GD3 rear sway bar

**ss-rotel** · 03-07-2011 10:29 PM

pat - the link you posted, that's for a GE, not a GD, won't fit. Whiteline i think, or they did once list a front sway, but that was only really a good upgrade for the "pre-nerf", as logically would increase understear.

stiffening the rear, or softening the front, would have the same effect, to different exstents. the downside i see with softening the front would be too much weight shift during a quick directional change. depending on the track, that wouldn't been that big a deal, but if there's a tight S bend, you'd move too much weight over the outside wheel in the second part of the turn, and understear.

the rear is acutally a torsion beam setup, which has been setup to act something like a rear sway, but not completely. My old Pug 205 had the same setup, but in that car, the beam acts like the spring in the assembly. Adding the sway would still decrease the amount of roll in the rear of the car, increasing the turn in. the reason why this doesn't REALY exsist is the orginial GD jazz's had too stiff a rear end. they already had a tendancy to overstear, and honda "fixed" this after the general consensis was the jazz was a little "unstable" and "twitchy"

they changed bushes and damper rates.

i can vouch for this, i had a 2003 VTi, like a week after the Aust release, which i traded for my current mid 2005 VTiS 2.5 yrs later. the handling is different, with the 2003 having better turn in.

The king springs i have had fitted to the stock shocks are a definate improvment, i'd sat pretty mucht the perfect street upgrade for the $$$. Now i have a bigger exhuast it does bottom up if i'm not careful, but it's not as bad, (or as low), as some of my other cars.

was hoping i could pull a little more understear out without doing anything drastic, (read expensive). i guess i need to start saving fo 1way.

**patsdc2** · 04-07-2011 10:48 AM

I am pretty sure that's for GD, not GE. I can confirm this from whiteline.com.au. Do a search for Honda Jazz and you will see that BHR86Z is for Honda Jazz GD (FIT) 10/02-7/08

**ss-rotel** · 05-07-2011 09:53 AM

ok, i just followed your link and it was for a GE. I've asked the boys @ fulcrum, (admidedly they are useless), and they couldn't give me a part number.

Once it's had it's final tune, i'll go for a real blast, and workout if i REALLY need it. currently thinking, (when i started this thread, i'd only just got it back, after it being off the road for 10 months), i might not need it, and it would be money better spent elsewere.

**patsdc2** · 05-07-2011 01:44 PM

Originally Posted by ss-rotel

ok, i just followed your link and it was for a GE. I've asked the boys @ fulcrum, (admidedly they are useless), and they couldn't give me a part number.

Once it's had it's final tune, i'll go for a real blast, and workout if i REALLY need it. currently thinking, (when i started this thread, i'd only just got it back, after it being off the road for 10 months), i might not need it, and it would be money better spent elsewere.

Part Number is given as BHR86Z. Mine arrived and installed.

**ss-rotel** · 07-07-2011 09:09 PM

awesome, what's it like? did it make much of a difference?

**sPoOnD_** · 08-07-2011 02:52 AM

so would you guys recommend spending that $200+ on a rear sway bar for the GD model?

**ss-rotel** · 08-07-2011 09:28 AM

all things being equal, it's the most cost effective FWD handling mod, espeically if your car tends to understear.

I've had a 2003 VTi and currently own a 2005 VTiS. Both ran/run 15inch mags. The 2003 didn't need suspension mods. it was already a little tail happy, and very easy to get it to drift with lift of overstear. it just didn't ave the guts to keep the drift going for more than say 5m. My pug, with only 66kw did a better job.(thou it weighed in @ 700kg @ that stage.)

i think it was about 2004 they softened the rear, to make the jazz more stable @ the back, but increasing understear, so the car tends to push a little in corners.

So, you can add a rear sway, or change the springs/dampers to 2003 spec. the sway is cheaper. i lowered my 2005 with king springs, which seem like a good fit for the stock shocks, but they are already 170,000km old, so this is really just a stop/gap, (was orginially hoping i was going to get the jazz ready for the FFR Jambooree last yeah... but that didn't happen... hell, i doubt i'll have time to get it ready this year), and orinigally planned to replace them with a coilover setup, but it's low enough, and i dont think it's tooo stiff.

Spring were $250 + fit, i think. they did it and replaced all wheel bearings, and wheel align, cost me $1200. (wheel bearings are like $150 each for the front, and $80 each for the rear)