Compare Renault Clio Sport & ITR?

[aaronng]

Ah, no.

And why not?

[destrukshn]

the difference is that they do it with an auto tranny, aircon, a full interior, street tyres and 6krpm
credit where credit is due...

don't get me wrong, i love v8's.
lol.
i'm not just a 4 banger man.
i'd pick a ford gtp, hsv gto, even a 351 xy gt over a type r.
torque is so much better.

[ginganggooly]

And why not?

A certain ozhonda VTi-R ran a 14.3 @ 96mph- with stock internals. To qualify as "way faster" i'd be expecting a similarly spec'd clio to run 14.000 or better.
Are you aware of some respectably quick-ish Clio's that i'm not?

[ginganggooly]

i'd pick a forg gtp, hsv gto, even a 351 xy gt over a type r.
torque is so much better.

[aaronng]

A certain ozhonda VTi-R ran a 14.3 @ 96mph- with stock internals. To qualify as "way faster" i'd be expecting a similarly spec'd clio to run 14.000 or better.
Are you aware of some respectably quick-ish Clio's that i'm not?

Go and ask the renault forums. VTi-R has a power to weight of 9.44 kg/kW, while the Clio Sport 182 has 8.32 kg/kW. Put that driver into a Clio Sport and watch him beat 14.3s.

Edit: If you meant DC2 VTi-R, then that has 9.41 kg/kW. Still the same result.

[ginganggooly]

Go and ask the renault forums. VTi-R has a power to weight of 9.44 kg/kW, while the Clio Sport 182 has 8.32 kg/kW. Put that driver into a Clio Sport and watch him beat 14.3s.

Ah how delightful, so the moderators are endorsing magazine racing now?
Onya.

You can quote figures from the back of magazines all you want me old china, but unless you've a timeslip to confirm that the Clio does indeed run "way faster" than the DC2, you're really not proving your point. Don't you think?

[destrukshn]

but it's not all about power to weight ratio.
it's how fast it can make the power, how much torque they have, the gear rations.
but power to weight ration does count.
lol.

[xzbit]

There are still a lot of differences betweent the two cars. I personally haven't driven a clio, but there is a difference in terms of technological advancement, considering the DC2R is between 5-7 years old now. Both are good cars in their own respect! But since this a honda forum and I drive a
DC2R! I say the DC2R!

Of course the majority here are going to be putting the Type R ahead of the Clio!

Just my 2c's!

[aaronng]

Ah how delightful, so the moderators are endorsing magazine racing now?
Onya.

You can quote figures from the back of magazines all you want me old china, but unless you've a timeslip to confirm that the Clio does indeed run "way faster" than the DC2, you're really not proving your point. Don't you think?

LOL, that's why I said go ask the renault forms. I haven't been to the drags in a clio sport. The most that I can do is estimate the clio vs the VTi-R.

BTW, got a question. Has anyone else run anything close to 14.3 in a stock VTi-R before?

[ginganggooly]

LOL, that's why I said go ask the renault forms. I haven't been to the drags in a clio sport. The most that I can do is estimate the clio vs the VTi-R.

BTW, got a question. Has anyone else run anything close to 14.3 in a stock VTi-R before?

14.3 @ 96mph- with stock internals.

note: stock internals, not stock vti-r.
there are a few stockers (cat back, 17's etc) that have run high 14's.

[IAMVTEC]

i've heard a few v8 drivers say the same thing about anything that has 4 cylinders, anything that is fwd and anything that is japanese... you can see what i'm getting at

Those type of v8 drivers, I dont want to know them and I really dont care what they think.

[ginganggooly]

Those type of v8 drivers, I dont want to know them and I really dont care what they think.

I'm sure that sentiment is mutual.