94 Vti-R running cool (not in a good way)

[charliebrown]

I think the engine is actually warming up, just the gauge thing is off. I started the engine and popped the hood, and feeling to see if engine was staying cold. After a few minutes, it was quite warm. (but im not sure how warm its actually supposed to be to compare)

Mechanic said he can do it all including parts for $30, but the last integra he changed a thermostat for because it had the same problem, ended up fcking up a while after. Cant recall exactly what he said, but it was something because of the old age of the car, the diameter of the hole where you change the thermo got smaller and so on i cant remember.

I will do the 2 full tanks like he said and record the L/100km, and will see what he says. He acknowledges that it's eating more fuel than it should, but reluctant to change it cos of past experiences with tegs fckin up after changing.

[androo]

I think the engine is actually warming up, just the gauge thing is off. I started the engine and popped the hood, and feeling to see if engine was staying cold. After a few minutes, it was quite warm. (but im not sure how warm its actually supposed to be to compare)

Ok, you can't just feel your rocker cover to tell that the engine is at optimal temperature. Of course it will be warm........................ Just not warm enough...

Mechanic said he can do it all including parts for $30, but the last integra he changed a thermostat for because it had the same problem, ended up fcking up a while after.

Again, get a new mechanic.............. I can't believe he fked up a thermostat change...

Another thing, while OEM Honda thermostats are more expensive, they stay open when they fail (while aftermarket ones stay closed, which will cause your car to overheat once they fail). Also, look at the age of your car - The OEM thermostat has just died, whereas an aftermarket one typically lasts 3-4 years.

If you're scared of your mechanic screwing it up, call around to different Hondas and ask for a quote to get it changed. I'm sure it will be less than $150-200 MAX and you have peace of mind... I know I would...

BTW, if your mechanic can BUY the thermostat and charge you only $30 INCLUDING parts and labour, what do you think the quality of the thermostat + labour will be????????? I hope he's just really nice....

[Bludger]

not only that, but he is scared it'll **** up aftyer changing?

If he was competant, he would have no hesitation and could guarantee it won't **** up.

[charliebrown]

The thermo would be OEM Honda, mechanic's have discounts or some shit. He said might have to get a gasket, but that's only like $5. No charge for labour as he's close and been servicing my family's vehicles for decades. He's a straight forward guy, not after money and trustworthy. And not tryin to have a go at you guys, but he would have much more experience (being a RETIRED mechanic working for 30-40 years) than you, so i find it hard to just ignore what he says as tegs have rolled in at his door a million times and changing thermo has been an issue afterwards for many.

[androo]

................................. Done trying to help you... You're an idiot......... Go... Continue running your car like shit...

Peace out! /

[Shraka]

Charliebrown: 12L/100??! That's HORRIBLE! My VTi-R (1994, 150K) gets 10L/100km or better with quick driving and all suburban. If I do a long trip for half the tank I get about 7.7L/100km.

Also, why did you come in here asking for our help then tell us off when we give it? I'll second what others have said: Your mechanic is a nutcase - he should be quite alarmed that your car is running cold, especially if you ever drive it spiritedly. The fix should be easy, and what other problems could it possible cause? I like the attitude towards maintenance though "Oh my brake pads are worn out, but I'm not gonna fix it because I heard it can cause other problems". Do you REALLY think leaving the engine running cold would cause LESS problems than a fix?

P.S. Honda did mine five years and 70,000kms ago, and it's been absolutely fine ever since. Get it done - it's not expensive. And if it's your gauge, you should get that fixed too. You really wanna know when your car is overheating.

[charliebrown]

Just filled up again. Got 10.1L/100km granny driving in suburban. It's running slightly less 'cold', as in it's moving off to about 1/4 to 1/3 of the gauge after 10-15 minutes. Could it just be that the dealer didn't drive the car for a while or something, and that it needed to do a few runs before it ran properly again? And could you guys tell me if starting the engine to move the car in/out of the driveway uses a lot of petrol? My parents move my car like 10 times a day... not sure if that contributes to the poor economy.

[Bludger]

Just filled up again. Got 10.1L/100km granny driving in suburban. It's running slightly less 'cold', as in it's moving off to about 1/4 to 1/3 of the gauge after 10-15 minutes. Could it just be that the dealer didn't drive the car for a while or something, and that it needed to do a few runs before it ran properly again? And could you guys tell me if starting the engine to move the car in/out of the driveway uses a lot of petrol? My parents move my car like 10 times a day... not sure if that contributes to the poor economy.

You're an idiot.
You can't tell the exact temperature from reading the stock temperature guage.
It's very inaccurate and there as a guide only. 1/4 or 1/3 of the guage doesn't mean shit..
You can't tell if its running "slightly less cold" Stop secongd guessing.

Either go change the thermostat and come back with your results or just leave it and stop asking mundane repetitive questions & wasting our time.

Yes, repeated start stop when cold doesn't help fuel consumption.

[Vvvtec]

Just filled up again. Got 10.1L/100km granny driving in suburban. It's running slightly less 'cold', as in it's moving off to about 1/4 to 1/3 of the gauge after 10-15 minutes. Could it just be that the dealer didn't drive the car for a while or something, and that it needed to do a few runs before it ran properly again? And could you guys tell me if starting the engine to move the car in/out of the driveway uses a lot of petrol? My parents move my car like 10 times a day... not sure if that contributes to the poor economy.

You seem to complain alot about your car. Maybe try not driving for a while, start walking places. Perhaps getting some fresh air will help clear your head, and you'll use less fuel in your car.

Oh, and go to a different mechanic.

[Mikecivic78]

Charlie brown harden the **** up! Change that Thermostat post-haste. Nothing will go wrong.

[EVLGTR]

....start walking places. Perhaps getting some fresh air will help clear your head

LMAO! i like that advice

[Super-DA9]

thermostat is easy as pie to change, and nothing bad can happen from changing it. plus it's not even that expensive, Tridon make aftermarket ones you can pick them up from supercheap.