Can anyone explain this wheel alignment report?

[Mikecivic78]

I did re-install of front sussy, so I'm getting front + rear alignment done @ the same place.

2 things:

1) Wanna confirm that both front and rear toe should be zero on an EK.
2) Anything else I should ask the guy to do?

[Nepolian]

Get it 0 for a neutral feel.

[1590cc]

Yeah set at zero as per factory settings

[Mikecivic78]

Cheers, thanks guys.

[string]

If you want to set it to factory settings, I suggest you read the manual and find the specs for yourself rather than believing people on the internet. (i.e. the factory manual DOES NOT ask for zero toe front and rear)

[charliebrown]

I've got my toe set to 1.1mm front and 4.6mm rear. Factory for my car model specifies between -2 to 2 for front and 2 to 5 for rear.
Before the alignment i was on -6.6 front and 5 rear.

Dunno why the specs don't say 0 if it means less tyre wear... i'd go with factory rather than just asking them to do 0

[Mikecivic78]

If you want to set it to factory settings, I suggest you read the manual and find the specs for yourself rather than believing people on the internet. (i.e. the factory manual DOES NOT ask for zero toe front and rear)

I just went back to the place and got zero toe front and rear. Also just read ur post string. I did not consult a manual, bad thing not to do I suppose.

BTW string, you've told me what the manual DOES NOT ask for, so what DOES it ask for?

Anyone want some rep? If you can post manufacturer's specs it would be good.

Here are the new values:

REAR:

Camber: (left) -2 05' (right) -2 15'
Individual toe: (left) 0.0mm (right) 0.0mm
Total toe: +0mm
Geometric Driving Axis: +0 00'

FRONT:

Camber (left) -1 47' (right) -2 11'
Individual toe: (left) +0.0mm (right) +0.0mm
Total toe: +0.0mm

Good news is there was no invoice for this one, they did it for free, so that was good. Still dunno about their work quality though.

[charliebrown]

Bro the shop should be looking up your factory specs before they begin, it should be included in your report. You shouldn't have to look anything up... you're paying them!

[Mikecivic78]

You have a point charlie brown. Today when I got the new alignment done, they just seemed to follow my lead and put in zero toe. They didn't seem to check anything out on their computer.

[charliebrown]

Reputable workshop? I just asked for "four wheel alignment, set the toe so i get minimal tyre wear". They charged me $60 which is a little more than some other places but you get what you pay for. Ive heard many stories about people going to shit tyre places and their wheel comes out not centered etc

[migoreng]

When you have over 1 degree of neg camber, how should toe be set to even out the tyre wear?

I've checked my 25,000km old Kumho KU31 tyres and they have camber wear. Looks like they'll last 40,000km. My next front>rear rotation is in another 5000km and i'll simply drive until they are worn down to the wear indicators.

I'm only lowered on kings lows (1.5" drop). Should I consider a camber kit?

[Bludger]

Don't quote me, I have no idea, but thinking about it logically, with neg camber, you should add toe "IN" to counteract the imbalance by some degree.

By doing so, the toe in will give you less cornering attributes, negating the -ve camber. whats the point..

Looks might be a good point?