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Shaun
04-10-2007, 02:29 PM
i found place with a ep3 Civic type R in melbourne today! wooo! a little too expensive though, was like 30k for an 01 or 02 i forget, looked clean though and atleast i got to have a closer look, i noticed the recaros don't seem to hug me as tight as my evo3 does, but the shifter position feels real good, i didnt have a chance to testdrive it but from what i saw its pretty much as i expected and i like it. quick question though, do all JDM type Rs come with a UK flag next to the civic flag? coz i would have expected that to be only on the uk delivered cars.

Perry
04-10-2007, 02:34 PM
All Ep3 chasis was made in the UK

Shaun
04-10-2007, 02:36 PM
yes i know this, im questioning the flag badge on the back, did the JDM models have that flag as well?

Philip Lee
04-10-2007, 03:34 PM
JDM has the flag but UK didn't have it.

Shaun
04-10-2007, 04:31 PM
sweet, i thought it would have been the other way around thats why i was a bit confused, thanks for that dude.

SuperSteve
06-10-2007, 01:18 AM
yeah my civic type r im purchasing has got the uk badge but although made in uk its been imported from japan so its got jap mods, eg the lsd and seats etc.

6ary
06-10-2007, 03:58 AM
For 30k you could get a decent 2nd hand s2k

xqwzit
06-10-2007, 09:10 AM
ep3 > s2k > fn2

HWIROL
06-10-2007, 09:50 AM
i found place with a ep3 Civic type R in melbourne today! wooo! a little too expensive though, was like 30k for an 01 or 02 i forget, looked clean though and atleast i got to have a closer look, i noticed the recaros don't seem to hug me as tight as my evo3 does, but the shifter position feels real good, i didnt have a chance to testdrive it but from what i saw its pretty much as i expected and i like it. quick question though, do all JDM type Rs come with a UK flag next to the civic flag? coz i would have expected that to be only on the uk delivered cars.

nice man...where abouts in Melbourne is it? wouldnt mind going to check it out..

Shaun
06-10-2007, 11:07 AM
i think there called SSV? there on Princess Hwy and Huntingdale roads

HWIROL
06-10-2007, 11:20 AM
cool man, 5mins away from me...ill drive past & check it out

DreadAngel
06-10-2007, 11:24 AM
There was a few on J-Spec too but most of them last about 3 days before they're gone. The Mailing list is just a show of some stuff they have... If you need someone to contact on J-Spec for stuff they don't show, give me a PM :D

joek
08-10-2007, 03:18 PM
ma ybe if u looking for a good Ep3 u can buy mine ...hahaha

btw my one is the only 05 in the whole australia .... private import from auction

but wht i trying to say is if u not willing pay over 30k on raod for a EP3
u better try yr luck on the auction in jap.... the cheapest Ep3 i saw so far is a 01 model with 70k+ km selling 1.2m yen + fob cost + on road cost + compliance will be around $25k

Shaun
08-10-2007, 05:20 PM
yep thats right, ive already looked down that avenue, and seems like the better option.

Chris_typer
09-10-2007, 07:16 PM
ep3 > s2k > fn2

You gotta be kinding right? I dont think its better than an s2k...

DreadAngel
09-10-2007, 07:42 PM
Lol, its called personal preference or in laymans terms opinion ;)

joek
10-10-2007, 12:31 AM
yea i would not say a EP3 will better than a S2k...since they both their advantage and disadvantage.....

also like or not is so personal hahaha

but since i have my civic it seems quicker than a S2k.....may be just the feel....wht a normal s2k pwr is like ??

scud
10-10-2007, 10:56 PM
Ive had an s2k, and now i have a jdm ep3. To compare the straight line performance of the 2... They are right on par with each other!!! but the braking, cornering and downshifting of a jdm ep3 has to be experianced to be believed, and kills everything ive ever driven!! not for pure speed, but the whole driving package is just awesome!!! It puts an even bigger smile on my face than my old evo8 mr. If you ever have a chance to pick up an ep3, dont pass it up. Its the best value car available on the market!!!

Shaun
11-10-2007, 11:36 AM
^thats exactly what i want to hear! an ex EVO driver with an ep3 and loving it! thanks for that dude

scud
11-10-2007, 11:50 AM
No probs Shaun, To sum it up in a short. Buy a jdm ep3 if you love tight twistie roads and want to challenge yourself. Buy an evo if you just want to go as fast as possible and let the computers sort everything out for you. But the best thing about the jdm ep3 is unlike an evo, you dont have to spend bucket loads of money on aftermarket parts to make it a great car, it comes almost perfect from the factory!!! :thumbsup:

NightRyder
11-10-2007, 10:03 PM
I totally agree... :thumbsup:
I've driven an evo8 MR as well, yes the Evo has remarkable speed. But might add it also drinks a lot more. EP, well...what can I say...it is a complete package and fuel efficient.

Nepolian
11-10-2007, 10:32 PM
Agree with all you guys. I test drove all the so called "Hot Hatches" in Aus, maybe not all, I didnt really drive many of the Euro ones....but thats not the point.

None of them really excited me, except for maybe the MPS3, good power and speed, not much else.

I test drove a DC5R, assumed the EP3 would be the same or better (dont want to get into an argument about which ones better, DC5 guys). So i pretty much bought one without test driving it.

And I dont regret it. Its the coolest go kart I have ever owned, except for the Mira I had many years ago.

YES GUYS you can spend alot of money on the car still. Look at all the goodies out there!!!!

thebob
11-10-2007, 10:44 PM
CF doors!

Malenic1981
11-10-2007, 10:56 PM
I've had DC2R and driven DC5R and few other civics but not yet EP3, at the moment I have S2K, for me DC2R is by far the most exciting out of all of them, it's pretty much race car for street (I also had I/H/E, coilovers ect) so car was pretty fast even in a stright line (new owner, good friend of mine pulled 14.3 down the 1/4) while I just managed to get into 14s with S2K. EP3 should be pretty interesting as well, and fast but I don't know if it's good to be on same level as DC2R, from all the tests I watched from europe it's good but not as good as DC2R, apperantly the new JDM CTR (sedan) is first car with red bage since DC2R that can fully back up "R" letter in it's name (this is according to new EVO magzine, they did a test on it and that tested a fine example of DC2R next to it.

Philip Lee
12-10-2007, 09:11 AM
EP3 should be pretty interesting as well, and fast but I don't know if it's good to be on same level as DC2R, from all the tests I watched from europe it's good but not as good as DC2R...........

the Euro EP3 is different to JDM EP3.

euro has detuned K20 and no LSD. so if you based your opinion on euro tests, they might not be accurate.

R123
12-10-2007, 01:36 PM
wow even an Evo MR owner is impressed...

gotta be a mad one...

SuperSteve
12-10-2007, 04:53 PM
on the ep3 topic. check out this ep3 beast :D
http://honda-portal.com/honda-videos.php?video_id=534

Malenic1981
12-10-2007, 06:29 PM
Most of tests I've watched were on euro EP3 but some were from Japan where they used Jap spec one, still not as good as DC2R, the only R that's on same level is aprently the one we are not getting (4 door sedan)

SuperSteve
12-10-2007, 06:57 PM
i heard a rumour that the 4 door sedan type r which is currently being sold in japan is going to b shipped here next year and going to b replacing the new hatchback type r :D hmm JDM ep3 and a DC2R i really wouldnt see much of a difference between the 2

Chris_typer
13-10-2007, 10:51 AM
i heard a rumour that the 4 door sedan type r which is currently being sold in japan is going to b shipped here next year and going to b replacing the new hatchback type r :D hmm JDM ep3 and a DC2R i really wouldnt see much of a difference between the 2

Where'd you here that from?

JINRAI
14-10-2007, 03:55 AM
Ive had an s2k, and now i have a jdm ep3. To compare the straight line performance of the 2... They are right on par with each other!!! but the braking, cornering and downshifting of a jdm ep3 has to be experianced to be believed, and kills everything ive ever driven!! not for pure speed, but the whole driving package is just awesome!!! It puts an even bigger smile on my face than my old evo8 mr. If you ever have a chance to pick up an ep3, dont pass it up. Its the best value car available on the market!!!

find it really hard to believe...must test drive one then :wave:

Ramp Signal
14-10-2007, 06:23 AM
Where'd you here that from?

Here's one source, though it doesn't specifically mention replacing the FN2 Type R.

Wheels online article (http://www.wheelsmag.com.au/wheels/site/articleIDs/9BD8EB9C0D889774CA2573250006B6CA?open&template=domWheels)

Wonderful if true, but it's hard to believe Honda Australia would sell both Type Rs, and it seems they've already committed to launching the ordinary (non-Type R) FN2 here.

OTOH, the FD2 Type R would be very profitable at current exchange rates, while the FN2 isn't. And hey, why should we take a back seat to Malaysia?

Chris_typer
14-10-2007, 09:05 PM
Here's one source, though it doesn't specifically mention replacing the FN2 Type R.

Wheels online article (http://www.wheelsmag.com.au/wheels/site/articleIDs/9BD8EB9C0D889774CA2573250006B6CA?open&template=domWheels)

Wonderful if true, but it's hard to believe Honda Australia would sell both Type Rs, and it seems they've already committed to launching the ordinary (non-Type R) FN2 here.

OTOH, the FD2 Type R would be very profitable at current exchange rates, while the FN2 isn't. And hey, why should we take a back seat to Malaysia?

Fair enough...exchange rates aren't really that good, apart from comparing it to the US, against other curriencies it hasnt really moved. I still recon it would be profitable Honda Aus. bringing it to Australia.

DreadAngel
14-10-2007, 09:34 PM
I can tell you that its far more problematic to try and bring in the FD2 instead of the FN2 and Honda Australia probably didn't see the FD2 (In all their claims of experience and expertise) fitting in their lineup/marketing strategy.

FN2 is very very easy to be ADR compliant. Just use the European crash results and safety test and your done (its more complicated than that but its about that easy to pass). The FD2 however I can tell you right now is far harder to get approved. ADR deems that Japanese Crash/Safety standards aren't worthy and need them to be tested and made specially compliant for Australia and her oh so high and mighty standards. This means ANY part that doesn't pass must be changed, redesigned and made to comply before it can pass.

They can ping anything they like from headlights (yes, they deem some Japanese Factory headlights are not worthy) to seatbeat anchors as unworthy and need attention. Without any idea how much it could cost (It takes $$$ to get it tested and if your pinged you must make a diffferent model have that tested) its just far simpler to get the model that can sail through all the checks with flying colours.

This is what I gathered from ADR, SEVS and talking with friends that do compliance work :)

NightRyder
14-10-2007, 10:05 PM
Guys, and for those who are new, before you continue on talking about the FD2 coming to Aus, this topic has already been covered and discussed in this thread http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=71491&page=1
:)


Please note this thread is for the EP3 model. :wave:

DreadAngel
14-10-2007, 11:19 PM
Bahahaha, didn't even see/remember that thread but basically its like I said, they have to consider making it complaint to Australia's uber high standards

joek
15-10-2007, 01:24 AM
well as for a reply about a few post back....i did try on1/4 mile with my ep3
stock everything just with a set of coilovers....13.97 0-400m
is that a good time or not.....
but this time to me is quick.....may be u guys think is slow.....

Nepolian
15-10-2007, 10:56 PM
well as for a reply about a few post back....i did try on1/4 mile with my ep3
stock everything just with a set of coilovers....13.97 0-400m
is that a good time or not.....
but this time to me is quick.....may be u guys think is slow.....

Nope!

I think any street car under 14sec is quick. Especially an N/A which is almost stock.

I'm quite surprised about the time though? That is alot quicker than I think it is?

Stab in the dark here, but do DC5's with I/H/E get this kind of time??

EKVTIR-T
15-10-2007, 11:25 PM
well as for a reply about a few post back....i did try on1/4 mile with my ep3
stock everything just with a set of coilovers....13.97 0-400m
is that a good time or not.....
but this time to me is quick.....may be u guys think is slow.....
Do you have any evidence of this time?

joek
15-10-2007, 11:57 PM
u want me to scan it up for u have an idea???

Nepolian
16-10-2007, 10:07 PM
u want me to scan it up for u have an idea???

I think thats what he's gettin at.

DreadAngel
17-10-2007, 12:27 AM
Well if your interested in some < $25K EP3s, I've found two :)

#1 - http://www.j-spec.com.au/list/index.php?ID=11317
#2 - http://www.j-spec.com.au/list/index.php?ID=11312

My friend inside J-Spec has a few more but not on the mailing list, Tbh these cars at this price is imho better than FN2R ;)

joek
17-10-2007, 12:48 AM
yes yes they are good example for a cheap cheap EP3 .....
so from now on is till think my one is worht for wht i pay for .....

9xxxxk's and 7xxxxk's....landed + complied + on road will be around $25k to $26k

good for it value and good for wht it is !!!!

i will upload those slip once i got a scaner....hahaha!!!!

SuperSteve
17-10-2007, 09:56 PM
yeah show us these times im interested in knowing :D might get coilovers on my ep3 to get that time :D

dunho0724
19-10-2007, 03:33 AM
i got a fd driving a white EP3 and a GTR-R34 V-spec2 in midnight-purple.

what u saw with a pink plate is it? if yes it should be him

Nepolian
20-10-2007, 09:22 PM
yes yes they are good example for a cheap cheap EP3 .....
so from now on is till think my one is worht for wht i pay for .....

9xxxxk's and 7xxxxk's....landed + complied + on road will be around $25k to $26k

good for it value and good for wht it is !!!!

i will upload those slip once i got a scaner....hahaha!!!!

IMO, you get what you pay for. Everyone wants a straight car with low kms at the lowest price. In reality if it was that easy, everyone would have one.

If you wanna pay $25k, find one yourself, take the risk and get it. But dont complain about this and that guy who has ripped you off when it goes wrong.

With imports, I have always bout one which is in the country, purely so that you can see it so that there is no suprises.

Good friend of mine bought a GTR a couple of years ago through an importer. Had all the photos in the wolrd looked great from every angle.

When he got it and realised that the photos were taken a year or two prior to delivery, when it was glammed up. Im sure you guys catch my drift.

I am not trying to put a dampener on anything or anyone, just wanna share what little wisdom I have. :)

bennjamin
20-10-2007, 09:34 PM
Nope!

I think any street car under 14sec is quick. Especially an N/A which is almost stock.

I'm quite surprised about the time though? That is alot quicker than I think it is?

Stab in the dark here, but do DC5's with I/H/E get this kind of time??

13.97 for a stockish EP3 is quick. but from someone who doesnt know if its quick or not is alittle debateable. Did you use a GTECH timer ? OR is this @ the actual 1/4 mile ?

joek
21-10-2007, 01:03 AM
did it at HEATHCOTE mate.... yes... coz for me 13.97 is not that quick for me ..... maybe coz i used to be a turbo owner, don't know much about the NA timings....
I think on the day of drag, there was a couple of honda people around too. They were all amazing about the "stock" speed.

eriktufa
21-10-2007, 01:30 AM
Time slip please, stock 1/4 mile for dc5r in jap is 14.4 , I really doubt ep3r can get 13.97 in stock form even with coilover plus we only get 98ron fuel here not 100.

joek
21-10-2007, 01:40 AM
wait give me few more day to upload since i didnt got a scaner at home :) P

joek
24-10-2007, 04:25 PM
hi as all ppl request here is the time slip.....

feel free to do some compare and this will lead all of us to get imporvment!

ennavoli
24-10-2007, 04:50 PM
hi as all ppl request here is the time slip.....

feel free to do some compare and this will lead all of us to get imporvment!

Good job, this will silence all those who had doubt the EP3R. :thumbsup:

With lightweight rims plus some slicks, you might be able to bring the time slightly down.

Nepolian
25-10-2007, 04:27 PM
Great time. Good going. Must have driven it well too :)

Any other EP's who has gone down the track.

Hey Syd EP3's! lets organise to go to WSID sometime?

mrwillz
25-10-2007, 06:16 PM
Time slip please, stock 1/4 mile for dc5r in jap is 14.4 , I really doubt ep3r can get 13.97 in stock form even with coilover plus we only get 98ron fuel here not 100.

say sorry

Chi
25-10-2007, 06:30 PM
Time slip please, stock 1/4 mile for dc5r in jap is 14.4 , I really doubt ep3r can get 13.97 in stock form even with coilover plus we only get 98ron fuel here not 100.


well Ive seen a guy at WSID with a AUDM DC5R run 14 flat custom intake and exhaust.


And since the EP3R is lighter and 20kws more power.

I dont find it hard to believe.

Witht eh right driver its possible.

SuperSteve
25-10-2007, 07:37 PM
yeah fellas we should organise a meet up seeing most of u blokes live in sydney and we should take pictures and show off our sexy ep3 :D coz they are more sexier looking then dc5 :D hahahaha
by the way nice times. u must b good driver :D

ennavoli
25-10-2007, 08:55 PM
Time slip please, stock 1/4 mile for dc5r in jap is 14.4 , I really doubt ep3r can get 13.97 in stock form even with coilover plus we only get 98ron fuel here not 100.

Why not you doubt this? http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=7-MqNKLl0mk&mode=related&search=

Have you even ever driven one or taken a JDM EP3 round a race track? If no, I suggest you try one before you misfire again. :wave:

xtercii
25-10-2007, 09:08 PM
By reading the slip it says 2.3 60ft time, so by dropping it to 2.0 does it mean it has the potential to do low to mid 13s bone stock?

mugsee
25-10-2007, 09:10 PM
well as for a reply about a few post back....i did try on1/4 mile with my ep3
stock everything just with a set of coilovers....13.97 0-400m
is that a good time or not.....
but this time to me is quick.....may be u guys think is slow.....

I don't mean to rain on your parade and detract from what is an outstanding 1/4 mile run for a 2L NA, but your car wasn't stock. Your car ran with toda headers, a custom cai feed, no muffler, deflated tyres and folded in mirrors.

Regardless of the (minor) mods, the EP3R was very quick and the driver was equally awesome as well. Well done on the great time. :thumbsup:

bennjamin
25-10-2007, 09:12 PM
By reading the slip it says 2.3 60ft time, so by dropping it to 2.0 does it mean it has the potential to do low to mid 13s bone stock?

i doubt it.
2.3 aint too good at all - this is the 1/4 mile of a noob in a turobed car lol.
BTW a DC5 doing flat 14's - would be atleast stripped interior and also semi slick tyres. A difference :)

IMO with worse fuel here in OZ there is no way a stock EP3 would do 13.97.

bennjamin
25-10-2007, 09:13 PM
*EDIT*

lol @ post 59.

SHAME on you joek.

Nepolian
25-10-2007, 09:22 PM
I don't mean to rain on your parade and detract from what is an outstanding 1/4 mile run for a 2L NA, but your car wasn't stock. Your car ran with toda headers, a custom cai feed, no muffler, deflated tyres and folded in mirrors.

Regardless of the (minor) mods, the EP3R was very quick and the driver was equally awesome as well. Well done on the great time. :thumbsup:

"Toda headers, a custom cai feed, no muffler, deflated tyres and folded in mirrors."

If my EP3 could go sub 14sec with only these mods, I wouldnt be complaining.

They're not exactly the most hi-tech cheat mods are they? But I suppose your car wasnt "stock" in that sense. In saying that how many cars out there can do under 14 sec with basically I/H/E.

Dont most people deflate their tyres when they go to the track. So if I took my car to the track and ran with my tyres deflated, does that mean my car is not stock??

Anyway Joek, still a very good time.

:D :D Folded in mirrors :D :D

Call the cops!!!

eriktufa
25-10-2007, 09:53 PM
There you go, that explained perfectly why you ran 13.97 if it was stock I'll apologise but your car is far from stock.

joek
25-10-2007, 10:51 PM
Hi guys, thank you for all the comment, i donno if 13.97 is good or not since i am a turbo car owner, i was always in 11sec range....

i am newbie on Civic so i was shock because you guys tell me that 13.97 is NOT right for a EP3..

also for folden mirror and deflated tyres is consider modification and will increase the time on the drag racing.

i took off the muffler, i do admit (everyone know) because i order a muffler from japan but they just delay on arrivial. so i need to take off the muffler to gain some Vtec noise (not for gain the power), i am so happy that now i leart something because i have a new calculation....Took off muffler + air filter + deflated SLIPPY tyres X folded mirror X Newbie FF Driver = 13.97 (but with 2.3 second launge)

i am think what if i mod my car and i didnt meant to be rude(REALLY NO OFFENCE) if simply changing to the car can came up a time that everyone asking for a time slip, i do suggest ppl in here buy EP3 instead of modding a lot on a K20A ADM version

and i am glad that i dont have to spend more money on my car now since the time is consider (not too bad from you guys comment)

thank you very much, and hope to meet up sometime for coffee we can check out our car as well.......

joek
25-10-2007, 10:53 PM
dear mugsee

thats fine ^_^ you got a nice car too! hope to see you around sometime

eriktufa: i do apologize because we have different standards on modification
but i think if i return my car with muffler it will still gonna be similar

maybe 0.2-0.3sec +/-

since i am using standard muffler at the moment, apart from vtec noise is gone...others are the same...

or else you can try to take off the muffer give it a go, and it may be a new solution of making the car faster

kongfu
26-10-2007, 06:06 PM
dear mugsee

thats fine ^_^ you got a nice car too! hope to see you around sometime

eriktufa: i do apologize because we have different standards on modification
but i think if i return my car with muffler it will still gonna be similar

maybe 0.2-0.3sec +/-

since i am using standard muffler at the moment, apart from vtec noise is gone...others are the same...

or else you can try to take off the muffer give it a go, and it may be a new solution of making the car faster

:thumbsup:wave:

bennjamin
26-10-2007, 06:47 PM
eriktufa: i do apologize because we have different standards on modification
but i think if i return my car with muffler it will still gonna be similar


please return it to totally stock (and full interior) and normal road tyres and get a 1/4.
Otherwise ANY modification makes your car something not to brag about

civic_mods
26-10-2007, 07:51 PM
if i didn't remember wrongly it did run on full interior, brand new re001 with a lot of front cambers

egads
26-10-2007, 09:45 PM
quick question sydney fellas, what sort of insurance premiums are you paying?

Chris_typer
27-10-2007, 09:57 AM
around 2g's for my FN2..and thats under my fathers name, with my name on the policy..if i went on my own it would be like 4g's. so yeh fk that..what you paying?

joek
27-10-2007, 10:45 AM
bennjamin (Moderator), i donno if you are being rude to me or not, but you make me feel like you not welcome me to this forum because i done a 13.97 on my car....

thank you for your comment, if there was anyone on the day (heathcote drag) they will know what i was doing on my car...

and so many ppl told me Bad things about ozhonda. i do feel that now. People like you not helping out people

is become judging ppl, i never rude to anyone i was questioning if 13.97 is consider a good time for K20s, but ppl(or 1 or 2 fellows) in here keep dont believe me or giving me sxxt comment, i better off leaving here and being a spectators forever

but if you guys want to have more members on this forum

Try to reconsider..this website is to Group the Hondas, but judging others people because your car is not faster than others ...blarblarblar right?

then that mean you guys not welcome anyone with slower NON-VTEC engine and being rude on the roads.?
whoever have ozhondas sticker you guys will drag him and blar blar blar blaming him that with taking parts off the car and the car is faster?

i always said above, I AM************* NOW********************* USING STANDARD MUFFLER AT THE MOMENT, i dont feel like the car have big different
maybe it will be slower like 0.2-0.3 second!

also i DID say, you can try to take off the muffler to try if the car is faster and drag yourself in a track
to see if YOU car can gain 1 SECOND or 0.5 second on the drag.

again, i DIDNT feel like my time is GOOD because all my friends beside me have EGs they do much faster!
even they take a STOCK DC2 type R B18C can do 14.4 in calder park! ...

if you need to blame,,i think better of blame the DRIVER dont blame about deflated tyres or folded mirror..isnt it...SORRY for my comment, This will be my Last post if you guys(even the moderator) not WELCOME me...!

90LAN
27-10-2007, 11:22 AM
ahh dont worry mate just let your car do the talking
most ppl talk shit on here but wouldnt do it to your face at meets or in the public
do some more mods so they cant complain it is a stock car ........

philBo
27-10-2007, 11:51 AM
ahh dont worry mate just let your car do the talking
most ppl talk shit on here but wouldnt do it to your face at meets or in the public
do some more mods so they cant complain it is a stock car ........

agreed. its just an internet forum, no need to take things so personally.:thumbsup::thumbsup:

ennavoli
27-10-2007, 01:10 PM
ahh dont worry mate just let your car do the talking
most ppl talk shit on here but wouldnt do it to your face at meets or in the public
do some more mods so they cant complain it is a stock car ........

Exactly, could not agree more with the above. Keep improving your car and your driving and don't bother about the whining going on.

DreadAngel
27-10-2007, 02:07 PM
quick question sydney fellas, what sort of insurance premiums are you paying?

For a EP3R landed and complied for $22,500, you're looking at $1880 comprehensive (Thats for a 23 year old Male with about 4 years clean record, Hills Area)

kongfu
27-10-2007, 03:31 PM
bennjamin (Moderator), i donno if you are being rude to me or not, but you make me feel like you not welcome me to this forum because i done a 13.97 on my car....

thank you for your comment, if there was anyone on the day (heathcote drag) they will know what i was doing on my car...

and so many ppl told me Bad things about ozhonda. i do feel that now. People like you not helping out people

is become judging ppl, i never rude to anyone i was questioning if 13.97 is consider a good time for K20s, but ppl(or 1 or 2 fellows) in here keep dont believe me or giving me sxxt comment, i better off leaving here and being a spectators forever

but if you guys want to have more members on this forum

Try to reconsider..this website is to Group the Hondas, but judging others people because your car is not faster than others ...blarblarblar right?

then that mean you guys not welcome anyone with slower NON-VTEC engine and being rude on the roads.?
whoever have ozhondas sticker you guys will drag him and blar blar blar blaming him that with taking parts off the car and the car is faster?

i always said above, I AM************* NOW********************* USING STANDARD MUFFLER AT THE MOMENT, i dont feel like the car have big different
maybe it will be slower like 0.2-0.3 second!

also i DID say, you can try to take off the muffler to try if the car is faster and drag yourself in a track
to see if YOU car can gain 1 SECOND or 0.5 second on the drag.

again, i DIDNT feel like my time is GOOD because all my friends beside me have EGs they do much faster!
even they take a STOCK DC2 type R B18C can do 14.4 in calder park! ...

if you need to blame,,i think better of blame the DRIVER dont blame about deflated tyres or folded mirror..isnt it...SORRY for my comment, This will be my Last post if you guys(even the moderator) not WELCOME me...!


Just ignore those aggressive ppl mate!:cool: I think they've just being jealous abt your EP3.

Take it easy and enjoy your ride!:thumbsup::wave:

aaronng
27-10-2007, 05:21 PM
joek, have you tried the 1/4 mile using the stock header? I know someone with a stock EP3R that pulled 13.9 on the 1/4 mile, but that was with flatshifting.

Shaun
27-10-2007, 06:44 PM
For a EP3R landed and complied for $22,500, you're looking at $1880 comprehensive (Thats for a 23 year old Male with about 4 years clean record, Hills Area)

where are these 22.5k EP3s?!

DreadAngel
27-10-2007, 07:09 PM
J-Spec (Found a few here that aren't on the mailing list ;))
Prestige Motorsport (Some around the 22K, some around 25K, landed and complied I'm guessing)
Iron Chef Import

The others I've seen are about 28K - 35K so yeah, I don't think so...

Lol, get this (even if its not on the SEVS I'm pretty sure) Link (http://www.prestigemotorsport.com.au/dealerstock.php?carID=33669)

But like any Import, what you see is just a selection of what they have, make personal contact with them to see what they have that the general public don't see :)

bennjamin
27-10-2007, 08:57 PM
i apologize if i come across angry on teh interweb , Joek - blunt as I am I wish everyone would state the real picture about their car before getting everyone excited ;)

Here you go - to make up for my "plain angry" comments before

:):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):)

Now get down to the 1/4mile again and see what your car can pull or get some consistencies

mugsee
27-10-2007, 09:18 PM
Joek forgot to tell us about the headers. A mistake on his behalf, however he's acknowledged this and even gone to lengths to offer an apology; People need to stop hating and move on.

EP3R's are seriously quick cars and it certainly took most people by suprise at Heathcote. Regardless that the car wasn't 'stock', 13.97 for a NA 2.0L in a fat car like a EP3 is quick by most standards.

Any other plans for the car joek?

Nepolian
27-10-2007, 11:38 PM
Hey Joek, All forums are like this. There are people criticise to be constructive and those who dont have anything better to do. People need to drive an EP3 to understand the potential that these things have.

I come from a background of Soarers, Supras and GTRs. Trust me I go just as excited when I got the EP3 as when I got my GTR.

This is my first performance FWD and Im glad I got it.

Joek made an honest mistake and took it like a man admitted to it and we move on.

Someone PLEASE post a time with a near stock EP3 to quieten the doubters.

egads
28-10-2007, 10:34 AM
Someone PLEASE post a time with a near stock EP3 to quieten the doubters.



joek, have you tried the 1/4 mile using the stock header? I know someone with a stock EP3R that pulled 13.9 on the 1/4 mile, but that was with flatshifting.


still a stock car, flatshifting or not. good time :thumbsup:

aaronng
28-10-2007, 12:50 PM
still a stock car, flatshifting or not. good time :thumbsup:

I forgot to add, the rims were not stock though. Lightweight rims do give a big advantage on the 1/4 mile.

Nepolian
28-10-2007, 01:32 PM
joek, have you tried the 1/4 mile using the stock header? I know someone with a stock EP3R that pulled 13.9 on the 1/4 mile, but that was with flatshifting.

Have you guys seen the stock headers on the EP3? I just had mine changed recently and probably wished I'd spent the money on something else. They look better and are probably better than some aftermarket headers.

Chris_typer
28-10-2007, 01:33 PM
Yeah i agree, dont take wat everyone says on here as gospel..everyones entitled to there own opinion and aloud to do what ever they want to there cars.

ennavoli
28-10-2007, 04:04 PM
Have you guys seen the stock headers on the EP3? I just had mine changed recently and probably wished I'd spent the money on something else. They look better and are probably better than some aftermarket headers.

It depends on what headers u changed to. What brand did you go for or did u custom make one?

Nepolian
28-10-2007, 04:35 PM
It depends on what headers u changed to. What brand did you go for or did u custom make one?

TODA, what I meant was that I probably should have put the money towards a K-Pro or similar.

ennavoli
28-10-2007, 06:20 PM
TODA, what I meant was that I probably should have put the money towards a K-Pro or similar.

Depends again. If you use the car for tracks, you will be able to realise the difference. TODA headers gives more pull throughout in the power band. If you use this car mainly on the streets, then yes, I agree the difference cannot really be felt by shifting at 3k to 4k RPM.

aaronng
28-10-2007, 06:42 PM
The primaries on the toda are probably longer than the ones on the EP3R. Also, the stainless steel is probably thinner than the steel used in the stock headers, thus giving a larger internal diameter for more flow even if the external diameter of both headers are similar.

eriktufa
28-10-2007, 07:16 PM
dear mugsee

thats fine ^_^ you got a nice car too! hope to see you around sometime

eriktufa: i do apologize because we have different standards on modification
but i think if i return my car with muffler it will still gonna be similar

maybe 0.2-0.3sec +/-

since i am using standard muffler at the moment, apart from vtec noise is gone...others are the same...

or else you can try to take off the muffer give it a go, and it may be a new solution of making the car faster

No worries :D

I still believe you will hit 14.5 without anything, much better than stock aud dc5r or audm dc5s.

I have sat in jdm ep3r before with mods and it's a nice and awesome car :D

aaronng
28-10-2007, 07:54 PM
I think Best Motoring tested the JDM EP3R and DC5R (pre-facelift) and they commented that the EP3R had faster straight line acceleration than the DC5R eventhough it was down on 5ps.

causeraybay
28-10-2007, 08:05 PM
ennavoli: dude! your details genuine? EP3 owner in melb! show meeee!! :)

ennavoli
28-10-2007, 08:09 PM
ennavoli: dude! your details genuine? EP3 owner in melb! show meeee!! :)

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=75136&page=8 - With the gramlights.

I am not the only owner, JOEK also has EP3.

mrwillz
28-10-2007, 09:00 PM
i seen it in the flesh
i mite've had a accident as well
made it a better white`

ennavoli
28-10-2007, 10:11 PM
i seen it in the flesh
i mite've had a accident as well
made it a better white`

lol, that's cause I wash it! :)

You better be careful, I am after your 5zigen rims.

causeraybay
28-10-2007, 10:31 PM
yeah i heard about joek too but i'd always thought he was a syd-sider. u must feel pretty damn unique in particular if u pulled up against a dc5r or fd2 at the lights :p cant wait to see it in person

how long was the process; from the moment of purchase it til when u were legally able to drive it??

ennavoli
29-10-2007, 07:44 AM
yeah i heard about joek too but i'd always thought he was a syd-sider. u must feel pretty damn unique in particular if u pulled up against a dc5r or fd2 at the lights :p cant wait to see it in person

how long was the process; from the moment of purchase it til when u were legally able to drive it??

I bought it cause I liked it and I wanted a good track/ weekend car, not cause I felt it was unique. :) I was actually leaning towards an EVO 7 but for the sake of maintenance/mods/insurance and a 2 door, I got the EP3.

The process was pretty time consuming, I bought it back in late December '06, so about 6 months of waiting.

Anyhow everything turned out alright. :thumbsup:

Nepolian
29-10-2007, 09:12 AM
Sydney EP3 Guys. Let have a meet and greet one night? Doesnt have to be a long meet up. Where are you guys at??

I know that,

NightRyder = Hills

Me = Northshore

Chris_typer
29-10-2007, 11:36 AM
Should have a sydney EP3 and FN2 meet up..be good to see

xtercii
29-10-2007, 11:48 AM
I think Best Motoring tested the JDM EP3R and DC5R (pre-facelift) and they commented that the EP3R had faster straight line acceleration than the DC5R eventhough it was down on 5ps.

I once saw a Best Motoring clip which they had dc5r ep3r and few other cars racing, on a main straight the dc5r was slowly pulling a way and they commented that the dc5r had 5 exta hp.

bennjamin
29-10-2007, 12:30 PM
I once saw a Best Motoring clip which they had dc5r ep3r and few other cars racing, on a main straight the dc5r was slowly pulling a way and they commented that the dc5r had 5 exta hp.

i dont think 5 extra HP , where ever in the range will make your car slowly pull away from another car.

Can someone clarify the weight , FD and each gearset of each EP3 vs JDM DC5R ?

SuperSteve
29-10-2007, 04:10 PM
yeah im up for a meet up with my ep3. I live abit west though hehe fairfield

aaronng
29-10-2007, 04:18 PM
I once saw a Best Motoring clip which they had dc5r ep3r and few other cars racing, on a main straight the dc5r was slowly pulling a way and they commented that the dc5r had 5 exta hp.
^^ That was probably because the DC5R exited the corner at a slightly higher speed.

The one I saw was in the K20A comparo, where they were accelerating away from 0km/h at the start, more relevant for 0-400m times. The EP3 got up to 3rd gear 8300rpm before needing to brake. :)

aaronng
29-10-2007, 04:25 PM
i dont think 5 extra HP , where ever in the range will make your car slowly pull away from another car.

Can someone clarify the weight , FD and each gearset of each EP3 vs JDM DC5R ?

EP3R
Weight: 1190kg (1210kg with aircon)
Ratios:
1st: 3.266
2nd: 2.130
3rd: 1.517
4th: 1.212
5th: 0.972
6th: 0.780
Final: 4.764

DC5R
Weight: 1180kg (1190kg with aircon)
Ratios:
1st: 3.266
2nd: 2.130
3rd: 1.517
4th: 1.212
5th: 0.972
6th: 0.780
Final: 4.764

Looks like the JDM models are very similar.

Edit: Specs were taken from Honda.co.jp's website (DC5R is the facelifted model). But the EP3R is meant to be lighter than the DC5R...:confused:

xtercii
29-10-2007, 04:39 PM
^^ That was probably because the DC5R exited the corner at a slightly higher speed.

The one I saw was in the K20A comparo, where they were accelerating away from 0km/h at the start, more relevant for 0-400m times. The EP3 got up to 3rd gear 8300rpm before needing to brake. :)


That could be the case, English subtitle sometime is misleading.

IZY-10
29-10-2007, 04:47 PM
seen a clip i think on youtube where all the type r's and s2000 race around a track. EP3 does the quickest times around the track. Not only is it lighter than the dc5r but it has more power than the audm dc5r

Chris_typer
29-10-2007, 06:18 PM
yeah im up for a meet up with my ep3. I live abit west though hehe fairfield

hahah bro fairfield...horsley representtt

SuperSteve
29-10-2007, 07:41 PM
hahaha im in bossley park to be precise

Nepolian
30-10-2007, 07:14 AM
Yeah FN and EP, that should get the numbers up! Im easyon where to meet. Sydney's not that big. By the sounds of it probably in the Ryde area or something.

Chris_typer
30-10-2007, 05:26 PM
Yeah ryde is not bad...ill pm some fn2 boys see if there up for it...give us a pm on wat u got planned.

SuperSteve
30-10-2007, 08:55 PM
hey ep3 owners. Hey have any of u blokes taken the uk badge off the back door hatch ?? im thinking of taking it off looks kinda gay hehe or does anyone reckon it looks good left on ??

Nepolian
30-10-2007, 09:18 PM
hey ep3 owners. Hey have any of u blokes taken the uk badge off the back door hatch ?? im thinking of taking it off looks kinda gay hehe or does anyone reckon it looks good left on ??

I think it looks kinda cool. Adds to the authenticity of the car :p

egads
30-10-2007, 10:57 PM
uk-jdm haha

or better yet, expand the badge add some stars and make it look like an australian flag

Nepolian
30-10-2007, 11:30 PM
uk-jdm haha

or better yet, expand the badge add some stars and make it look like an australian flag

What has Australia have to do with the car??

JDM80Y
31-10-2007, 02:25 PM
I think it looks kinda cool. Adds to the authenticity of the car :p

Yeah I agree.. the UK badge does look pretty cool... although slightly confusing...

Do you think if people wait a while for more EP3's to come here... it might get cheaper?? remember the time when Nissan GT R34's came out.. they were like so freaken expensive (between40K-50K).. but now you could pick up a GTT for like 25k in manual...and there are heaps of them around in sydney these days too!

Nepolian
31-10-2007, 04:07 PM
Yeah I agree.. the UK badge does look pretty cool... although slightly confusing...

Do you think if people wait a while for more EP3's to come here... it might get cheaper?? remember the time when Nissan GT R34's came out.. they were like so freaken expensive (between40K-50K).. but now you could pick up a GTT for like 25k in manual...and there are heaps of them around in sydney these days too!

Yeah of course, as with everything. But remember, myself and all the current EP3 owners get to have and drive the car for 6 - 12 month before the people who wait.

All down to when you want it.?

SuperSteve
31-10-2007, 04:22 PM
heheh yeah i might leave the uk badge on the car then i guess it doesnt look that bad after all. just quick question now for all the ep3 owners. if the car has been imported from japan then its definately got lsd and all the other jap mods that the uk base model doesnt have correct ?? is there anyway i can tell mine is the jap version and not the uk version ?? i heard about looking at the vin for jdm but since my car is imported and been comlied etc the vin number bad been changed to some really long number now. is there anything else that the japanese model got that the uk didnt have that i can look for ?? or is there anyway to tell if there is a lsd ?? im worried i got the uk crap ep3

Shaun
31-10-2007, 04:33 PM
apparently only the jap models had the uk flag on it

bennjamin
31-10-2007, 04:51 PM
apparently only the jap models had the uk flag on it

yup only jap models came with the brit flag. But it dosent matter as its easily removed and all of these CTR's are made in the UK anway correct ?

BTW any EP3's in Oz would be from japan , unless privately imported by the owner from the uk

Nepolian
31-10-2007, 05:37 PM
I'm sure all EP3's in Australia is from Japan. I dont think it would be financially viable to get EP3's out of the UK.

bennjamin
31-10-2007, 07:04 PM
thats what i just suggested lol .

SuperSteve
31-10-2007, 07:06 PM
ehhehe well im hope it is the jap version, i dont wanna b stuck with the uk version ek :\ im paranoid now >_<

Nepolian
31-10-2007, 07:21 PM
thats what i just suggested lol .

Didnt see your post?? Cool so we agree :)

todaek9
31-10-2007, 07:52 PM
there is a ep3 05 model for sale in Melb...who wants it!!..haha...slurp...

IZY-10
31-10-2007, 08:37 PM
uk badge is there because they are designed in the UK i think

egads
31-10-2007, 09:36 PM
uk badge is there because they are designed in the UK i think

all built in the uk. as stated in previous posts.

Nepolian
01-11-2007, 07:28 AM
ehhehe well im hope it is the jap version, i dont wanna b stuck with the uk version ek :\ im paranoid now >_<

Just remembered that apart form the lsd, cams, ecu etc....only the jap EP3R had "TYPE R" logo on the front calipers. I knew there was something obvious I've forgotten to mention!!

Super Steve you can rest your mind at ease :)

thelittleblackbox
01-11-2007, 07:38 AM
there is another 01/02 for sale in syd at nagoya motors in taren point. the car on there is like 29k but they sell them around 25k if you actually walk in the door.

Nepolian
01-11-2007, 11:42 AM
Hey guys, do you have factory remote central locking? If so, does it wotk? Cause the drivers side on mine dont work?

Also were your fog lights unplugged as well?

NightRyder
03-11-2007, 10:01 PM
I've got a factory remote on mine, but since installing an alarm I don't use it but use the alarm remote.

My foggies came all hooked up..Ion yellow too..hehe :)

Nepolian
03-11-2007, 10:25 PM
I've got a factory remote on mine, but since installing an alarm I don't use it but use the alarm remote.

My foggies came all hooked up..Ion yellow too..hehe :)

Did the central locking work with the remote tho. As in the drivers side. My drivers side dont go up and down.

Did you have to put a slave motor in to move it??

Thanks

NightRyder
03-11-2007, 10:31 PM
No, mine worked fine.

Shaun
04-11-2007, 10:50 AM
fog lights would be unhooked or removed to comply with ADRs, but most imports yards re install them afterwards b4 they sell em.

Nepolian
05-11-2007, 08:19 AM
The foggies have been hooked up now. Man it was an effort getting to the wires. Cant be bothered trying to figure out how to fix the central locking. Just hook up a new one with a new alarm too. But if anyone has any ideas, pls share?

Just went for a drive in my car without the muffler! Man is it so much more responsive. The mid range increase was massive. I know it wont last obviously due to new exhaust fitment.

Also I was quite surprised the exhaust note at that it is not so tinny like most 4cyls. This is my first N/A performance car since my first car, which was a Corolla :P

Let you know how it goes.

NightRyder - How you going with yours?

SuperSteve
05-11-2007, 06:54 PM
wow nice nepolian. Im still sussing out what i should get done to my ep3 but the amount of money u have to pay for a good exhaust system with extractors is scary hahaha hmm i might just upgrade the intake first i supose. k&n good for ep3 u guys reckon ? or what would u guys recommend for ep3 ??

Nepolian
05-11-2007, 08:13 PM
Yeah, the exhaust isnt cheap but I'm lucky in that I have some bit left around from my other cars.

The way I see is that the intake will only work well if you have an exhaust. If you cant get out what you put in then it doesnt work.

Honestly after seeing the extractors that came out of the EP3, its probably better not to upgrade them as they are quite expensive and the originals ones are quite good. Spend the money on the exhaust.....ie. high flow cat and good cat back.

Hey Steve, I have this for sale if you want it.

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=78302

I'm installing an TRUST SRI which I had from my Soarer.

NightRyder
05-11-2007, 10:00 PM
woohoo!...slowly getting a group of ep3 owners growing...hehe

Nepolian, my car is going well..still stock atm as I'm thinking of purchasing a new ride to work that has two wheels...hehe... :P

Also thinking of getting a new stero deck for my car since the one in there atm is making squeaking sounds when playing CD. :(

You guys recommend any new decks?..

Then I am going to save up for an intake, then exhaust..

egads
06-11-2007, 02:48 PM
Nepolian: how did you find the trust filter compared to stock?

Nepolian
06-11-2007, 07:43 PM
Dont think it did much for me as the car was dead stock. I am sure it would make a difference when an exhaust is installed.

SuperSteve
06-11-2007, 09:22 PM
hey anyone know if the ep3 can go over 180klms/hr or is the computer wont let it pass that ? just realised 2day that speedometer only goes to 180 so im thinking that japan put the limiter on it.

NightRyder
06-11-2007, 09:56 PM
what??..u planning to drive 180km/h + some where?..hehe..gee..u're keen.

No, i think if it passes 180 it will just stay on it until you reduce speed..don't think it would be limited..


hey anyone know if the ep3 can go over 180klms/hr or is the computer wont let it pass that ? just realised 2day that speedometer only goes to 180 so im thinking that japan put the limiter on it.

aaronng
06-11-2007, 10:15 PM
Probably limited to 180km/h as required by Japan regulations. It's a fuel cut off I think.

Nepolian
06-11-2007, 10:24 PM
Probably limited to 180km/h as required by Japan regulations. It's a fuel cut off I think.

Yeah, I think Kpros and that lifts the limiter. Cant c where in Sydney you can do that these days? May be on the track :)

SuperSteve
06-11-2007, 10:26 PM
but car is build in uk hmmm im just thinking for 1/4 runs what would happen thats all :\ hmmmm

DreadAngel
07-11-2007, 11:08 AM
Car was built in the UK yes but exported to Japan and Honda Japan do their modifications to it to be legal over there that means 180km/h limiter :p

Just get something like the SLD if your not changing ECU if you want to blast past the 180km/h limit ;)

Philip Lee
07-11-2007, 12:15 PM
Car was built in the UK yes but exported to Japan and Honda Japan do their modifications to it to be legal over there that means 180km/h limiter :p

i'd have thought the cars were built in UK for Jdm spec rather than converting once they get over to Japan.

just like we get our cars in our spec straight from Japan or wherever.

aaronng
07-11-2007, 02:14 PM
i'd have thought the cars were built in UK for Jdm spec rather than converting once they get over to Japan.

just like we get our cars in our spec straight from Japan or wherever.

The engines are made in japan. It doesn't make sense sending the engines over to the UK, only to have them sent back to Japan.

albert107
14-11-2007, 12:23 AM
Its cost that much beacuse it is RARE.
Very sharpe car ... Powered to own one !

albert107
14-11-2007, 12:25 AM
UK Honda manufactured badge has been issued every EP3.
I believed EP3 half / half between UK and Japan.

Philip Lee
14-11-2007, 10:37 AM
just like most modern cars where parts are sourced from many different countries.

EP3 was no exception as it was assembled in UK in different specs for different markets.

Nepolian
12-12-2007, 08:48 PM
Hi all EP3 owners here. Just went to the Ozhonda drag night and did a 13.9 on my second run......FYI :)

SuperSteve
12-12-2007, 09:46 PM
wow very nice nepolian. what mods have u got ??

Oh by the way any ep3 owners here that was driving through coogee beach last saturday night. I saw 1 drive past along the road that goes along the beach. It had nice exhaust and carbon fiber bonet.

Nepolian
13-12-2007, 07:33 AM
Carbon bonnet is definitely too cool for me :) :)

Only change it for looks as the factory ones are already aluminium.

SuperSteve, I have SRI with an Apexi filter, Toda headers and custom 2.5 catback.

Could'nt go any harder as the rear engine mount shat itself and engine kept jumpin.

You guys should come out the next time round! It was great fun, my first time for about 6 years.

SuperSteve
13-12-2007, 04:38 PM
crap thats no good about the engine mount mate. can u get hold of a engine mount here or u gotta get it imported in ? also wow nice mods there mate :) ive still got stock at the moment :( no money to upgrade.

also where did u get ur parts from if u dont mind me asking and how much all up ?

my god i want to mod my car its just to quiet hahahaha

NightRyder
13-12-2007, 09:56 PM
Nicccccceeeeeeeeee!!.....Nepoli...... :D

I'm guessing stock would give around 14-15 secs??


Hi all EP3 owners here. Just went to the Ozhonda drag night and did a 13.9 on my second run......FYI :)

r-r-redEuro
14-12-2007, 12:03 PM
hey ep3 owners, the ep3 has caught my eye since im looking for a manual car to drive but ive noticed that there was a facelift ? 2005 model ? whats the difference in between the two ? and does the previous 05 model have 16" instead of 17" or are they all 16" rims ?

ennavoli
14-12-2007, 06:17 PM
hey ep3 owners, the ep3 has caught my eye since im looking for a manual car to drive but ive noticed that there was a facelift ? 2005 model ? whats the difference in between the two ? and does the previous 05 model have 16" instead of 17" or are they all 16" rims ?

Face lift model has changes to the front suspension geometry to minimise understeer reported in the preface lift version. Face lift also has a lightened flywheel compared to the preface lift version. Other than that, the tail lights and front lights are also different on the facelift as they have "altezza rear lights" and projector front headlights.

Both uses 17" wheels, there was never a 16" rim for the JDM EP3.

SuperSteve
15-12-2007, 01:04 AM
dam i got the 2002 model. i wonder if there is must difference in power between the 2002 and facelift.. i wonder if there a lil difference with the lighter flywheel at all and the improved suspension.

also the facelifted version has 2 tone (black and red) racaros seats

and also foglights

Nepolian
15-12-2007, 08:31 AM
Mine has foggies?? Same performance from engine as far as I know.

ennavoli
15-12-2007, 01:39 PM
dam i got the 2002 model. i wonder if there is must difference in power between the 2002 and facelift.. i wonder if there a lil difference with the lighter flywheel at all and the improved suspension.

also the facelifted version has 2 tone (black and red) racaros seats

and also foglights

Same power output, but lightened flywheel helps alittle in 0-100m sprints or 1/4 mile, only slightly though.

I driven a 2005 model and the clutch and lift off seems lighter than my 2002 model.

Whereas for the improved suspension, IMHO the difference is minimal if there is any at all. 2002 model's tail end is very lively and so is 2005 model.

I guess the better way to compare the 2 is on the tracks. For a lousy driver like me maybe there isn't much difference but I would suspect between 2 professionals, the 2005 model will be sliiiiiiightly quicker on the track, but not by much. (stock vs stock)

Nepolian
15-12-2007, 11:31 PM
Jack all difference if you're gonna mod it tho!

SuperSteve
16-12-2007, 12:56 AM
hehehe meh im pretty happy with my 2002 model though the facelift version has better headlights and tail lights.

But yeah my 2002 is stock and still goes like a rocket im pretty happy with it hehe :) cant wait to take it on a track run :D:D

EGBOY
16-12-2007, 01:03 PM
ran my car at calder on fri night didn't go to bad considering it was damn hot..
temp on track was 37degrees
ran a best time of 14.38
not to bad considering it is bone stock..how i picked it up a week and a half ago...absolutley no mods at all
still getting used to the car how it launches etc but basically just wanted to set a time as a bench mark for my mods to come
still quite happy with the result

SuperSteve
16-12-2007, 08:34 PM
wow good job EGBOY nice time :)
yeah im still getting use to clutch on the ep3 its amazing. Im still stalling the car and sometimes crunching gears hehehe i better ease up hehe the shifting is heaps different and so tight and spot on campared to my previous car the sss n15. ep3 is a pleasure to drive

Nepolian
17-12-2007, 07:13 AM
Good time EGBOY. Thats about what I would expect for a stocker. DC5's run bout 14.2 with intake and catback.

It'll sound better when you do the intake :)

EGBOY
17-12-2007, 09:38 AM
yeah, i did it as a base to improve upon..
before many mods go ahead..
quad throttle bodies on their way from states as we speak as is a new set of lightweight rims, hopefully they get here by christmas!

future plans
K-pro (to run quads)
avon slicks or something similar
coilover..

then a head package like bc style need to up the power a bit.. :P

Mattski_VTIR
17-12-2007, 09:45 AM
Hi all EP3 owners here. Just went to the Ozhonda drag night and did a 13.9 on my second run......FYI :)

Nice, how was your MPH/60ft??

Nepolian
17-12-2007, 11:58 AM
Nice, how was your MPH/60ft??

Times were:

ET: 13.976
60ft: 2.251
Mph: 103.42

All this with a busted rear engine mount too I might add :P

Had to slip the clutch heaps to avoid the dreaded axle tramp.

Mattski_VTIR
17-12-2007, 12:02 PM
Times were:

ET: 13.976
60ft: 2.251
Mph: 103.42

All this with a busted rear engine mount too I might add :P

Had to slip the clutch heaps to avoid the dreaded axle tramp.

Nice MPH :thumbsup: Good work mate

i-vtec
17-12-2007, 01:55 PM
is it a common issue on the ep3 for the rear engine mount to break ?

Mattski_VTIR
17-12-2007, 01:56 PM
is it a common issue on the ep3 for the rear engine mount to break ?

I imagine so, as its a common problem with the DC5R and i believe they share many components,

lukits01
17-12-2007, 04:24 PM
Mph: 103.42


THAT IS INSANE MPH
for a stock engine...
AUDM DC5R with i/h/e would manage 99mph at best

my FN2 stock would only do 92mph maybe 93-94 on a cold day

SuperSteve
17-12-2007, 09:08 PM
Nepolian have u replaced ur engine mounts yet ?? or have u sourced any yet ??

Nepolian
17-12-2007, 11:11 PM
Nepolian have u replaced ur engine mounts yet ?? or have u sourced any yet ??

Nah, not yet. No time Atm, need to drive the car. Its good if I dont launch it hard.

Ive looked around and it looks like I need to get a custom one made up. Any pointers guys??

D_Drifter
21-01-2008, 11:40 PM
hey people

looking at getting a EP-R...anything need to watch out on it when looking at the car??jumping off from a CT9A Evo to V-tec

SPEEDCORE
02-02-2008, 06:14 PM
Can someone be kind enough to put a link up that shows the differences between the pre and facelift EP3.

Cheers,
Speedy.

egads
02-02-2008, 06:43 PM
Can someone be kind enough to put a link up that shows the differences between the pre and facelift EP3.

Cheers,
Speedy.

here http://www.j-garage.com/honda/civic/ep3.htm

and here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_Civic_Type_R#2nd_Generation_.28EP3_chassis.2 9

Nepolian
04-02-2008, 08:32 PM
Hey EP3 owners, lets see if a few of us can go to the March 1 cruise so we can get some nice EP3 photos going :)

NightRyder
05-02-2008, 09:59 PM
I can't make it.... :(

Philip Lee
07-02-2008, 11:52 AM
hi guys,

thinking about getting a EP3. anything need to look out for.

also is it hard to get parts? i'd guess a few parts are shared with dc5?

thanks in advance.

typercivic
07-02-2008, 02:05 PM
are you thinking of importing one or getting one that's already in oz?

some things are shared but a lot of things are going to be ep3 specific but you can always get parts, it's a matter of $$$

SuperSteve
07-02-2008, 09:45 PM
yeah some parts are interchangable between the dc5. But some parts u gotta get source out hehehe

Great car imo :)

Nepolian
07-02-2008, 10:35 PM
Great car. If you did get the car, I wouldnt change the headers. They are very good from the factory. The cat size also decent for a street car. Things you'd do is a SRI intake and a good 2.5 catback to free up the car. Then save up for a K100/Pro which would get you the most for $$.

But honestly if you dont have money to do mods, you shouldnt buy the car :(

IMO, whats the point? Unless youre happy with it stock......which is never :)

Its doesnt take much to get it going. Remember, I did 13.9 with just SRI/H/E...DC5R's just get that with KPROs on top!!

SuperSteve
07-02-2008, 10:55 PM
hehehe nobody is ever happy with a stock car because its to boring hehehe. But a JDM ep3 does 120kw at the wheels stock someone correct me if im wrong. The car is a rocket stock. My ep3 is stock and i slowly pulled on my mates stock 350z :D CRAZYYY MANZZZZZZZZZ ! ! !

typercivic
07-02-2008, 11:58 PM
Great car. If you did get the car, I wouldnt change the headers. They are very good from the factory. The cat size also decent for a street car. Things you'd do is a SRI intake and a good 2.5 catback to free up the car. Then save up for a K100/Pro which would get you the most for $$.

But honestly if you dont have money to do mods, you shouldnt buy the car :(

IMO, whats the point? Unless youre happy with it stock......which is never :)

Its doesnt take much to get it going. Remember, I did 13.9 with just SRI/H/E...DC5R's just get that with KPROs on top!!

if you don't mind saying where did you get the intake and catback from? what is a K100/Pro?

just started the importing process and looking for a car in japan atm but wouldn't mind getting some parts lined up for when the car arrives.

Nepolian
08-02-2008, 07:05 AM
if you don't mind saying where did you get the intake and catback from? what is a K100/Pro?

just started the importing process and looking for a car in japan atm but wouldn't mind getting some parts lined up for when the car arrives.

Just make up the intake or you can order it in from one of the traders or overseas (US).

My catback is custom, tho you can buy them from also a trader.

K100/Pro is the Hondata ECU. It really inproves from mid range on when fitted. The car does feel a little peaky without it!

Supersteve, you pulled away from your mate.................at the race track yeah? ;)

8a8y8
08-02-2008, 07:48 AM
hahaha busted

SuperSteve
08-02-2008, 11:27 AM
Supersteve, you pulled away from your mate.................at the race track yeah? ;)

hehehe ofcourse :angel:

typercivic
08-02-2008, 07:17 PM
is there import approval for 2005 model type r's?

does anyone know which compliance workshops are doing it for the 05 ep3?

need to know asap if possible before bidding on a car. thanks

fasthonda
08-02-2008, 08:21 PM
hehehe nobody is ever happy with a stock car because its to boring hehehe. But a JDM ep3 does 120kw at the wheels stock someone correct me if im wrong. The car is a rocket stock. My ep3 is stock and i slowly pulled on my mates stock 350z :D CRAZYYY MANZZZZZZZZZ ! ! !

I bet your mate had a suprised look on his face.:eek:

120kw at the wheels? The people at Hondatech have had peak readings of 137-140 kw at the wheels for the FN2.:confused:

micka
08-02-2008, 09:09 PM
is there import approval for 2005 model type r's?

does anyone know which compliance workshops are doing it for the 05 ep3?

need to know asap if possible before bidding on a car. thanks

IMG in Sydney have an 05 in stock according to their website stock list... 05 is facelift which are available under SEVs.

IMG can do just the compliancing as far as I'm aware... they'll charge somewhere around $3k for the service.

Best to get in contact with whoever will be doing the actual compliance

typercivic
08-02-2008, 09:53 PM
yeh cool just being the weekend now i cant get in touch with compliance place and a really good 05 is up for auction tomorrow morning so was hoping to find out. having said that there is an 05 for sale on carsales so there must be a place that does the compliancing for them.

had a look on the net but couldn't find anything about IMG? do you know their website add? sorry for ignorance but im in Perth so makes it a bit harder.

p3p5y
08-02-2008, 09:56 PM
http://www.internationalmotorgroup.com.au/

And this is the link to the 2005 EP3 they have currently for sale:
http://www.carsales.com.au/pls/carsales/!dealer_content.dealer_vehicle?vehicle_id=5187575&current_rec=6&total_rec=12&sort_type=1&dealer_id=12373

typercivic
08-02-2008, 10:37 PM
it looks like you can get the 2005 complied....just a matter of finding out who. might give IMG a call in the morning. thanks guys

Nepolian
12-02-2008, 08:31 PM
Hi Guys, Steve just got his EP3 dynoed, just thought you'd like to know :)

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=84191

lukits01
13-02-2008, 03:32 PM
Facelift EP3 would definitely be better
asside from the lower millage and exterior differences
they get a lighter flywheel same with the FN2 which is <5Kg
and an updated oil pump.
(I guess Honda did learn something from their one make race)

Nepolian
13-02-2008, 04:04 PM
Not to mention the 5-10k diff ;)

Plenty of mods in that.

SPEEDCORE
17-02-2008, 10:44 AM
Went to look at an EP3 yesterday and had a bit of a look around in the boot area and could not find anchor points for baby seats.

Please tell me I am going blind, that they are there and I just missed them.

Nepolian
17-02-2008, 11:51 AM
Went to look at an EP3 yesterday and had a bit of a look around in the boot area and could not find anchor points for baby seats.

Please tell me I am going blind, that they are there and I just missed them.

Yep, you're going blind. Thats assuming that they were fitted :)

They should be just under the rear seat where it folds!

typercivic
26-02-2008, 11:01 AM
yay i received my carbing rear tie bar yesterday. just need a car now to put on to.

Philip Lee
26-02-2008, 02:01 PM
typercivic, u have a EP3 on order?

typercivic
26-02-2008, 02:10 PM
typercivic, u have a EP3 on order?

it's already been bought in Japan, sorting out shipping atm.

Philip Lee
26-02-2008, 06:09 PM
it's already been bought in Japan, sorting out shipping atm.

who do you go thru?

i just bought mine too. need to sort out shipping and stuff. we're thinking to ship it in a container. need to find someone to share....

have you sorted our compliance? i need to do that too.

typercivic
14-03-2008, 08:07 PM
what tyres have been on everyones cars? the oem bridgestones or have they been replaced?

Nepolian
14-03-2008, 10:59 PM
Mine came with Falken 452's......they're good too!

SuperSteve
15-03-2008, 01:01 AM
Not sure what wheels my car has on them now but when i got my car it had the oem bridgestone wheels but there was no tread left so my importer replaced my wheels for me :)

p3p5y
15-03-2008, 01:27 AM
My one's came with Bridgestone Potenza RE-01R's. The handling is magnificent, especially on cornering. Googling some reviews on these tyres would give you an indication of how good they are.

Nepolian
15-03-2008, 08:55 AM
My one's came with Bridgestone Potenza RE-01R's. The handling is magnificent, especially on cornering. Googling some reviews on these tyres would give you an indication of how good they are.

Are these the originals or newly replaced from compliance. Thats awesome if it is!

typercivic
15-03-2008, 11:48 AM
mine is coming over with the bridgestones and according to auction sheet has 60&#37; tread all round. will be wanting to keep them even after getting new tyres for compliance. are the re-01r's the ones out of factory?

Philip Lee
15-03-2008, 05:03 PM
mine is coming over with the bridgestones and according to auction sheet has 60&#37; tread all round. will be wanting to keep them even after getting new tyres for compliance. are the re-01r's the ones out of factory?

OEM definitely not RE01R, i think you have to fit new tyres for compliance regardless how much tread you have.

and i don't think RE01R is E marked so not ADR compliant.

maybe we can fit new semis for compliance and re use the original tyres for street lol

Bridgestone also released RE11 which apparently is even better than RE01R.

Philip Lee
15-03-2008, 05:13 PM
Mine came with Falken 452's......they're good too!

what size is your 452?

according to Falken Aus site, they don't come in 205/45/17.

typercivic
15-03-2008, 06:00 PM
im going to put some competition tyres on for compliance haha

VTi_b0i
15-03-2008, 06:16 PM
I went to a dealer on parra rd 2day to check out 2 white ones i saw there last weekend and they were sold :( however they did have a black one there but that was sold 6months ago to a guy from far north queensland who hit a kangaroo LOL so he drove it back down here for parts or something and whoever fixed it done it very dodgy... colours arent even close... i sat in it and started her up tho and fark i must have one lol such a great feel!

Nepolian
15-03-2008, 07:01 PM
what size is your 452?

according to Falken Aus site, they don't come in 205/45/17.

215/45/17

Philip Lee
15-03-2008, 07:08 PM
215/45/17

thanks.

do u mind telling me how much you paid?

DreadAngel
15-03-2008, 07:12 PM
I went to a dealer on parra rd 2day to check out 2 white ones i saw there last weekend and they were sold :( however they did have a black one there but that was sold 6months ago to a guy from far north queensland who hit a kangaroo LOL so he drove it back down here for parts or something and whoever fixed it done it very dodgy... colours arent even close... i sat in it and started her up tho and fark i must have one lol such a great feel!

Hahaha, they're bought pretty quick man ;) Should trackdown the actually Compliance guy or importer and save yourself the $$$ paying for the dealership ;)

Nepolian
15-03-2008, 08:21 PM
thanks.

do u mind telling me how much you paid?

They were on the car when I bought. I figured it was changed for compliance or it had better tyres for them to trade off!

I think they're about the $200 mark new. I remember the 451's being in the high hundrends. But not sure for that particular size tho :(

Philip Lee
16-03-2008, 05:41 PM
a quick question about rear wiper.

does everyone have one on their car?

i saw some cars have them and some don't. i wonder if it's a FL thing or C Package item.

thanks

Nepolian
16-03-2008, 05:48 PM
a quick question about rear wiper.

does everyone have one on their car?

i saw some cars have them and some don't. i wonder if it's a FL thing or C Package item.

thanks

Mine does,

Whats a "FL" thing?

Philip Lee
16-03-2008, 05:54 PM
FL = facelift

what year is yours? C Package?

Nepolian
16-03-2008, 05:58 PM
FL = facelift

what year is yours? C Package?

2002, I suppose, its got the carbon stuff in it. What else comes with the "C" package?

Apparently its cool to take the rear wipers off and plug it up? Alot of the yanks and poms do it!

VTi_b0i
16-03-2008, 05:59 PM
i still duno if i prefer the 02 or 05 model better lol

typercivic
16-03-2008, 07:23 PM
mine has the rear wiper. i think mine has the c package though.

Philip Lee
17-03-2008, 09:24 AM
2002, I suppose, its got the carbon stuff in it. What else comes with the "C" package?

Apparently its cool to take the rear wipers off and plug it up? Alot of the yanks and poms do it!

both pre and post facelift have C package. it includes stuff like climate control, rear privacy glass (tint), folding side mirrors, HID etc.

carbon dash is an optional accessories.

i saw some pic of EP3 in Hyper Rev which has no rear wipers. ie. flat glass, not plug. and some Honda offical pics have no wipers too.

the reason i want to know is that mine has wipers and i wonder if it's a C package item.

typercivic
27-03-2008, 09:18 PM
can anyone help me confirm offset for ep3 is +48 with pcd of 5x114.3?

Nepolian
27-03-2008, 09:23 PM
can anyone help me confirm offset for ep3 is +48 with pcd of 5x114.3?

Close, +45. No difference. Can go up to +35 I reckon :)

SuperSteve
27-03-2008, 10:02 PM
what are u blokes talking about lol ??

VTi_b0i
27-03-2008, 10:07 PM
I wonder if anyone can help me with this question, when i get mine, i want to go from 17s down to 16s, but is this possible? im not sure beacause maybe the 16s wont clear the brakes?

typercivic
27-03-2008, 10:36 PM
Close, +45. No difference. Can go up to +35 I reckon :)

ahh k close like you said. thanks :)

typercivic
27-03-2008, 10:37 PM
any reason why you want to go down to 16's?

VTi_b0i
28-03-2008, 05:57 AM
lighter rims :D cheaper tyres, better perfomance

Nepolian
28-03-2008, 07:58 AM
Post 219-225 about wipers.

Post 226-227 about whell size and offset :p

typercivic
28-03-2008, 10:53 AM
I will be getting the car in about 3 weeks(going through customs now) but was wondering did anyones car come with the owners manual? was trying to find an online copy on the uk forums but couldn't. only got hold of the service one.

p3p5y
28-03-2008, 11:07 AM
I will be getting the car in about 3 weeks(going through customs now) but was wondering did anyones car come with the owners manual? was trying to find an online copy on the uk forums but couldn't. only got hold of the service one.

Mines didn't come with a Owners Manual either. I would like one as well.

Philip Lee
28-03-2008, 11:51 AM
I will be getting the car in about 3 weeks(going through customs now) but was wondering did anyones car come with the owners manual? was trying to find an online copy on the uk forums but couldn't. only got hold of the service one.

good on ya man.

my car is waiting to load on the ship now. still need to wait for a while.

according to my auction sheet, i should have the jap owner's manual and i have asked my import guy to EMS it over to me so it won't get lost during shipping.

typercivic
28-03-2008, 12:06 PM
was going to send you a pm to see how you were going with it. got the compliance sorted for it?

where do you look on the sheet or what do you look out for about the manual?

Philip Lee
28-03-2008, 12:37 PM
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/6492/aep3ro1.jpg

the red one said if there is owner's manual and yellow is warranty.

aaronng
28-03-2008, 12:58 PM
lighter rims :D cheaper tyres, better perfomance

You'll find that tyres are just as heavy. :)
Anyway, if you have a good set of EP3 rims to let go of, let me know. :)

micka
28-03-2008, 03:37 PM
I will be getting the car in about 3 weeks(going through customs now) but was wondering did anyones car come with the owners manual? was trying to find an online copy on the uk forums but couldn't. only got hold of the service one.
as part of the compliance process (during the period they were made available for import under SEVs) a manual is created. You should get a copy of one that looks photo copied and spiral-bound with some generic information.

This is my understanding, it may not be 100% accurate so please correct me if I am wrong. Ask the people doing the compliance of your car, they should give you a copy of the manual I am referring to.

typercivic
28-03-2008, 05:38 PM
micka, i know the one your talking about. Every imported car comes with one, my old 33 had it and mates 32 and S15 both came with it. I am and i think Philip as well are referring to the factory owners manual though.

Philip Lee
31-03-2008, 03:27 PM
anyone has fitted oil pressure gauge on EP3??

would there be enough space to fit a sensor adaptor + oil filter?

thanks

typercivic
09-04-2008, 01:04 AM
what globe types are in everyones cars for their headlights? H1?

Philip Lee
09-04-2008, 09:30 AM
pre FL and post FL might be different??

Shaun
22-04-2008, 01:49 AM
err.....ok.....

Nepolian
22-04-2008, 09:58 AM
EP3R is just a Jazz with a K20.

What qualifies you to make this remark??

You obviously have no life outside Ozhonda, therefore you sit at home and type useless remarks and spam!

And yes I have also seen your other posts!

I dont think anyone is biting tho...........then by looking at your rep, its expected! :thumbdwn::thumbdwn::thumbdwn:

Philip Lee
22-04-2008, 09:59 AM
EP3R is just a Jazz with a K20.

are you meant to say FN2R instead? :wave:

EP3 has fully independent suspension and fuel tank below the rear seat.

can't say the same for FN2.

typercivic
22-04-2008, 01:04 PM
don't even bother or waste your time with Double R

Felix
22-04-2008, 01:18 PM
therefore you sit at home and type useless remarks and spam!
:

school kid bored on school holidays is my guess.

Double R
22-04-2008, 03:02 PM
are you meant to say FN2R instead? :wave:

EP3 has fully independent suspension and fuel tank below the rear seat.

can't say the same for FN2.

Wow you watched Top Gear.