ORC Heavy Duty clutch + Lightened Flywheel on DC5R - Easy to live with?

[bennjamin]

just some experience - i have a very light flywheel in my EP3 (3.8kg) and this is what goes.
1. The car looses "feel" - it feels looser and alittle doughy in normal driving. You may be disappointed if you just drive your car in traffic everyday - the car will feel slower.
2. The car has only a tiny bit more acceleration.
3. Where this makes a difference tho - is on a race track or thru a nice drive in the twisities. The engine feels to rev quicker inbetween shifts (up or down shifting) and is easier to hold in a gear at speed. It basically makes every gear rev faster and more response.

[Nuci]

just some experience - i have a very light flywheel in my EP3 (3.8kg) and this is what goes.
1. The car looses "feel" - it feels looser and alittle doughy in normal driving. You may be disappointed if you just drive your car in traffic everyday - the car will feel slower.
2. The car has only a tiny bit more acceleration.
3. Where this makes a difference tho - is on a race track or thru a nice drive in the twisities. The engine feels to rev quicker inbetween shifts (up or down shifting) and is easier to hold in a gear at speed. It basically makes every gear rev faster and more response.

How much power is your ep3 making? So are you saying it's worth it for a street car or not? And is the ORC clutch worth the 800 more than say an equivalent exedy one?

[45SET]

Do you ever plan on taking the car to the track?

If you plan to take it to the track all the time, spend more money on a good clutch/flywheel

If you plan to take it to the track once in a blue moon or never, and money isnt an issue, just get a Excedy or Toda Clutch kit (Both run the same Sports Organic Excedy clutch, but both have a different 3.8kg flywheel)

If you plan to take it to the track once in a blue moon or never, and money is an issue, just get a new clutch, and don't worry about the flywheel as you'll find it more annoying then good if you are using it for a daily.

[45SET]

Ok cool thanks for the info. Is a clutch with more than one puck also called a button clutch? That's what I thought they were called (button because they were either on or off).

And did you notice that with a lightened flywheel the car was noticably faster under hard acceleration?

No. Button clutch referse to the material used on the friction pad.

Full faced button clutch is easier to use then say a 3 or 4 puck button clutch. Like I said, you'll get use to it after a couple of days, and it's not going to break your leg to push it down.

I did notice a difference with the lighter flywheel, and there was better acceleration under all conditions. I've never intended to use my car as a daily (As I have another car, and don't drive during the week much), so I don't find it a issue.

[type_AHH]

Slightly off topic but when upgrading clutch and flywheel, do you need to change the bolts that hold your flywheel/clutch together?
A mate reckons changing to stronger (presumably?) flywheel bolts like the ones by ARP?

[45SET]

Use the bolts that come with the kit?

But ask you mate what the advantage of changing the bolts is, or if he is just pulling the info out of his ass.

[bennjamin]

Always used OEM flywheel bolts. Just torque them to spec and in a star configuration...