RTA Bushings - OEM vs Hardrace

[Bludger]

im looking at replacing the RTAs on my EG8 at the moment - these seem to be my options
OEM and ES would be about the same for durability but ES will be a little stiffer
Hardrace Rubber will be a bit better for durability and a little stiffer again than ES
than Hardrace Spherical Bearing will be a bit stiffer again but have the longest lifetime of them all
the spherical bearing types are alot easier to dial in to center from what i read as well - but they are alot more expensive

OEM > Energy Suspension > Hardrace Rubber > Hardrace Spherical Bearing

and of course, all this knowledge comes from personal experience.

Dfuff, gonna Dfuff

[mocchi]

im looking at replacing the RTAs on my EG8 at the moment - these seem to be my options
OEM and ES would be about the same for durability but ES will be a little stiffer
Hardrace Rubber will be a bit better for durability and a little stiffer again than ES
than Hardrace Spherical Bearing will be a bit stiffer again but have the longest lifetime of them all
the spherical bearing types are alot easier to dial in to center from what i read as well - but they are alot more expensive

OEM > Energy Suspension > Hardrace Rubber > Hardrace Spherical Bearing

Hardrace Spherical Bearing have the longest lifetime of them all
Hardrace Spherical Bearing have the longest lifetime of them all
Hardrace Spherical Bearing have the longest lifetime of them all
Hardrace Spherical Bearing have the longest lifetime of them all
Hardrace Spherical Bearing have the longest lifetime of them all
Hardrace Spherical Bearing have the longest lifetime of them all
Hardrace Spherical Bearing have the longest lifetime of them all
Hardrace Spherical Bearing have the longest lifetime of them all
Hardrace Spherical Bearing have the longest lifetime of them all
Hardrace Spherical Bearing have the longest lifetime of them all
Hardrace Spherical Bearing have the longest lifetime of them all
Hardrace Spherical Bearing have the longest lifetime of them all
Hardrace Spherical Bearing have the longest lifetime of them all
Hardrace Spherical Bearing have the longest lifetime of them all
Hardrace Spherical Bearing have the longest lifetime of them all
Hardrace Spherical Bearing have the longest lifetime of them all
Hardrace Spherical Bearing have the longest lifetime of them all
Hardrace Spherical Bearing have the longest lifetime of them all
Hardrace Spherical Bearing have the longest lifetime of them all
Hardrace Spherical Bearing have the longest lifetime of them all
Hardrace Spherical Bearing have the longest lifetime of them all
Hardrace Spherical Bearing have the longest lifetime of them all
Hardrace Spherical Bearing have the longest lifetime of them all
Hardrace Spherical Bearing have the longest lifetime of them all
Hardrace Spherical Bearing have the longest lifetime of them all
Hardrace Spherical Bearing have the longest lifetime of them all
Hardrace Spherical Bearing have the longest lifetime of them all
Hardrace Spherical Bearing have the longest lifetime of them all
Hardrace Spherical Bearing have the longest lifetime of them all
Hardrace Spherical Bearing have the longest lifetime of them all
Hardrace Spherical Bearing have the longest lifetime of them all
Hardrace Spherical Bearing have the longest lifetime of them all
Hardrace Spherical Bearing have the longest lifetime of them all
Hardrace Spherical Bearing have the longest lifetime of them all
Hardrace Spherical Bearing have the longest lifetime of them all
Hardrace Spherical Bearing have the longest lifetime of them all
Hardrace Spherical Bearing have the longest lifetime of them all
Hardrace Spherical Bearing have the longest lifetime of them all
Hardrace Spherical Bearing have the longest lifetime of them all
Hardrace Spherical Bearing have the longest lifetime of them all
Hardrace Spherical Bearing have the longest lifetime of them all
Hardrace Spherical Bearing have the longest lifetime of them all
Hardrace Spherical Bearing have the longest lifetime of them all

[senna]

Super Pro Polyurethane bushes have a compliance version available which gives you a voided bush - this allows some movement in the bush and it also comes with a new pin and no need to re-use the original shell either.

[anzai]

that has been superceeded by s21
there was a service bulletin floating around the intarwebz to replace sr3 with s21

s21 is cheaper by $20usd/ea as well

ohy yeh i saw that

ok.... ebay it i suppose?

but hardrace is $125/pair, cheep cheep

[Bludger]

Super Pro Polyurethane bushes have a compliance version available which gives you a voided bush - this allows some movement in the bush and it also comes with a new pin and no need to re-use the original shell either.

looks gimmicky.

Any hard data or personal experience on them?

[bennjamin]

Guys

Oem is only $60 ish each. That's $120 ish a pair. And will last 10+ years IF dialed into your correct height.

Better than any other Rta bushes

[bennjamin]

Super Pro Polyurethane bushes have a compliance version available which gives you a voided bush - this allows some movement in the bush and it also comes with a new pin and no need to re-use the original shell either.

While you are Plugging this design - I have to disagree and state this design is no good.
Under loads or sudden hits ( potholes etc) these bushes actually go dynamic ( ie pull out of spec). They WILL slide on that rod and allso only give to axis movement where retained bushes like OEM give total movement. When this design tries to move in a certain axis it can't it simply slides along the rod which can alter toe. Dangerous.
I had the same design on my last civic and I had to align quite frequently.

[mocchi]

While you are Plugging this design - I have to disagree and state this design is no good.
Under loads or sudden hits ( potholes etc) these bushes actually go dynamic ( ie pull out of spec).
I had the same design on my last civic and I had to align quite frequently. Avoid.

same design like pedders bushes, i dont understand why they design bush to allow side movement?
never thought this design was good but wasnt exactly sure why.

only because it wasnt like oem.

[Bludger]

I had the same design on my last civic and I had to align quite frequently. Avoid.

dat der personal experience.

chuck gonna chuck

[trism]

I did a bit of research regarding this before I bought mine.

I was gonna go all polyurethane stuff, but after some reading, its apparently not the best.

While nice and stiff and predictable while brand new, they can distort under hard driving, and because they're just plastic, stay distorted.

They also deteriorate quicker, and will last half the kms than rubber.

Hardrace is rubber, but 150% harder than stock

[anzai]

Guys

Oem is only $60 ish each. That's $120 ish a pair. And will last 10+ years IF dialed into your correct height.

Better than any other Rta bushes

my local parts dealer quoted $97 incl GST each =S

[mocchi]

I did a bit of research regarding this before I bought mine.

I was gonna go all polyurethane stuff, but after some reading, its apparently not the best.

While nice and stiff and predictable while brand new, they can distort under hard driving, and because they're just plastic, stay distorted.

They also deteriorate quicker, and will last half the kms than rubber.

Hardrace is rubber, but 150% harder than stock

its been 3 years now and my hardrace rta bush is still like new.
im not dumped, just lowered around 1-2 finger gap

idk if im gonna keep the eg for another 7yrs to find out hardrace vs oem lmzo