cu2 mods

[furythree]

I bought an Eibach spring, and based on many people I talk to they advice me to use coilover so I didn't even dare to put the spring on and now I am in process of buying coilover n need to sell my spring.

So I think I wouldn't be the right person to answer your question as I wouldn't go that way.

gargh are you for real?

what basis did they say use coilover over springs?

are coilovers 3x better than springs? cause they cost that much more. remember i only just want to lower the car, not improve performance or anything (or lower it either of course)

gargh, aud up again, gotta buy by tommorrow!

[TurBIce]

Man. I still have not received any reply emails after I placed the order.
All I've got is the standard order received. But non of the other emails I got on the weekend before I paid.
I also paid for express. Let's hope they haven't started their holidays early.

Doesn't say anything via email or onthe site ~

[chunsa]

Things to consider when you lower your car:

If you get only springs you may need to replace your shocks down the track. Getting springs lowers your car and wears out your shocks a bit quicker than stock since they aren't matched to each other - at a later stage you may need to buy new shocks which are $1000? (for KONI yellows for the CL9 back then when I had them with eibachs). You get limited damper and height adjustability with these shocks.

Coilovers on the other hand are sort of like combined springs and shocks and are matched to each other. They have more adjustability (better height and damper adjustability) and that's why they cost that bit more.

Also you have to consider when you lower, the camber gets increased = more tyre wear! Not sure if there are camber kits available but something to note as well. (I remember ingalls made CL9 kits not sure on CU2 as I haven't looked into lower the car).

Another thing to consider when you lower your car is how it affects your HIDs as well as you have the self adjusting lights (don't have that on the standard model). Would it alter how the system behaves etc

IMO just springs for you is fine since it's basically just looks - no need to spend so much more on things you don't need. Do note though you will need to consider replacing the shocks at a later stage. When I had my CL9 I didn't need to replace my shocks for quite a while (think over 20,000 kms and still it was fine). I only just added in KONI yellows because I wanted to lower the car a bit more since these shocks come with 3 perches to either lower a bit more or raise the car.

Cost wise it's only a few hundred $$ cheaper for springs and shocks vs coilovers. Up to you to decide what your requirements are and budget is. You can follow other people and say do once do it well with getting coilovers but I just feel it's a bit of a waste unless you find a good good bargain. I personally wouldn't be tracking the car and with the way I drive moderately springs and shocks would be enough - just for the looks and not for the handling.

[furythree]

Things to consider when you lower your car:

If you get only springs you may need to replace your shocks down the track. Getting springs lowers your car and wears out your shocks a bit quicker than stock since they aren't matched to each other - at a later stage you may need to buy new shocks which are $1000? (for KONI yellows for the CL9 back then when I had them with eibachs). You get limited damper and height adjustability with these shocks.

Coilovers on the other hand are sort of like combined springs and shocks and are matched to each other. They have more adjustability (better height and damper adjustability) and that's why they cost that bit more.

Also you have to consider when you lower, the camber gets increased = more tyre wear! Not sure if there are camber kits available but something to note as well. (I remember ingalls made CL9 kits not sure on CU2 as I haven't looked into lower the car).

Another thing to consider when you lower your car is how it affects your HIDs as well as you have the self adjusting lights (don't have that on the standard model). Would it alter how the system behaves etc

IMO just springs for you is fine since it's basically just looks - no need to spend so much more on things you don't need. Do note though you will need to consider replacing the shocks at a later stage. When I had my CL9 I didn't need to replace my shocks for quite a while (think over 20,000 kms and still it was fine). I only just added in KONI yellows because I wanted to lower the car a bit more since these shocks come with 3 perches to either lower a bit more or raise the car.

Cost wise it's only a few hundred $$ cheaper for springs and shocks vs coilovers. Up to you to decide what your requirements are and budget is. You can follow other people and say do once do it well with getting coilovers but I just feel it's a bit of a waste unless you find a good good bargain. I personally wouldn't be tracking the car and with the way I drive moderately springs and shocks would be enough - just for the looks and not for the handling.

thanks that was helpful

in regards to the camber kits. what are they for? will i need one? cause i thought u just get a wheel alignment and thats it.


btw tonymulia, how much are u selling the eibachs for? if theyre cheap i might as well get them off u than going thru a US seller for teins (say approx $300 or less and u got a deal :P) pm me

[TurBIce]

Got a reply

[furythree]

aud is going nuts today! so definitely buying tongith at midnight when paypal updates their exchange rate

tonymulia, if u cud get back to me regarding ur eibachs by tonight, that wud be great. dont wanna gamble on the exchange rate lol

[chunsa]

Camber is how much the wheels point inwards or outwards. If you stand at the rear of the car and look at your wheels you can see the bottom of the wheel slightly pointing out. Think of those "flush" car looks. Notice the wheels bending outwards?

e.g.


When you lower the Accord Euro the camber will become more negative meaning the bottom of the wheels will point out a bit more (not as exaggerated as the pic though). Getting the camber kit helps the person doing the wheel alignment to adjust your car to within specs (since they can't adjust the camber without it). The camber kit will help reduce excessive wear of the inner tyres but if you're not concerned just rotate your wheels regularly and wheel alignment.

[furythree]

Camber is how much the wheels point inwards or outwards. If you stand at the rear of the car and look at your wheels you can see the bottom of the wheel slightly pointing out. Think of those "flush" car looks. Notice the wheels bending outwards?

e.g.


When you lower the Accord Euro the camber will become more negative meaning the bottom of the wheels will point out a bit more (not as exaggerated as the pic though). Getting the camber kit helps the person doing the wheel alignment to adjust your car to within specs (since they can't adjust the camber without it). The camber kit will help reduce excessive wear of the inner tyres but if you're not concerned just rotate your wheels regularly and wheel alignment.

can u get wheel alignment to adjust negative camber without camber kit? cause they are expensive :S
are there any other dangers besides tyre wear on the inside? cause you can like swap the left and right rear tyres to get even wear on both sides. then swap with the fronts to get wear on all 4 tyres.
and i heard we only have negative camber on rear tyres, so since we are FWD, it shudnt be as intense right?

[chunsa]

I think with the wheel alignment they can only adjust it only by a tiny bit and with the kit they can adjust more.

Rotating the tyres should increase the life of the tyres if you keep at it! I think the dangers are just tyre wear with minimal handling differences with that amount of lowering the car.
We don't have negative camber on the rear because it's FWD, it's because Honda has tuned our cars like that for increased handling! The amount of negative camber from lowering a little bit shouldn't be that "intense" but just pointing it out so you know now than find out later.

[furythree]

i see, springs should be fine then

i dont get what u mean by honda has tuned our cars like that for increased handling.
tuned our cars like what?

the other guys have posted that its a negative camber in the REAR tyres

[tonymulia]

Yes, you need to buy camber kit to fix the negative camber and the kit is not cheap. From my memory it cot around US$400 from heeltoe.

Yup, I bought the spring from someone in ebay which he gave me a purchase invoice of the spring for the warranty purposes. I think he bought it in Melbourne for around $600 (if I am not mistaken). According to him, he only used the spring for 4000km and he decided to go for coilover.

Now it is sitting in my garage doing nothing . If you are interested, just pm me as I believe I don't have right to sell any items in this forum yet

FYI: The springs are in good condition (they are in original eibach box) but I didn't know how it feels with the spring on as I never even bother to waste the money on installing them as I am planning to get coilover. If needed, I can take picture of all the spring for anyone who is interested (first in best dress).

[TurBIce]

wow. interesting reads,
learning alot these few pages.

my coil overs are arriving at their shop today. then they posting it out priority. 1-3 days. hope its tomorrow or friday
yay