Seeking your views [ADL people please read]

[RyDC5S]

I think you guys should have a presence (even if its a small one) in any car meet, not just Honda ones to promote awareness for OZH.

Adelaide has a sizable OZH contingent already.

[Brash22]

VTEK has hit the nail on the head. While going on cruises is fun, there needs to be a point, be it going to some place for a feed, photoshoot or whatever, there needs to be a point to the meet, other than just catching up with mates.

[ProECU]

I think you guys should have a presence (even if its a small one) in any car meet, not just Honda ones to promote awareness for OZH.

I dont get it, why would we want to do this, considering OzH doesn't want a bar of it...??

Has anyone read, let alone understood my post ?

<bangs head on wall>

[wynode]

Can the OP elaborate as to what he/she was bringing up?

Ie
1. Talking about organising meets/cruises via OH; or
2. Organising events/people to take part in events external to OH

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These were my initial thoughts for which I was attacked for (perhaps I should've ellaborated, but sometimes I just can't be bothered as the mentality of the school kids that pass through here leaves much to be desired)

I've noted what you said above however thought I should also add that some of your comments are just that......comments that a school kid would make. Only have to look at some of your previous posts to see that.

[A.G.System]

Think that the first thing that i was trying to get a vibe for from the community was.....

Do they feel that we have a good presence at car shows atm and if not what do they think we can do as a whole to improve this?

Would having a better set up for finding out about local cruises and events encourage people to attend these events more?

Do you believe that using the OzHonda banner at car shows is a good thing?
If so or not how would you want this to be used to promote you the community.

If you have any ideas on how we can change the way we are represented as a state on OzHonda to make it a better experience for you.

Also remember that if OzHonda was to add advertising to the site specific to tuners. More people coming to the site would be beneficial to everyone. Thanks to the revenue.

Hope that covers your questions Wyn.

[mr crex]

the thing people are forgetting when it comes to car shows is this...

OZHonda is a Forum... not a car club... the difference between OZHonda and say NS.Com & EVO/GSR Club is they have a club affiliation and have are CAMS Licenced Clubs which covers them in the event of something happening and people try to make them liable etc. etc.

OZHonda however is not CAMS Licenced (that I know of) and would be weary of being advertised etc. at shows and cruises for the fact that they do not want to be held responsible for misfortunes (such as the last cruise organised via members of OZHonda)


I personally dont see why the people here wanting something done about a honda prescence at car shows and more regular cruises etc. dont just organise their own HONDA CAR CLUB?... it isnt too hard if the right people are at the helm... trust me.

and as far as advertising OZHonda... I'd suspect OZHonda gets the majority of its new members via word of mouth from other members... its not hard to open your mouth at a car show or driving around or whatever and tell people about OZHonda and give them the link...

[Q_ball]

the thing people are forgetting when it comes to car shows is this...

OZHonda is a Forum... not a car club...

Correct.

[Muzz]

they do not want to be held responsible for misfortunes (such as the last cruise organised via members of OZHonda)

Do u mind me asking what happend?

[Q_ball]

Do u mind me asking what happend?

Basically an accident happened between a few of the members that attended this cruise.

[DSNTGR8]

How would OzHonda feel though if at future car shows we were to use and ozhonda banner or something similar to promote us as a 'group'? Wouldnt this be beneficial as it gets the ozhonda name out there for people who havent really heard of that brand before?

As mentioned earlier i still feel state sub sections would be a good idea, if they were 'policed' properly by elected mods.

[eG_YoDa]

is it me or does this thread seem to be going round and round in circles??????

[ProECU]

from last page...

It really comes down to this:

1. What is the OzHonda brand/forum's goal/purpose. ie Does it have a vision as to what it would like to achieve long term? Something similar to a mission statement. (It honestly appears that OzHonda is at a standstill/cross road currently - hence my lack of direction comment in the other thread, and a source of frustration, but thats another story for another thread.)

2. Does the community goal then tie into OzH's vision? If yes, what can be done mutually to move the National effort forward?

3. If NO, then alternatives need to be considered, such as a network of state based car clubs, all rolling up into a parent. This structure will oversee and vote on allocation of funds and organise the National meets etc)

So this thread is really going to be pointless unless point1 above is given some attention by the moderators or Wyn or whomever owns this forum.
As for the childish comments Wyn, thats a fair comment, but there comes a point where priorities change in peoples lives, Both you as a moderator and me as a member. I'm sooo over this forum its not funny. I read the technical section, only to see questions on... Oh my sump is dented, and trivial questions that can be answered just by opening up the damn Honda manual and READING for goodness sake. It's soo frustrating and painful, believe it or not, its a source of frustration for a LOT of members.

This however doesn't mean I dont want to help assist the exposure of the honda community.

Fact is: I've always called a spade a spade, now with my motivation shifting away from this place, I have even more reason to, and i'll stick my neck out and say the following:

It appears this place has turned into a database of DIY's aimed aimed at showcasing peoples prowess around an engine bay, and database of Traders, so that they can gain financial benefit from the exposure/recognition it brings. Ok it helps members, but it's nothing they cant get from the Honda Manual.
There are only a handful of knowledgeable people here who in fact do not have an expectation of gain and contribute with no strings attached. I commend those individuals (small pat on back for myself )
(you know what i'm getting at here)

In my view, direction needs to be given from the top, ie you. What is this forum all about? Where do you envisage this forum in the short term & long term future?
Credit to the people here who continue to push boundaries, but without the guidance of OzH, I believe their efforts are in vein.
Clear example... event organisers such as Steve & Dave whom have organised cruises in the past appear to have lost motivation to do so again....why?

Why?.... becuase there is no point. Without a goal or purpose it gets repetitive, boring, just another cruise...etc.

See where i'm going? I think the answer is just a simple statement from the owner of this site. Does it want to increase its committment to its members and also to the wider Honda community, or is it happy to just exist as is. The answer isn't as important as the theme it gives.

I expect the answer is "just as is" because it's a lot easier and much less work involved.

So, i'll make 1 last point.

You & your team are in a unique position. With this site, you have the means and potential to create a unprecedented presence within Australia and shape what the Honda community can achieve in the future. The potential to control a particular destiny is probably to greatest oportunity one can hold. This site holds that potential, the real question is... what will you & your team do with it for the greater good of it's members, not only its moderators ?