Quality niggles with new Euro

[Fredoops]

Sue Honda Aust for loss of night sleeps, inconvenience (having to go back many times to service), disturbance to sanity, etc etc.... and ask for $100k compensation. then buy an IS350 F-Sport. Fixed

Then your mates decides to screw with you by replacing lexus badge with toyotas... just for lols

Wow
My friend is a racer and has his own workshop with his dad, and a while back he did some tests on different fuels. I can't remember all the results but i know BP was at the top and Caltex near the bottom. At the moment i use caltex 95 or 98, but after he told me the results and hearing your story i might make the switch.

As for Accord Euros, my Dad's is approaching a year old and it hasn't had any problems at all. I first thought it had a speaker problem but it turned out that the input volume on my ipod was too high for the car's stereo so we had to turn down the ipod and turn up the stereo, and it was all good.

As far as I remember Caltex Vortex and BP Ultimate are out of the same refinery in Sydney.
BP Ultimate has got more "stuff" added to it which is why it's good/better.

I think the current packing order is:
BP Ultimate > Caltex Vortex > Shell V-power

Funnily enough, shell V-power is refined overseas (from New Zealand or Singapore can't remember which)... so it's not exactly 'fresh' when it arrives, and I think the octane rating deteriorates over time...

I want the 100 Ron Optimax back tho.

[Irving]

Since shipping my CU2 to the UK, I have been using Shell V - Power and BP Ultimate which is rated at minimum 97 Octane. The BP Ultimate is superior IMO and there is NO PCS.
Unlike Ozzie V-Power, the stuff here seems a bit better and the car is less prone to PCS (invoking PCS is quite difficult). My choice is BP Ultimate as there seems to be an added advantage in fuel economy.

[Fredoops]

Since shipping my CU2 to the UK, I have been using Shell V - Power and BP Ultimate which is rated at minimum 97 Octane. The BP Ultimate is superior IMO and there is NO PCS.
Unlike Ozzie V-Power, the stuff here seems a bit better and the car is less prone to PCS (invoking PCS is quite difficult). My choice is BP Ultimate as there seems to be an added advantage in fuel economy.

Well the UK V-power is made locally... ours is like weeks old by the time it gets here... go figure

I am interested to know if the harsher cleaning addictive in the BP Ultimate has any negative effect on engine oil...

PS: You SHIPPED a CU2 from here to UK?!? Why don't you just get a 2.2 turbo diesel lol

[Irving]

Shell V-Power in Sydney was pretty crappy to say the least. Caltex was much better and BP ultimate holds together with better economy (atleast in a pinging CU2). I discussed this several times in the past....
The additives in BP Ultimate has a cumulative effect on the engine and is supposed to improve combustion thus improving fuel efficiency. That's what I remember about it. Can look it up again if you wish.

Shipped the CU2 because they cost a bloody fortune over here LOL....Maybe I will trade it in for a BMW 5 Series LOL or a three year old Merc S Class....

[Fredoops]

Shell V-Power in Sydney was pretty crappy to say the least. Caltex was much better and BP ultimate holds together with better economy (atleast in a pinging CU2). I discussed this several times in the past....
The additives in BP Ultimate has a cumulative effect on the engine and is supposed to improve combustion thus improving fuel efficiency. That's what I remember about it. Can look it up again if you wish.

Shipped the CU2 because they cost a bloody fortune over here LOL....Maybe I will trade it in for a BMW 5 Series LOL or a three year old Merc S Class....

VW PHAETON!!!! BEST CAR EVER MADE! (lol)

[praja6]

PS: You SHIPPED a CU2 from here to UK?!? Why don't you just get a 2.2 turbo diesel lol[/QUOTE]

I do believe european cars such as BMW or Merc are same price or just slightly higher than our Euro model. If you check BMW uk website, you can get a 5 series BMW for around 35k uk pounds(here the basic 5series is 95k aus$), where the japanese made our Honda accord (which is euro here) cost 31k pounds..

[Fredoops]

I do believe european cars such as BMW or Merc are same price or just slightly higher than our Euro model. If you check BMW uk website, you can get a 5 series BMW for around 35k uk pounds(here the basic 5series is 95k aus$), where the japanese made our Honda accord (which is euro here) cost 31k pounds..

Honda always has been a bit more executive/upmarket than other Japanses brands tho... the euro accord is in the executive market, competing with A4's and C5's etc. Our accord Euro is their top spec, because we got the 2.4 liter, and europe got 2.0 liter as standard

Europe has a WAYYYYYY more robust and competitive 'non-dealer' sales network, car brokers etc, just pick up a UK version of Top gear magazine and flip to the advertisement section.

Unlike Australia (God bless the EU) car dealer dont just have to compete with ther car deals in your city/state. but car dealers from OTHER EU member countries as well. hence they are much more willing to bargain.

Consider this:
HONDA ACCORD 2.4 i-VTEC EX 4dr Auto - £24,501(AU$37,709) drive away, £2,614 off RRP
*Band K emissions, you'd be effing MAD to buy it tho, gonna cost arm/leg to run.
BMW 3 SERIES 320i M Sport 4dr Step Auto - £24,010 (AU$35,844) drive away, £5,320 off RRP
*Band G emissions, better than above

Now you know why there is More BMW 3's than god damn Modeos in UK lol

[Irving]

If you also consider the second hand car market in the UK, European cars such as BMW, Mercedes etc are going at bargain basement prices compared to Hondas.

When comparing European cars to Jap cars you also need to consider the following:
Japanese Yen:GBP and Euro:GBP and ofcourse how strong the A$ is atm

[antony]

Irving,I did not realise you moved to the UK.

I beleive the Accord,our Euro,has a brilliant reputation there,and has been rated as the most reliable car for a few years now.

Do you see many Accords ???

I beleive that VW is also massive in the UK ???

[Fredoops]

Irving,I did not realise you moved to the UK.

I beleive the Accord,our Euro,has a brilliant reputation there,and has been rated as the most reliable car for a few years now.

Do you see many Accords ???

I beleive that VW is also massive in the UK ???

Nah thats Skoda, they've been holding that title for like 3 years lol

[Irving]

I have only seen a few CU2s on the roads. there is only one (demonstrator) at the local dealer, so, if you want one, it will have to be ordered.... Loads of Civics though.

reputation is pretty strong here with secondhand prices holding up much better than luxury German cars....

[antony]

Nah thats Skoda, they've been holding that title for like 3 years lol

No ,Which ? and What car magazines rate the Accord as tops,and Honda as a manufacturer rates very highly in general in the UK.

The Skoda is basically a poor VW...