad the Dep't of fair Trading and the ACCC will not do anything about this as we have all been had here big time.

I bet that you weren't advised by the salesman of this characeristic at the time of sale.

Pathetice. Just makes you want to go out and buy another one (not). Perhaps if you do decide to buy another Honda you deduct $15K of the purchase price upfront for perhaps any pinging and or other issues which may arise down the track.

Told you before. They are the Power of Nightmares!

[Euro_CU2]

Booked my Euro in to have the pinging fixed next mid next week and i'll let you know how it went. If Pinging was fixed due to replacing the knock Sensors and two other parts as i am told by the Honda Service Dealer.