Euro - Headers or Pulleys?

[sodaz]

Thanks for the feedback. After doing a bit of reading on other forums here what i came up with. Let me know what you think...

Pulleys
Pros:
1. Improvement in power across the whole rev range (esp low to mid)
2. Car revs noticeably faster and you notice the power the second you step on it.

Cons:
1. Possible battery problems (doesn't charge battery as much) - new battery?
2. Less power to the accessories (Lights, Power Steering, Wipers etc)
3. Even though the engine is internally balanced, there's really no way to tell how it would affect the engine in the long run.

Headers
Pros:
1. Give a good power increase across the rev range
2. Easy installation
3. No reliability issues (supposedly less risk)

Cons:
1. Slight dips in power in the mid range (3000ish)
2. Possible hissing sounds and vibrations

[yfin]

Sodaz - it might help to know if you have any existing mods on your car? Have you done the intake yet?

[Chris_F]

I heard the area on the flywheel facing on the DC5R(where the clutch etc sits) is smaller/less than the Euro!

I had the option of running the jdm dc5r flywheel with the stock euro clutch, so i believe they should be the same. I can't 100% confirm this though without more research, although i had the exedy sports organic and oem euro flywheel out at the same time and they seemed to be of the same size (key word being seemed :P). If i can locate some information that confirms this (or otherwise) i'll ad it to this thread.

TypeG, the aftermarket ones are slightly lighter and with the exedy unit you save 0.5kg over the jdm dc5r, i believe its a similar weight saving if you go for toda (which is up to 1kg lighter)

personally i erred on the side of caution going with an oem honda product that is obviously reliable in a k application. the k24s long stroke may also be a reason for concern with extremely light flywheels, or not. But its not something i wanted to test out.

like i said before, i think the header is a good choice and if you go for a quality product the cracking shouldn't be an issue.

I'd also like to know your current mods to make a better judgement

[sodaz]

Sodaz - it might help to know if you have any existing mods on your car? Have you done the intake yet?

Yep i've got the Comptech icebox with the ITG filter. I've also got the Cusco front strut, lower tie type 1 and whiteline rear sway bar.

[tony1234]

[QUOTE=Chris_F;988360]I had the option of running the jdm dc5r flywheel with the stock euro clutch, so i believe they should be the same. I can't 100% confirm this though without more research, although i had the exedy sports organic and oem euro flywheel out at the same time and they seemed to be of the same size (key word being seemed :P). If i can locate some information that confirms this (or otherwise) i'll ad it to this thread.

TypeG, the aftermarket ones are slightly lighter and with the exedy unit you save 0.5kg over the jdm dc5r, i believe its a similar weight saving if you go for toda (which is up to 1kg lighter)

personally i erred on the side of caution going with an oem honda product that is obviously reliable in a k application. the k24s long stroke may also be a reason for concern with extremely light flywheels, or not. But its not something i wanted to test out.
Yeah Chris.I'd be int.to know more.I'd consider a lightened flywheel(not too light)and a heavy duty clutch.I don't want a clutch that is "noisy".i'd want it to be as close to stock(re: noise, pedal feel etc.) as possible......Thanks.
like i said before, i think the header is a good choice and if you go for a quality product the cracking shouldn't be an issue.

[Type R Positive]

I had the option of running the jdm dc5r flywheel with the stock euro clutch, so i believe they should be the same.

That's what I thought.....

[tony1234]

Not sure.can anyone confirm this?

[Chris_F]

Yeah Chris.I'd be int.to know more.I'd consider a lightened flywheel(not too light)and a heavy duty clutch.I don't want a clutch that is "noisy".i'd want it to be as close to stock(re: noise, pedal feel etc.) as possible......Thanks.
like i said before, i think the header is a good choice and if you go for a quality product the cracking shouldn't be an issue.

hehe tony you forgot to ad the [/quote]

You can actually get an OEM spec clutch through exedy, that should offer the same characteristics as stock. Because it's expensive to have a new flywheel fitted i went with a new sportier clutch at the same time hoping itll last a bit longer than the oem one (maybe). But for the performance a flywheel is well worth the money and yo ushouldnt let the installation cost put you off. For $7-800 you can have a comptech flywheel that is about 4.5kg including installation. No catback, intake or header (and most likely any combination of those without tuning) is going to give you as much of a gain. So in that sense its a great bang for the buck mod.

The only downside.. there's little to know wank factor... you can't hear it, you can't see it, but you can definitely feel it.

IMO a mildly modified well rounded euro would consist of coilovers and or sway bars, brake pads and a flywheel - I/H/E mods are over rated but they do look good and make the car sound the part at least

[ALN]

Not sure.can anyone confirm this?

I'm using comptech flywheel on my euro. It will only fit with euro spec clutch that's what the exedy mechanics told me. If you wanna running exedy DC5 setups you must buy the clutch and the flywheels setups from exedy that also works for any after market setups.
About the JDM DC5 flywheels, better ask Chris F. Hope this info can help

[tony1234]

I'm using comptech flywheel on my euro. It will only fit with euro spec clutch that's what the exedy mechanics told me. If you wanna running exedy DC5 setups you must buy the clutch and the flywheels setups from exedy that also works for any after market setups.
About the JDM DC5 flywheels, better ask Chris F. Hope this info can help

What brand of clutch are you using ALN?How much did it all cost and where did you get it all from?......Thanks.

[sodaz]

LOL this thread has turned into a clutch discussion thread!!

[tony1234]

IMO a mildly modified well rounded euro would consist of coilovers and or sway bars, brake pads and a flywheel - I/H/E mods are over rated but they do look good and make the car sound the part at least [/QUOTE]
I agree.that's why i'm asking lots of Qs re:lightened flywheel.