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					05-06-2010 08:09 AM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  Type R Positive
					 
				 
				Nah mate, a few unlucky people got the 'ping'. Seems to be mostly auto's, base and lux. 
 
your car is fine. enjoy! 
			
		 
	 
 my car is a base manual and i got the ping ... it was pretty bad ...
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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					05-06-2010 09:18 AM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  SPQR
					 
				 
				No record of the patch/fix/unfix. Unless it's a safety recall, there is no owner viewable record of such fixes. It's one of the ways manufacturers make it difficult to judge what's really happening. In a safety recall, they usually apply a small label on one of the door posts. This they have to do in case the ACCC does an audit. But voluntary work like the ping fix goes unrecorded as far as the public is concerned. That's how they can claim that there are only 60 affected cars in the whole of Australia: You simply couldn't prove any different. 
			
		 
	 
 Interesting, in that case if the owner sells the car and the person purchasing wouldn't know anything about it(just realise the person purchasing the car doesn't know about this forum).. 
 
So far i never hear anything in my car..hope mine is a car doesn't affect with pinging..its a 2010 jan built My10 auto
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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					05-06-2010 09:26 AM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  praja6
					 
				 
				Interesting, in that case if the owner sells the car and the person purchasing wouldn't know anything about it(just realise the person purchasing the car doesn't know about this forum).. 
			
		 
	 
 thats a good thing not a bad thing....
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
				
                                       
                                 
				
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					05-06-2010 09:31 AM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  Type R Positive
					 
				 
				thats a good thing not a bad thing.... 
			
		 
	 
 I bet you guys, i don't think anyone affected with the bad pinging will sell this car, unless some urgent need for money or so... 
 
The reason i asked this, one of my friend's 10months old CRV got oil leake from engine and they ended up replaced with new engine from japan.. THey didn't record this in logbook, but the dealer should have some record rite? 
Good think, after he was having 10k on the clock, he got a new engine which is new(should be like start from zero km)and he is happy and after that no issue with his engine at all..
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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					05-06-2010 09:36 AM
				
			
			
				
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							Wow Raja, did Honda replace it under warranty?
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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					05-06-2010 09:52 AM
				
			
			
				
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							Yeap for my friend they did.. as the brand new CRV got oil leakage after 3months of his purchase, trivett parra fixed it, then after 7months it started leaking again.. his car was at dealer service centre for nearly 3weeks.. He had to make lot of calls to the dealer then dealer manager. He is not happy with the delaer customer service, but they finally ended up replace the new engine... 
 
He got only normal 3yrs warranty anyway... 
 
He is now happy with the CRV, but he said he may be the unlucky one with that issue...
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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					05-06-2010 03:57 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  praja6
					 
				 
				I bet you guys, i don't think anyone affected with the bad pinging will sell this car, unless some urgent need for money or so... 
 
The reason i asked this, one of my friend's 10months old CRV got oil leake from engine and they ended up replaced with new engine from japan.. THey didn't record this in logbook, but the dealer should have some record rite? 
Good think, after he was having 10k on the clock, he got a new engine which is new(should be like start from zero km)and he is happy and after that no issue with his engine at all.. 
			
		 
	 
 Already sold my Euro because of the pinginmg issue. I will not go thru this nightmare again. Will not buy Honda again! Will also not recommend Honda to anyone I know. They are a joke and I fdo not care what anyoner says on this forum as I have had to deal with the personaly. Warranty means nothing to Honda. 
 
I'm glad that everything has worked out for the rest of you guys and wisjh yopu all the best but this was not the case for me. Honda was not willing to work with me so I have sold my vehicle. No more stress.  
 
 
Good luck to the rest of you who may be encounteriung the pinging issues with the Euro. 
 
Cheers 
 
Bilt
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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					05-06-2010 08:42 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  SPQR
					 
				 
				......That's how they can claim that there are only 60 affected cars in the whole of Australia: You simply couldn't prove any different. 
			
		 
	 
 Last Wednesday I took my 09 Luxi Navi to a Honda dealer in the northern suburbs of Melbourne where they confirmed that my car has the PING problem (or post combustion as they call it).  
 
The technician told me that he alone has appliede the fix to about 80 of them.....So much for the 60 affected cars in the whole of Australia. 
 
I have now been booked for the 16 June because they have to get the parts to fix it. I'll report back after the fix. 
 
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					05-06-2010 09:54 PM
				
			
			
				
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							Over 1k posts later, Just some thoughts on this,  
I own a 2008 May CU2 Auto L. amongst the first CU2's off the production line. Done 24k to date. 
Do I have the 'Ping'? yes. 
Have had it (or noticed it)? yes, since about 17k... 
Does it affect perfomance, Strangley, NO.  
has it had the 'ping' fix...no 
I've driven poorly tuned, ill-fueled, Pinging, vehicles before, and one constant has been that the 'ping' always began at the near-bottom of the rev range, and got worse as you pushed the pedal further, ending with the engine cutting out! 
I've never experienced the above with my Accord Euro. the 'ping' begins at the top of the rev range in 2-3rd gear,2.5-2.8RPM. and its erratic,depending on Load- Terrain, beyond which, its pure pleasure to dirve. 
Its always been fuelled with 95'. I'd not fuel it with 98, as I'm of the opinion, that if I did, Honda should have to pay the differnce, as they recommend 95!!! 
 
The only variable I can site, on this forum, is that its generally warmer in Oz, where most of the complaints come from, than it is in NZ. I have to admit, I first noticed the 'Ping' during the past summer! and that was after my kids got over the stereo, and I had the opportunity to drive listening to the engine sing! 
 
We get the same fuel you do(I believe). So perhaps I'm (we're) lucky. 
 
It brings me back to the possibilty that insufficient ground/field tesing was conducted, pior to launching this model, to accomodate fuel quality etc, in the Euro's launch market!, thats honda's folly.  
Is it a bad car, No (picture yourself driving a Camry today!!?) 
 
Would I recommend it? yes, have already... 
 
Cheers, 
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					06-06-2010 09:14 AM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  Bilt
					 
				 
				Already sold my Euro because of the pinginmg issue. I will not go thru this nightmare again. Will not buy Honda again! Will also not recommend Honda to anyone I know. They are a joke and I fdo not care what anyoner says on this forum as I have had to deal with the personaly. Warranty means nothing to Honda. 
 
I'm glad that everything has worked out for the rest of you guys and wisjh yopu all the best but this was not the case for me. Honda was not willing to work with me so I have sold my vehicle. No more stress.  
 
 
Good luck to the rest of you who may be encounteriung the pinging issues with the Euro. 
 
Cheers 
 
Bilt 
			
		 
	 
 Yep, Owning a HONDA has been a NIGHTMARE!  
 
NEVER AGAIN!!!! 
 
I HAVE HAD NOTHING BUT TROUBLE WITH THIS PING. 
 
THINKING OF TRADING UP TO A HYUNDAI (i45).
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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					06-06-2010 11:21 AM
				
			
			
				
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							no wonder on carsales people are selling their CU2 with just few thousand kms on the clock. 
I was in the market for a CU2. i might get a CU2 with no ping issue like the majority of CU2 owners (according to this forum) 
but it definitely will affect the resale value when people noticed ping problem with this car. personally i will not buy a second hand CU2 in fear of ping problem where previous owner just want to get rid of the car. 
if i buy a new CU2 I will be in fear that the ping might appear in few months when Kms build up. I am a busy person and have no time to take the car for a fix. 
with all these hassles in the head I decided to go for golf GTI with leather which cost little less and faster ( i was goin for CU2 lux manual approx 42k.) 
in addition the service I have received from Honda dealer was a nightmare compare to VW  
I  had 2 honda  before, they were reliable cars with solid resale value.  
from jazz to civic, was going fro civic to euro. but sorry honda, I have to skip this time..
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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					06-06-2010 12:15 PM
				
			
			
				
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							My Euro is only 13 days old,but I have allready done 1200 kilometers. 
 
It was a April 16 build,but very silent...besides a small rattle coming from the left front door ??? which will be dealt with tomorrow at its first service. 
 
I have moved over from VW ,after having had 4. 
 
Hope my Euro will be as good as my 3 year old Jetta which was written off in the hail. 
 
Toniche,I just did not want to deal with arrogant VW dealers anymore,after lots of squeeks,rattles,vibrations,and other quality related annoying niggles over the years.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
		 
		
		
	
 
	
	
 
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
			
				 
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