NEW 2009 Euro Luxury Auto Pinging

[ACE888]

sooooo after months and months of complaints (and then research by Honda) we have nothing but a software upgrade, that seems to be a hit or miss anyway?

[praja6]

Just wondering is that possibily a reason for the premium petrol. I believe different companies(Caltex, shell) premium is not same quality or performance like others..

My old corolla can run on any bad quality petrol even E10 i don't care. As for Honda they may be manufactured the engine to perform on very high quality premium petrol. I heard the 98 Premium petrol here in AUstralia is equal to the normal Unleaded petrol in Japan. Not sure its true or not.

Euro may be designed and run mainly in Japan not for Australian condition..

[CU2 Euro 09]

QLD isn't lookin good then. APPARENTLY 95 RON fuel is being fazed out of servo's due to state government regulations (by March, go find PULP 95 in most servo's now for a challenge). We are probably getting E10 95 RON. I don't think this will help with fuel consumption figures, so the money spent on fuel will only go up. By the litre and the overall amount you spend on fuel for the same km's.
My point is, if the Euro is sensitive to fuel quality how will this effect the pinging issue. And yes I know the fuel RON rating has been addressed but some did mention using a higher RON rating fuel seemed to help.
QLD Gov is really screwin us car lovers.
And how much does QLD pay for rego renewal? I just renewed for $655 a year. How much is VIC these days?
I wouldn't bother with Shell, it's crapolar! Defintiely noticed dirtier exhaust pipes and less power. Even my old Daewoo Nubira(which wasn't that sensitive to fuel) felt slugish on Shells 98 Ron fuel and didn't seem to run as well as it did on BP Ultimate.

Who nows what the TSX in the US runs on, as their 'Premium' (US) is only 91 RON, with some companies selling 93 and 94 RON stuff.

[SPQR]

....Who nows what the TSX in the US runs on, as their 'Premium' (US) is only 91 RON, with some companies selling 93 and 94 RON stuff.

They don't use R.O.N. in the USA; it's "P.O.N." for Pump Octane Number which can be up to 8-10 octane numbers lower than R.O.N. So USA not directly comparable to the rest of the world (as usual).

[buddah51au]

Welcome to the Mad world of Honda.

As I have said on numerous occassion, this is a cylinder design issue which they can not fix without major expense. as a result, they have applied a patch job and hoped for the best. To bad the Dep't of fair Trading and the ACCC will not do anything about this as we have all been had here big time.

I bet that you weren't advised by the salesman of this characeristic at the time of sale.

Pathetice. Just makes you want to go out and buy another one (not). Perhaps if you do decide to buy another Honda you deduct $15K of the purchase price upfront for perhaps any pinging and or other issues which may arise down the track.

Told you before. They are the Power of Nightmares!

If that statement was correct, every K24Z3 engine would have exactly the same problem which clearly is not the case. Personal, ill-informed comments like that achieve absolutely nothing.

[Bilt]

If that statement was correct, every K24Z3 engine would have exactly the same problem which clearly is not the case. Personal, ill-informed comments like that achieve absolutely nothing.

This information has been provided to me by Honda themselves. Hence why they can't do anything else. I'm merely passing on what I have been told given there are a number of us which have been afftected by this problem. IIf it's incorrect then I apologiose but can only pass on what I have been advised. I'm no mechanic that's for sure but do know a bit about cars. I have also been advised that everyone one of these vehicles does have this problem. Perhaps some not as bad as others and you may be one of the lucky ones.

Even Irving has been advised it's a characteristic of this model. If it wasn't why has Honda said it is.

[buddah51au]

This information has been provided to me by Honda themselves. Hence why they can't do anything else. I'm merely passing on what I have been told given there are a number of us which have been afftected by this problem. IIf it's incorrect then I apologiose but can only pass on what I have been advised. I'm no mechanic that's for sure but do know a bit about cars. I have also been advised that everyone one of these vehicles does have this problem. Perhaps some not as bad as others and you may be one of the lucky ones.

Even Irving has been advised it's a characteristic of this model. If it wasn't why has Honda said it is.

If every one of these cars is supposedly effected, that means myself, Denot & TypeR to name but a few don't know what we are talking about .... Interesting!

[Bilt]

If every one of these cars is supposedly effected, that means myself, Denot & TypeR to name but a few don't know what we are talking about .... Interesting!

Buddah, you are not reading my commentary. I am merely saying that's what I have been told by Honda. This is what I'm saying. I'm not saying that anyone else on this forum does not know what they are talking about.

In any case, given this is upsetting yourself I'll just let it rest as I'm not looking to upset anyone here.

My issue is with Honda and not anyone here.

[MKI4EVA]

fark picking up the manual blue lux midday today.............tick tick tick

[Zapped]

...HA have already pointed the finger at the fuel and now only specify 98RON.

Is that right??

Has HA officially changed the fuel specification for the CU2 or is it jut a rumor?

If HA have in fact changed the fuel specifications for the CU2 I would have expected them to communicate this to all the owner of the car.

Can anybody confirm that the fuel specification has now changed to 98RON only?

[buddah51au]

Buddah, you are not reading my commentary. I am merely saying that's what I have been told by Honda. This is what I'm saying. I'm not saying that anyone else on this forum does not know what they are talking about.

In any case, given this is upsetting yourself I'll just let it rest as I'm not looking to upset anyone here.

My issue is with Honda and not anyone here.

I am not upset in any way by your comments, I just don't believe they are factual.

Sure, there are a number of Euro's & Acura TSX's with this issue. I keep myself updated on both forums. I believe there are less cars effected with the problem compared to those that the update has not fixed. I personally believe it is incorrect to say it is a cylinder design problem because if this was in fact the case, 100% of K24Z3 engines would have exactly the same problem & this is clearly not the case.

I believe personally that those who still experience the problem use dealerships that do not apply the update in the correct sequence. If my Dealer is to be believed, (the last time I spoke to them) they had applied the update to 49 vehicles (They were updating every CU2 they had sold whether a complaint had been made or not). Of the 49 they had updated there was only 1 with an ongoing problem, be it very minor.

[MKI4EVA]

if and when we have a meet can someone kindly let me sit in their car that has the PING. very curious as to what this sounds like now that the thread has gone just shy of 100 pg's.

Car just picked up.........can't wait to run in the brake pads and clutch.

Then it's off to wiseman's ferry run sunday morning.