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09-08-2012 08:00 PM
#13477
 Originally Posted by JDM EP3
The gruppem is crazy awesome well worth it IMO
I guess it depends on your definition of 'well worth it'.
If I get a better power gain from an Injen + RBC + $400 on god knows what, is it still worth it? Worth is like beauty I guess, its in the eye of the beholder.
I think I'm just old school, function over form and all that. No doubt at all, the Gruppe M looks fantastic, and there is no way in the world anyone who has forked out $1000 + for an intake is going to say bad things about it, why would you after forking out your hard earned? I figure if the Injen provides 33% of the power increase of a Gruppe M, then I'm on par . . . any more is a bonus . . . a very very cheap bonus.
Stay tuned, we will see shortly I'm sure.
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09-08-2012 08:21 PM
#13478
guiz
its pretty much proven that any intake is basically the same 2-3kw top end gain bottom end loss and a bunch of noise. I got the gruppe m with my ep3 - sounded very nice from the outside but i wouldnt pay that much for it !
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09-08-2012 08:27 PM
#13479
 Originally Posted by bennjamin
guiz
its pretty much proven that any intake is basically the same 2-3kw top end gain bottom end loss and a bunch of noise. I got the gruppe m with my ep3 - sounded very nice from the outside but i wouldnt pay that much for it !
+1
Exactly my thoughts on it. If it were my cash I was paying with, I'd buy an Injen CAI.
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09-08-2012 08:30 PM
#13480
 Originally Posted by bennjamin
guiz
its pretty much proven that any intake is basically the same 2-3kw top end gain bottom end loss and a bunch of noise. I got the gruppe m with my ep3 - sounded very nice from the outside but i wouldnt pay that much for it !
Just as proven as the EP3 chassis being different to the EP3 Si chassis and looking at Acura RSX injen CAI for EP3 irrespective of the fact that there is no chance at all of it fitting?
Struggling man, Struggling.
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09-08-2012 08:56 PM
#13481
 Originally Posted by -JC-
I guess it depends on your definition of 'well worth it'.
If I get a better power gain from an Injen + RBC + $400 on god knows what, is it still worth it? Worth is like beauty I guess, its in the eye of the beholder.
I think I'm just old school, function over form and all that. No doubt at all, the Gruppe M looks fantastic, and there is no way in the world anyone who has forked out $1000 + for an intake is going to say bad things about it, why would you after forking out your hard earned? I figure if the Injen provides 33% of the power increase of a Gruppe M, then I'm on par . . . any more is a bonus . . . a very very cheap bonus.
Stay tuned, we will see shortly I'm sure.
Yeah all that you say can be taken into consideration, although givem that a gruppem gets more proven power its makes more sense to get the most gains out of the engine. If i was to also add a rbc to that and have the gruppem it will probably get more power compared to a injen and rbc. Yes your option is bang for buck in that sense but this is na where you want every last hp you can squeeze out of the engine.
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09-08-2012 08:58 PM
#13482
 Originally Posted by -JC-
Just as proven as the EP3 chassis being different to the EP3 Si chassis and looking at Acura RSX injen CAI for EP3 irrespective of the fact that there is no chance at all of it fitting?
Struggling man, Struggling.
I would look at a RSX intake - its almost the same chassis and engine dimensions
Civic Si is a different chassis - does anyone know if the engine bay is similar / same ?
You stated "civic Si" which is two different chassis with k series motors spanning some 10 years in the US - how was anyone to know (at the time) what you meant and that you would bring it up later on stating "No...i meant EP3 so i doubt your overall knowledge of anything". Relax.
Last edited by bennjamin; 09-08-2012 at 09:03 PM.
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09-08-2012 09:00 PM
#13483
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09-08-2012 09:08 PM
#13484
'proven power?' dude, all you need to do now is prove it! I've got $150 that says a stock ep3 with moneybags intake won't go faster than el cheapo injen intake? Any takers?
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09-08-2012 09:24 PM
#13485
On second thought, this is probably a mis-understanding more than anything else.
I probably should have just relaxed.
Carry on.
Last edited by -JC-; 10-08-2012 at 06:43 AM.
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09-08-2012 10:58 PM
#13486
man being a p plater sucks lol. 4 points ftl
vtak + jrsc = bwwaaaahinneeeee
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10-08-2012 08:31 AM
#13487
 Originally Posted by -JC-
'proven power?' dude, all you need to do now is prove it! I've got $150 that says a stock ep3 with moneybags intake won't go faster than el cheapo injen intake? Any takers?
Correct
free air is free air no matter how you free it up
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13.28@106.6mph 2.117 60ft On RE001
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10-08-2012 09:47 AM
#13488
Isn't the Gruppe M the only intake that doesn't screw up your Vtec change-over point? Not sure where I read that??
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