Fredoops , i end up biting the bullet and ordering the one from Honda , mates brother got for me for trade price 10% off been ordered and paid for, so next time i will try the magnefine filter as i could almost buy 3 for that price.

Hogan if you are buying the Honda transmission fluid tell them you want ATF-dw1 fluid, not ATF-z1 which they say is all they have, the ATF-dw1 is the replacement for ATF-z1