DC5 v TypeR- Acceleration, not speed.

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i find it amazing how some bloke has said that 12k for a DC5R isn't cheap for that many kms?
LOL... Mines almost at 130,000km and if you think i'd sell it for less then 24k, your f*cking dreaming.

That R is going to be problems for you my friend.
Wouldn't bother and yes i know which Type R your refering to.

I'd buy it, part it and make more on top.
Then if you have enough, buy a clean Type R.

Just saying not hating

Impressive......

It surprises me that even with 6 gears, 6th is not as low as the Base's 5th. Really makes for a bit of a hog when not racing. Ive even watched a few professional japanese racers on youtube who comment on wanting a lower final drive, so its obviously wanted :P

Really my views are:

Base Pros:
- Can use 91 (but will use 95, especially with a reflash)
- Develops Torque sooner
- Cheaper initially
- Cheaper insurance
- Most powerful car ive owned yet, so reguardless should impress me.
- Switches to 12Valve on the freeway, and uses significantly less when cruising

TypeR:
- Recaros
- Significantly more power
- Better body kit\lower
- 'The badge' (yes im one of those people, sorry ><)
- Resale value



If I got the base, i'd be lowering it, and putting a TypeR spoiler on (i love the look) so I have to keep the 'mod costs' in mind too.

Considering whichever one I choose i'll have to fly interstate for; its a shame I cant inspect the vehicles easily.

If the R was a clean example, and 12k, (ive only ever done reflashes before)
Am I right in assuming a Kpro would allow me to tune for lower octane fuel (retard the timing a little), and save a second map for when I want speed\power at the track?

I'm not past admitting i'm still learning some shit here.




EDIT: Yep, turns out the paper didnt lie:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCHUN9WmXxo

Thats exactly what I was looking for.

Base with a kpro tune and minor mods (such as TypeS wheels, it IS a base, read through the comments), vs TypeS with minor mods, and no tune.
basically because the $1k i save on the 'base' would buy me the kpro.

Its obvious in the video the TypeS isnt trying its hardest otherwise it would have caught up quicker IMO, but you can hear the both give it a decent push off the line.

Anyone care to argue with the video?
I dont mean that in a smart arse way, I mean, is there something im missing here?

Thanks for everyones help, been a wonderful discussion thus far

Your comments are irrelevant because your talking about reflashing the ECU on the base model but not talking about doing the same to the DC5R.

You put a Kpro in either car, neck to neck, there will be a marginal difference.
A base model will be forever a base model at the end of the day.
It will always be the watered down DC5R (don't bring the JDM DC5 into this as i will slap you silly )

if you buy a base model, you buy it generally with the intentions to have an A to B car 9 times outta 10. There are a few, yes a few and one is on this forum who have progressed on with base model and are making something out of it and good on him

But if you have the choice and the AMBITION to track your car, a Type R over the Base is always the better way to go because as others have said, better gear box, better mottor, LSD, Recaro's etc

Anyway enough said... won't bother.