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					  Originally Posted by  slidetaker
					 
				 
				I am not so sure about that. According to “Tirerack”.. 
“….it is important to realize that the Department of Transportation does not conduct the tests. The grades are assigned by the tire manufacturers based on their test results or those conducted by an independent testing company they have hired. The NHTSA has the right to inspect the tire manufacturer's data….”
 
“..Typically, comparing the Treadwear Grades of tire lines within a single brand is somewhat helpful, while attempting to compare the grades between different brands is not as helpful.’’
 http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete...currentpage=35 
			
		 
	 
 LOL, don't take tirerack's articles as gospel. 
 
The test track for the treadwear rating is located near San Angelo, Texas and it is owned by NHTSA. There is only ONE test track. All manufacturers go there to test, using the NHTSA testing procedure. Once manufacturer's test at that location, the data is then used to extrapolate the entire tyre life wear. Of course you can't say that a 200 tyre would last 40,000km and a 300 tyre would last EXACTLY 60,000km. It could be 50,000km, or it could be 70,000km. But, a 300 tyre should last significantly longer when driven under the same conditions as a 200 tyre. Remember, it's NOT a guarantee. It is a GUIDE. 
 
PDF file of the testing procedure: 
http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/staticfiles...-UTQG-W-01.pdf
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
				
				
				
					
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							get a set of 205/50/15 its cheap and you can get good control out of it 
or try get Falken Azeni
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
				
				
				
					
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							Falken tyres are crap, easy as that. Do they even make the Azeni's any more?
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
				
                                       
                                 
				
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							yeah..azenis rt-615 with a new thread pattern.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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							Hey guys, 
 
im running thin on tread on my Falken Ziex512s and it looks like sooner rather than later I'll be looking to upgrade. especially after getting a nice big thick can openner wire getting stuck and deflating my tyre last night. 
 
I found the ZIEX512s not bad in dry but just like other people here - somewhat unpredictable in wet so definatelly something better handling in the wet is what im after. 
 
Currently running 205/40/17s. 
 
I called a couple places based on some of the recomendations here and found the prices being slightly more... by about $80 
 
Potenza GIII @ $289 
 
The guy recommended the following and wandering if anyone can comment on these: 
 
Pirelli Dragons @ $280 
Pirelli 7000 @ $314 
 
Michelin Pilot Precenda @ $279 
Yokohama Aro @ $280 
 
Kumho KU21 @229 
Kumho KU31 @199 
 
I was hoping to purchase something closer to $200 so i'll do a few more calls here and there. 
 
any info would be appreciated
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
				
				
				
					
						Last edited by SINISTR; 11-12-2006 at 05:50 PM.
					
					
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					  Originally Posted by  SINISTR
					 
				 
				Hey guys, 
 
im running thin on tread on my Falken Ziex512s and it looks like sooner rather than later I'll be looking to upgrade. especially after getting a nice big thick can openner wire getting stuck and deflating my tyre last night. 
 
I found the ZIEX512s not bad in dry but just like other people here - somewhat unpredictable in wet so definatelly something better handling in the wet is what im after. 
 
Currently running 205/40/17s. 
 
I called a couple places based on some of the recomendations here and found the prices being slightly more... by about $80 
 
Potenza GIII @ $289 
 
The guy recommended the following and wandering if anyone can comment on these: 
 
Pirelli Dragons @ $280 
Pirelli 7000 @ $314 
 
Michelin Pilot Precenda @ $279 
Yokohama Aro @ $280 
 
Kumho KU21 @229 
Kumho KU31 @199 
 
I was hoping to purchase something closer to $200 so i'll do a few more calls here and there. 
 
any info would be appreciated 
			
		 
	 
 Dunlop SP Sport Maxx in that size cost me $222 each however that was the cheapest quotation. 
 
Yoki's can't remember the A something spec, but were about 240 odd and EVS100 were about 270. Toyo T1R's got quoted about 250 as well.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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							looks like again Perth prices are more by about $40-$60 bucks!?  
 
im tempted to get  the Kuhmo KU31 @ $199.  
 
Does anyone have them? they are getting quiet good reviews.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
				
                                       
                                 
				
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							Hankook K104's would fit in your budget and are quite an excellent tyre.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
				
                                       
                                 
				
		        		N14 Pulsar - VQ35 swap, Kelford C spec cams, 12.7:1CR, 6 speed HLSD, BC coilovers & 350Z 12.6" F brakes 
Smashed VY SS Ute: Teins, AP Racing brakes, Billet wheels, lazy 481rwKw TT kit -  PICS 
				
                                        
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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					  Originally Posted by  iamhappy46
					 
				 
				Hankook K104's would fit in your budget and are quite an excellent tyre. 
			
		 
	 
 ah yeah... thats what the guy at the tyre place said this morning when i was getting the Falken repaired.  
Just had a look around and aparently they have a very weak sidewall - when hitting a pothole etc they just crap themselves - can you confirm?
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
				
                                       
                                 
				
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							Just need to keep the tyre pressure up to recommended levels and they are fine. No less than 35psi and the sidewalls will last practically forever.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
				
                                       
                                 
				
		        		N14 Pulsar - VQ35 swap, Kelford C spec cams, 12.7:1CR, 6 speed HLSD, BC coilovers & 350Z 12.6" F brakes 
Smashed VY SS Ute: Teins, AP Racing brakes, Billet wheels, lazy 481rwKw TT kit -  PICS 
				
                                        
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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							What you guys recommend for 14" 
  
godo performance ones.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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					  Originally Posted by  SINISTR
					 
				 
				looks like again Perth prices are more by about $40-$60 bucks!?  
 
im tempted to get  the Kuhmo KU31 @ $199.  
 
Does anyone have them? they are getting quiet good reviews. 
			
		 
	 
 I got quoted the same price for the g3's though lol... 
 
with sydney you just ring around many places...prices vary heaps... 
 
 
e.g. the most expensive quote for the dunlops I got was $345....ie...123 bucks more expensive per corner!  
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
		 
		
		
	
 
	
	
 
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
			
				 
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