Weighing up pros and cons: AUDM DC2r/DC5r versus AUDM S15 200sx

[DC28OY]

i sat down reading this thread from front to back while at work lol ... its been a really good read coz the comparisons have been great. but yea i guess im still into the type r phase so yea id go for the dc2, hopefully get one by the end of the year, shud be a good upgrade from my vti-r hehe

[infurNOS]

50/50 --- schmifty/mifty my arse --- DC2 isnt a 50/50 balanced car, its so obvious the engine + drivetrain is at the front and theres hardly any weight at the back. ROFL!!!

its left to right side balanced not front to rear noob....

[asshat]

The main issue I have with the DC5R is that there aren't any around up for sale in Victoria that are:

1) Decent KMs
2) Stock
3) No VAFC attached

oh and most of the ads are untruthfully stating "female owner"...which is bullshit. Good luck though.

[Indie]

I wanted a Silvia, but 'settled' for a Teg. More generously, I compromised with a Teg. I'd take the Silvia at the best of times, but if it's at all wet, I'd much rather be in the Teg. Plus, it's better on fuel, more reliable, and just a better all-round daily. Silvias are the better track car, better to mod, and RWD; Tegs, on the other hand, are probably the better daily drivers.

I'd still take the Silvia, given the choice. S13, my first love. Sigh.

[michaelz]

thread dig!

but if it's at all wet, I'd much rather be in the Teg. Plus, it's better on fuel, more reliable, and just a better all-round daily. Silvias are the better track car, better to mod, and RWD; Tegs, on the other hand, are probably the better daily drivers.

Let's say you're going a bit fast in the wet. If you understeer in the RWD car, you could probably get away with it with a bit of throttle and opposite lock. FWD you're more likely to just go straight into that tree or telephone pole. Personally, I'll take the RWD car in the wet. It's heaps of fun. Also the Type R (and I hear tegs in general) the turning circle is terrible. Every U turn is a 3 point turn so for daily duties, if you keep it stock the S15 is no worse in terms of reliability and probably easier to live with.

[tiah313]

u can only fit a chiwawas in s15 rear seat

[rhys.l]

thread dig!



Let's say you're going a bit fast in the wet. If you understeer in the RWD car, you could probably get away with it with a bit of throttle and opposite lock. FWD you're more likely to just go straight into that tree or telephone pole. Personally, I'll take the RWD car in the wet. It's heaps of fun. Also the Type R (and I hear tegs in general) the turning circle is terrible. Every U turn is a 3 point turn so for daily duties, if you keep it stock the S15 is no worse in terms of reliability and probably easier to live with.

I've owned both an s15 and a dc2r. The most likely scenario for an s15 in the wet is oversteer. Which can be difficult to control and avoid with the skinny standard tyres and the power most of them have these days. I would much rather the understeer offered by the integra, which I gather could be counter-acted by some lift off oversteer by a driver that knows what they are doing.

Moving off that, I think the s15 is the better daily driver (which has already been said). Suspension is more compliant, it's quieter, more responsive and overall baring the 'issues' in the wet, easier to live with. With the dc2r imo you get a nicer gearshift, a much nicer, less coarse sounding (although peaky) engine and nicer seats and steering wheel. As a drivers car, I think the dc2r is easier to drive fast stock, but in the end is still a fwd. You get negative feedback through the wheel (tugging etc) you just don't get in a rwd and on the limit it still understeers (at least with the stock setup).

I currently own the dc2r and wouldn't say one is 'better' than the other, they are just different

[EVLGTR]

its left to right side balanced not front to rear noob....

When ppl say 50/50 they usually meant front/rear. Every car is virtually 50/50 left and right...noob, lol

[Bludger]

I wanted a Silvia, but 'settled' for a Teg. More generously, I compromised with a Teg. I'd take the Silvia at the best of times, but if it's at all wet, I'd much rather be in the Teg. Plus, it's better on fuel, more reliable, and just a better all-round daily. Silvias are the better track car, better to mod, and RWD; Tegs, on the other hand, are probably the better daily drivers.

I'd still take the Silvia, given the choice. S13, my first love. Sigh.

You are entitled to your opinion
But i think its rubbish.

u can only fit a chiwawas in s15 rear seat

The dog???

You mean chihuahua

When ppl say 50/50 they usually meant front/rear. Every car is virtually 50/50 left and right...noob, lol

EVLGTR 1 - infurNOS 0

[curtis265]

Whoa some serious BS happening here..

whoever said any type R is for daily? that's the funniest thing i've heard all day!

and 50/50 left/right balance... I'd be worried if it wasn't

[rhys.l]

Whoa some serious BS happening here..

whoever said any type R is for daily? that's the funniest thing i've heard all day!

and 50/50 left/right balance... I'd be worried if it wasn't

Must be an ordinary day, can only be uphill from here Alot of people can't afford to own and run two cars (myself included), and in this case where we are talking about two very good sports cars which are hard to separate otherwise, the liveability may become an important and even deciding factor.

[curtis265]

sorry, i meant great for daily, didn't mean that you hadto own 2 cars lol