Project from wreck to vtec

[markismaximus]

This is more about me learning things for myself and getting experience. Sure i could go and take both cars to a workshop and pay them to get the work done like i did with the white sedan originally, but then i would be none the wiser and the conversion might not have been done the way i wanted it to be.

Well said. This was one of the reasons I also chose to keep it low budget too, more about learning about my ED. And by the end of this you will, I'm pretty sure there isn't one thing I couldn't remove, fix, or replace on my ED good luck with it

[Henessaayyy]

why not go b16 or b18 ?
sohc vtec will get boring man :P

[markismaximus]

why not go b16 or b18 ?
sohc vtec will get boring man :P

And about the engine choice, this is about me building something fun to drive. Its not for all out power or racing quarter mile, if i was gonna build a car for that i wouldn't be using the civic but a rwd or 4wd based car. Eg supra.

This is more about me learning things for myself and getting experience.

he's already answered your question. just gotta read the posts

[Henessaayyy]

and you've justified what exactly?
he can still learn from a b-series and he can still build something fun to drive... atleast in a b18 it'll be ALOT more fun to drive.

[markismaximus]

I didn't need to justify anything.

Also isn't there already a shit-fight B-series D-series thread

[Val]

and you've justified what exactly?
he can still learn from a b-series and he can still build something fun to drive... atleast in a b18 it'll be ALOT more fun to drive.

Because of cost. Just like i could say why go a B when you can go a K? It would be even more fun. True. But not cost effective. I've already had a car with a d16 sitting in the driveway, the car im building now cost me $300. If i was to go out and buy B series shit it would be a few grand, plus im still stuck with a d16 in the driveway thats not going anywhere.

It still goes further, as im doing this to learn and somehow end up stuffing up the g/box or the engine i can replace them cheap, where as with the b series its more of an investment, and with a K its more of a loan.

[Henessaayyy]

Valid points. I understand where you're coming from, suppose I'm in the same situation, 'budget' wise. Well really, as long as you're happy with it. Sorry to be a party pooper. Some people just don't understand some things :P

[dougie_504]

Props to you OP. Personally I love my D16Y1 even if it isn't as tough as my B16A. I am quite affectionate with the D-series, there's something to be respected about the underdog engine

[markismaximus]

Just thought I would also throw this out there for everyone asking why not do a B swap. Comparing B16A equipped VTiR coupe and a ED civic hatch with D16Y1. The power to weight ratios of both vehicles are almost identical. All data taken from honda.com.au

VTiR Coupe B16A. 118kw@7600rpm, 150nm@7000. Vehicle weight: 1114kg. Power to weight of 0.1059kw / kg

ED Civic Hatch with D16Y1. 96kw@6600, 145nm@5200. Vehicle weight: 900kg. Power to weight of 0.1067kw / kg

So the ED actually has a better power to weight ratio than the VtiR, if only just. Also given the D16 makes peak power and torque at 1000rpm and 1800rpm lower it might not be as slow as people would first think. I know this is all theoretical and its more than just power that makes a car fast but just something to think about.

[Val]

Did some work over the Easter long weekend.

Pulled the engine out, put the wheels & bonnet back on car was a rolling shell pretty much. I rolled out both cars from my driveway and then cleaned up the garage from all the grease and rubbish that has been collecting there. Also i replaced the plastic sheets i had on the ground and laid new ones.

Then i cleaned up the engine bay in the red civic from the grease and dirt that got in there. Also took off the panels on the sides of the car, rear seats, rear seat belts, etc. It appears that the rear passenger side window has been smashed, as there was glass everywhere right under the panel. I cleaned up the inside of the car aswell. Also plenty of ciggy butts, as i non-smoker that really disgusts me.

now for the piccies:





pic of the white car again, removed some of the parts at the front & cleaned up dirt, leaves and other crap thats gotten there during the last 2 years.


pic of the red car, 4wd mode!


must say this is pretty light now, i pushed this thing myself up the driveway with a mate inside steering from the floor as the seats are out haha

[Val]

Been away and very busy lately. Did a little bit of work today, trying to clean out the engine bay as much by removing anything i can. Im thinking i will sand it down and spray it before i start on anything else. I ran into a problem though, i've undone 1 bolt from the hardlines for the brakes, however every single other bolt is rusted to the connections i tried un-doing them, but the spanner just take off an edge of the bolt and comes off. Now i need some ideas on what i can do about it.

I though use a dremmel to cut off at the hardline ends, then used a flaring tool and replace the screw in bolts, considering i plan on using the DA9 BC and booster.

Anyone got a flaring tool i could borrow just for a few hours?

[vtecing]

i bet the supra will always be the daily. the civic will end up being some kind of track monster