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					14-11-2010 11:33 AM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  Jibz
					 
				 
				I've seen graphs of cars with gains of that much that had IHE and adding a Kpro. 
A friend with IHE  + k100 was at 160kw. He recently got changed the BC spec 3 to a fujitsubo and 2 years later a with dirty pod and almost dead spark plugs, it's making 140+kw so needs a retune. 
 
Now, regardless of the dyno outputs etc, the only differences between our cars were his toda headers and the k100 and his car pulled a LOT harder than mine (we switched cars too). As a reference, my EP3 is equal to, if not faster than the 4-5 other EP3s I've dragged with so my car can be said to be healthy. So for me at least, I see value in going kpro. Now if my car transforms after getting the header and the majority of the gain is from that, then I may reconsider. But from my experiences, the ECU accounts for alot! 
			
		 
	 
 Yeah that's kind'a what I'll do 
 
If I get 137kw with just I/H/E I won't bother doing ECU till I get bored and turbo
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
				
                                       
                                 
				
		        		161.4KW ATW Tuned By TODA 
EG5 JDM B16A SiR-II TURBO 
 
13.28@106.6mph 2.117 60ft On RE001 
   
				
                                        
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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					14-11-2010 12:13 PM
				
			
			
				
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					14-11-2010 12:18 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  egads
					 
				 
				
			
		 
	 
 Yup  
 
That's exactly what I'm expecting  
 
I use Adrians dyno
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
				
                                       
                                 
				
		        		161.4KW ATW Tuned By TODA 
EG5 JDM B16A SiR-II TURBO 
 
13.28@106.6mph 2.117 60ft On RE001 
   
				
                                        
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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					14-11-2010 01:18 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  Jibz
					 
				 
				awesome awesome! I think you'd really need a Kpro next to really bring out the potential in all those items. Probably gain ~20KW more out of whatever you get with all those mods in. 
			
		 
	 
 K-Pro, Cams and a few other goodies are next on the cards. 
 
	
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by  Lukezen27
					 
				 
				Here's the problem I have with CIVIC's number... not saying there not true! 
 
Guys with Cams I/H/E and kpro are only making 140-150 max and alot are round the 140 mark 
 
So for the extra huge cash outlay with added cams and ECU and not seem much more on top??? 
			
		 
	 
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					  Originally Posted by  Jibz
					 
				 
				TO ANYONE ROCKING AFTERMARKET HEADERS: please post dyno sheets if you have before and after dyno's for headers OR your general experience with upgrading the stock headers. 
			
		 
	 
  and I never said the figures were 100% acurate either, with results coming off the same dyno here in Newcastle. Now as we know every Dyno is different, which is why 2 days later at a car show I dynod with 10hp less. Now if I were to dyno at Toda or any other place in Sydney I am sure I would get different readings again. 
 
My aim is to have 160 - 180kw out of this motor, which will be very achievable with the setup I am going to run.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
				
                                       
                                 
				
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					14-11-2010 02:01 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  c1v1c
					 
				 
				K-Pro, Cams and a few other goodies are next on the cards. 
 
 
  
Luke, I only did what was asked  and I never said the figures were 100% acurate either, with results coming off the same dyno here in Newcastle. Now as we know every Dyno is different, which is why 2 days later at a car show I dynod with 10hp less. Now if I were to dyno at Toda or any other place in Sydney I am sure I would get different readings again. 
 
My aim is to have 160 - 180kw out of this motor, which will be very achievable with the setup I am going to run. 
			
		 
	 
 Na not picking on you man.. I know it will only be due to different dyno read-outs but I do believe Adrians is one of the close's round on real numbers.. 
 
I'd love hit'n 160 NA and I might not even boost of I get those numbers
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
				
                                       
                                 
				
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					14-11-2010 10:58 PM
				
			
			
				
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							whats the gains like with a toda exhaust??
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
				
                                       
                                 
				
		        		SPAM|WERKS got you covered with a johnoroll  
				
                                        
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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					15-11-2010 09:35 AM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  egads
					 
				 
				
			
		 
	 
 does Toda have anymore Dyno Days coming up? wouldn't mind seeing what the stock EP3 can do.. it'll help me monitor if any mods i do make any difference..
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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					17-11-2010 02:01 PM
				
			
			
				
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							Hey guys, Ive been a little worried about my vtec recently, it seems to cut in at about 6.5k rpm not the 5850 its supposed too, i put more oil in there, so oil isnt an issue, it normally would worry me but when i shift up, im nbot straight into vtec, i have to wait 1sec or so for vtec to re-kickin, any ideas why?
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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					17-11-2010 02:10 PM
				
			
			
				
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							stock ECU?  i thought the vtec point is around 6200.  have your car been warmed up?    
  
when you shift up, what is the rev drops to?  if below the vtec point then u'll need to wait for the rev to go up first.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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					17-11-2010 02:14 PM
				
			
			
				
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							yea stock ecu, only diff on car is engine mounts and intake, oh ok, sorry i thought i read it was 5850rpm, i only hear the cross over at about 6.4-6.5 im not 100% sure about the revs dropping, ill check more, but they're generally quick shifts expecially from 1st - 2nd
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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					17-11-2010 02:27 PM
				
			
			
				
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							funny...mine kicks in at about 5850rpm lol, but then...it is at the mechanic getting checked out due to engine warning light. lol
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
				
                                       
                                 
				
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					17-11-2010 02:36 PM
				
			
			
				
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							hmmmm, need to find the figure from a manual then or something, i really want to take mine to a mechanic but there are no decent ones close enough for me to drop in and go to work lol, anyone know any good mechanics in brisbane? ie, relativly close to a train station lol
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
		 
		
		
	
 
	
	
 
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
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