Weighing up pros and cons: AUDM DC2r/DC5r versus AUDM S15 200sx

[jks24]

DC2R is fine as a daily, the suspension really is not that stiff and alot of reviews go on about the level of noise because the car has no sound deadening...this is all bs unless you are comparing it to something like a Euro which is a totally different class of car. I think someone also said something about recaros being bad for a daily car as they are hard to get in and out of? Seriously it really is not that difficult unless you are a "big" kind of person. Everyone who gets in my car gets shown the right way to get in and out of the recaros anyways, if they dont like it they can always walk

I have pro c's in my car, I consider this "harsh" suspension but hey I have sacrificed comfort for handling. The only time it slightly annoys me is when I'm driving for a couple of hours straight. Other than that it does not bother me tbh

[Mikecivic78]

Agreed Josh. My point before was that a stock s15 makes a softer daily, some dudes seemed to have missed that.

IMO DC2R suspension is great. Not too extreme and good ride height for stock. We're both slim guys so Recaros aren't an issue, but can be for corpulent folks.

Had a drive in Beeza's car with bc coils and actually it was fairly comfy. He is running 15s and lower tyre pressure and lives in an area with nice smooth roads. DC2R suspension is fine around brissy's crap b roads, but coilovers I can at times be a bit rough.

Actually I've noticed that ITR rear swaybar can make the rear a bit crashy though, maybe more so than firm shockies and springs. Still, the handling makes up for it so I can live with the missus' whining lol.

[Vvvtec]

Josh your car is MUCH comfier than I was expecting. And the Recaros are seriously awesome.

[CRXDEL501]

Having an em1 doesn't allow me to compare other cars?

Why are u still posting?

Be gone.

Lol ok mate.

[CRXDEL501]

Josh your car is MUCH comfier than I was expecting. And the Recaros are seriously awesome.

Yeah who would have thought... And we have people crying about stock suspension. Pfft

I want a ride Josh!!

[Zinyo]

in a nutshell..all cars sold to the public is fine for daily driving, given that they are factory standard and that the person who bought the car knows exactly what the hell they are getting themselves into. Very few cars are exempt but the cars mentioned by op are definately fine for daily. Seriously guys, if u want comfy dont buy a jap 'sports' car or a sports car for that matter.

[Mikecivic78]

Seriously, I'd be happy with all three cars. (and suspension wise too- my comments have been totally misinterpreted.)

They are all performance bargains and all in the sub $18K mark. GC8 is another competitor, and a well worthy challenger, even though it's not a coupe.

[Bludger]

I think someone also said something about recaros being bad for a daily car as they are hard to get in and out of?

Yeah, I was the one that said something similar to that.......

dc2r if you get in and out of then properly (without ****ing up the recaro bolster) it is a hard task

I think it's not that hard to get in and out of, but if you want to enter and exit properly without damaging the bolsters then it does take a bit more effort than usual.

What I do is (getting into the drivers seat) place my right arm on the A pillar whilst putting my left leg in first. I then slide myself in, lifting my whole body and thigh up over the bolster, body weight supported by my right arm on the A pillar.
Getting out I put my right hand on the side running board/scuff plate. (the long black plastic thing above the side skirt) Twisting my body to the right, pushing myself up with the right arm. Up and over the bolster.

Seriously the dc2r is not a bad daily car, any stock unmodified car is ok for daily as someone said. But we are here to nit pick and compare the 3 with each other.

[jks24]

I think it's not that hard to get in and out of, but if you want to enter and exit properly without damaging the bolsters then it does take a bit more effort than usual.

What I do is (getting into the drivers seat) place my right arm on the A pillar whilst putting my left leg in first. I then slide myself in, lifting my whole body and thigh up over the bolster, body weight supported by my right arm on the A pillar.
Getting out I put my right hand on the side running board/scuff plate. (the long black plastic thing above the side skirt) Twisting my body to the right, pushing myself up with the right arm. Up and over the bolster.

Seriously the dc2r is not a bad daily car, any stock unmodified car is ok for daily as someone said. But we are here to nit pick and compare the 3 with each other.

exactly the same as what I do to get in and out of my car and the bolsters on mine have not been damaged in anyway since I got the seats (no fat chicks)......it really is a fine art hey Also the factory arm rest in the EM1 comes in handy when climbing out of the car and I believe the low rails make it easier also particularly when getting out of the seat.

My drivers side door locking mechanism has been broken though for a few weeks now so I have had to perfect climbing in the passengers side and then climbing out of the seat over the handbrake and into the drivers seat lol.

Offtopic but back when I was in the market for a DC2R I came across a guy who used to iron his recaros...they were mint nice yellow ones

Another thing I hate is how the seatbelt wears the suede on the top of the seat

[jks24]

Josh your car is MUCH comfier than I was expecting. And the Recaros are seriously awesome.

haha atm the dampner is only on like 6....it goes to 12 lol. If I drive over a manhole/rough bit of road it makes my CD jump sometimes

All worth it though didnt you say my car looks like its glued to the road haha

[Vvvtec]

haha atm the dampner is only on like 6....it goes to 12 lol. If I drive over a manhole/rough bit of road it makes my CD jump sometimes

All worth it though didnt you say my car looks like its glued to the road haha

Haha sure did man! From behind, when you turn into a corner with some speed it looks like your car is on rails