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Damn it's one of those dealers that offer their extended dodgy warranty. Our Astra had a similar dealer. Can you say $450 20,000km servicing?Quote:
Originally Posted by EuroDude
If you value the extra 2 years of warranty, then stay with your dealer.
$450? zomg thats hectic
Maybe next time i'll ask them not to do the oil flush and fuel additive, and bring my own $30 Honda FEO oil
They will probably add some other BS charge like "flush and changed halogen fluid" or something lol
If u want to stick with same dealer ask for no additives and byo oil.That'll save you approx.$70!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by EuroDude
Actually I don't think they do unless you made a complaint about losing power. I believe in many new cars they don't look at the valve clearances, because if it is not done properly, it will make it worst instead.Quote:
Originally Posted by falco
When I first got my 10k service, the Honda dealer charged me $210 + my own oil. I feel they are ripping me off. I never take my car back to them ever since.
Valve clearance check is in the service manual. They also must check it in order to minimise free play for the vtec mechanism.Quote:
Originally Posted by conroe
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Originally Posted by aaronng
So does a lot of other things such as wheel rotation and replacing pollen filter, but how many dealers attend to these?
My dealer does all of it except pollen filter because I replaced my pollen filter already. If they ever tell me to change my clean pollen filter, I know they are trying to rip me off.
Oh, and in addition to wheel rotation, they also balance the wheels.
I just had my 30000 service for $177 including oil and oiling the door seals.
Your dealer must be an exception but I wonder how much they charge you for the service. I had 40k and 50k service by 2 different dealers and none of them changed the pollen filter. As a matter of fact when I question 1 of the dealers about whether the filter needs to be changed he has that dumb look on his face and ask me for the second time what type of filter it is. I didn't make a big deal out of it because they didn't charge me for it but that indicates to me how much priority they give to these type of thing.
Well, the service is $250, but I bring my own oil, so it comes up to $210. At least they didn't change it for you and pop on an additional $80 for it!Quote:
Originally Posted by conroe
Got booked in for $225 at essendon honda in MELBOURNE for 20k service.
Booked 10,000km service at Essendon Honda for $195. Is that good price?
I paid $138 for 10k service(i supplied my own oil)and oil filter change at Collins Honda Rockdale Sydney.BTW this was 6 mths. ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by ^__^ SM ^__^
Sounds like a good price.I'm getting 20k service next week.Got quoted $220(i supply my own oil)from Collins Honda Rockdale Sydney.Quote:
Originally Posted by tiger266
Just book mine for the 10k service.... Price is about 190, probably bringing my own oil, so not sure about the price.
No wash, or addition of any hanky panky stuffs...
I was told to take off approx.$38 if you bring your own oil.BTW i'm changing from using Castrol Edge 5W30 to Elf Excellium SM 5W30.supposed to be better than Castrol and only $10 more for 5ltrs.$55 instead of $45.:thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by tron07
20k service, $322 at Scotts Honda Artarmon, they charged me total of about $35 for engine oil and petrol additives! fek, I didn't even ask for it. Should I go back and get them to drain the oil?
Too late now,before you paid the bill you should have checked it then questioned the additives and refused to pay for them because you didn't ask for them nor does HA recommend them(it says so in the manual)Additives are a revenue raiser for the service dept.:thumbdwn: :thumbdwn:Quote:
Originally Posted by hotout
Remember when you are ringing up comparing prices ask what the service includes and what it doesnt....
Where you get the edge for $45?? So far all the Castrol price I see is $48 I think Kmart have discount sometime back, but missed it.Quote:
Originally Posted by tony1234
Arrong, where about is your dealer? $247 looks like a good deal to me and my 20k is coming up soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
what oil are you using btw?
cheers
$44 actually.From my contact at local Honda spares.He gives me less 10%.:thumbsup:I'm going to use Elf Excellium SM 5W30 from now on,it's only $10 more and supposed to be better than Castrol.Quote:
Originally Posted by tron07
My car is in for its 20,000 today. Quoted $235. Works out to ~$200 since I'm supplying my own oil. Eastern suburbs, Melbourne.
Saw it at $45 at Supercheap (discount) or Autobarn (I think regular price) the other day.Quote:
Originally Posted by tron07
The $247 price was when I was living in Sydney. Serviced at Rick Damelian.Quote:
Originally Posted by che_ryan
Whoooooo... just done my 10k km service....Quote:
Originally Posted by tony1234
Damage $132.xx
Using my own oil, get them to check the brakes cause it was squeeling in the morning/cold stops and the oil clutch paddles (dont think they did anything to the clutch, as the receipt mention it was normal).
Tire rotation and front tire balanced.
Extra $2.xx for some washer water stuffs.
Pretty good :thumbsup:
tron07,did they change filter?cause it's not part of the 10k service in the manual!!BTW what oil did you end up using,Castrol Edge?Quote:
Originally Posted by tron07
Nope, no filter change.
Castrol Edge 5W-30.... $48 from Kmart.
what was done to fix the cold stops brake squeeling? mine is doing exactly the same thing....... :(Quote:
Originally Posted by tron07
^^ Get new pads. It's because of the OEM pads that they squeal.
I agree.i changed mine at 8k:thumbsup:.OEM pads =crap.Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
does late model euro come with an updated pad?
06 onwards does apparently.Quote:
Originally Posted by petsfact
The pads is still crap, but then it would be a waste to change them at 10k... maybe 20~30K.
Anyway, it had stop squeeling for now, will see how it goes. Normally for squeeling brakes, they just remove the pads, sand it/clean it, apply some soft of grease/sillicone like thingy. Thats what I get my mechanic to do with my previous car. With the Euro service center, I can only see my car on the hoist from afar... With my previous cars, I would be standing right there to see the action.
I changed mine at 8k.IS motorsport at Rockdale have some nice pads for our Euros.Quote:
Originally Posted by tron07
I am thinking of getting sport paddles for mine.... anyone interest to get it together at IS??
I am.How many of us here do we need for a group buy at a good price?:DQuote:
Originally Posted by tron07
I am not sure, just read that someone install his at IS around 200-300. You know anyone there? Maybe can contact and find out more info.
I tried to search for that thread but keep getting some error.
Maybe we should bring this discussion to a proper thread.
Sports paddles?!Quote:
Originally Posted by tron07
http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/109...endut102zq.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
typo... but you should know these stuffs.... racing pedals/sport/etc or whatever you call them...
Oooh, the EuroR metal pedals.
Totally wrong they check all the valve clearances at 40k intervals as part of the service. Valve adjustments if done properly should make the engine more quieter if the they are loose. If they are not adjusted properly they can ride and burn the valves. If the valves are burnt you will have to pull the head off and would be a costly experience.
When you go to the dealer you are paying for the service, knowledge, experience. The technicians are Honda trained and have access to techinical bulletins, proper work shop manuals, honda HDS computer, Honda workshop tools to support for the Honda product.
There are big over heads in opening up a dealership and i can bet you $1M that if Joe blows workshop had overheads as high as the dealers have and charge what they charge they would probly go under in no time.
You get what you pay for and my question to all you Euro owners whether its more worth it to spend $XXX now or $XXXX amount later??
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Originally Posted by conroe
local dealer quoted me $448 for 60000 service which I thought was excessive so rang Klosters in Newcastle who quoted $278 which is for oil, oilfilter and brake fluid change.Rang my local dealership back about the $170 dollar differance in price,their reply was there is a billing code error on their computer system and that they will charge me the same price as Klosters.Rang honda about another matter today (headlights with moisture) and asked about the differance in price,the said that the dealers are franchises and that honda do not set or reccomend serviceing costs that is up to the dealers.
Is MTF changed every 20g or 40g kms?
Going for my 20k service this Friday, quoted around $280-290. Will be using my own oil, so should be lesser than that price.
10K = $309 incl courtesy car (Honda dealer)
20K = $159 NRMA liverpool
30K = $165 NRMA Liverpool
40K = probably I wil take it back to the dealer bcs they have to check valve clearance
50K back to NRMA
etc
50k service due, was quoted 170$ from honda..is that good price? and also i put the oil last week, fully drained and refilled with new oil, should i ask them to reduce the price by 30$? is that how it works? also would anyone know how much they would/should charge for machining the discs??
Back to office.... service was completed around 9.00 but they took sometime to fix a rattle in the steering (air bag) area, so got the car back at around 9.30 or so.... Steering rattle was still there, but not so noticeable as previously.
Cost, around $198, plus wheel balancing (not sure got alignment, will have to refer to the receipt).
$189 at GWSQuote:
Originally Posted by TypeG
is it true that servicing Euro's are expensive?
I'm going to book mine for a 60k/70k service coz i just bought the car and the odo is now at 69k. The prev owner skipped the 60k service.
Do you guys know what its gonna cost me?
Funny thing is I have a 1yr warranty from the dealer i bought the car with an existing 2yr Honda warranty on top of that. Should I use the dealer or Honda?
:confused:
Guys, i just rang 3 places to get the price on 40k service for my 2005 AccordEuro.
Well, here's what i was quoted
Hanny's 1) 200-300 depending if fuel filter needs changing (guy wasn't sure - do'h?)
Parra Honda 2) ~500 (had to give them vin no to get a quote WTF?! probably they give different quotes to ppl for same thing all the time?!)
Artarmon Honda 3) 550
Any advice?
I'm more inclined to go with Parra Honda as they're not the cheapest and not the dearest (plus close to my home). Anyone had any experience with them? I'd appreciate the feedback here or PM.
Thanks!!
Is Parra Honda Trivett Classic?
At 40k, you don't need to change the fuel filter, but you need to change the air filter and do valve clearance checks.
Yep Trivett Classic.
Thanks for quick reply aarong. Have you been to them, are they any good?
I was actually told that they change all filters :-/ nothing was mentioned re valve clearance check but I assume they'd do since they charge so much. Will double-check anyway if I go with them.
Also wanted them to check steering pull to the left (i know there are 20+ pages regarding this on forum :) ) but now afraid its gonna cost me an arm and a leg...
Ask them about valve clearance check as well. They are good, my colleague uses them. I don't because I do my servicing myself now.Quote:
Originally Posted by pachepa
As for pulling to the left, I wouldn't have the dealer try to fix it because they just misalign the subframe to compensate. I'd get a proper wheel alignment done to my specs. Also, does it pull to the left when you are in a shopping mall car park? Or does it happen only on the street?
I send my car to trivette... pretty good to me, but then I usually wait for them to finish servicing my car. Pefer to my earlier post for the pricing for 20k service.
Thank you for your input guys!!
I've heard before that 40k and 80k supposedly are the dearest. So i'll have to bite the bullet. I just wanted to make sure in Parra's Trivett guys know what they do, as i've heard a lot of stories that in service centres servicing is mainly done by apprentices, so its not always the best service u can get for that money.
I was told it would take 4-5 hours and they'll do the whole shebang. When i get home i'll get the log book and have a look at what needs to be done, then check with the guys at trivett parra.
As for the car pulling to the left, I don't want to start a new post here :), but its sort of not constant. When i was driving on hume hwy I've felt it pretty strong, sometimes when i break it pulls harder. I have to admit, i haven't tested it in a carpark - will have to do that - but on Sydney roads it comes and goes - weird. I've red on this forum that the rods most likely need to be checked. I'll probably go to Hannys for this one.
Thanks guys for your input!!
On regular roads, the pulling is caused by road camber, which you can't fix it by regular means. Since it comes and goes, then it is tramlining or following camber, not pulling because of an suspension/alignment problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by pachepa
June 2008 i paid $229 for a 40K service.this didn't include air filter(have K&N filter) or oil(supply my own).
It included(copied from receipt)
Replace engine oil and filter
Checked and topped up all fluids
Bled brakes and replaced brake fluid
Checked ft.and rear brakes
Ft.85%,rear 70%
Checked and adjusted handbrake
Rotated tyres
Inspected valve clearances
Inspected and adjusted all drive belts
Checked alignment of lights
Visually inspected tie rod ends,steering gear box
and driveshaft boots
Checked and re tensioned suspension and steering components
Inspected brake hoses and lines including ABS
Checked exhaust system operation
Checked operation of all electrical components and accessories
Inspected fuel lines and connections
Degreased engine bay
Roadtested vehicle
Apparently it costs more if they have to do an actual valve clearance.Mine was a check and it was within spec.
wow! Only 229! I said 379 last month for my 40k service in melbourne. Supplied own oil and did not change air filter as well. prices vary too much..Quote:
Originally Posted by tony1234
I go to Collins Honda in Rockdale(Sydney).Great service,reasonable prices and don't argue with you on warranty issues,they just fix them.:thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by MiSloVic
hmm, thanks for sharing the info guys!!
will be ringing Collins Honda (Rockdale) shortly :)) if I get to save a hundred bucks or so, then its worth travelling there.
Tony1234, how much oil is required to be supplied? i'd rather buy my own. Which one do you use?
hmm, thanks for sharing the info guys!!
will be ringing Collins Honda (Rockdale) shortly :)) if I get to save a hundred bucks or so, then its worth travelling there. :thumbsup:
Tony1234, how much oil is required to be supplied? i'd rather buy my own. Which one do you use?
slightly off topic, but for those of you who supplied own oil, do you check that Honda really put that into your engine? how would you know if they really did and what if they don't?
i've experienced once with a mitsubishi dealer, who used his own oil, instead of mine. I suspect that my Honda dealer did the same as well.. i've always supplied my own castrol edge sport 5w30, and know its characteristics. the oil in my just-serviced Euro smelt differently... it has a much stronger 'oil smell' and looks thicker and a shade darker, quite unlike the edge sport.
I get them to return the unused portion of oil. So if they to take the trouble to pour out your supplied oil, then they might as well pour it straight into your engine.Quote:
Originally Posted by MiSloVic
i was talking to friend who told me that if you bring in good oil they are going to use in their own cars instead. it honestly would not surprise me the least, i think for my 20k service im going to a trusted mech, dealer services are huge gimmick that warranty is an excuse for.
at trivett parramatta, you can watch all the workstations from the lounge so you can see what they are doing.
it was fascinating, had a book with me but didnt touch it as i was watchin them with the car
Yeap... I watch them from the lounge on top and get free coffee....
plus they return the unfinished oil to me, dont even ask them to do so. I always ask them not to wash my car, and currently they have the express service or was it F1 pit stop service or somthing like that, 1 or 2 hour service. Forgot what they call already.
In this case, wouldn't it be better to get them to put an OEM oil in and then just change it yourself?! :) I really don't feel like sitting there for 4-5hours watching them "torturing" my car :) (i was told 40k service takes about 4-5 hours).
Hmm, this is F'd. I just rang Collins Honda Rockdale, was told normal price for 40k is $525, would do it for me for 490 as new customer. 450 with my own oil. what's going on? :(Quote:
Originally Posted by tony1234
I'll ring them tomorrow and tell them that a friend has recommended them but he paid much less, wanna see what they have to say.
The price they're quoting you must include valve clearance check AND adjustment.mine didn't need adjustment so therefore it was cheaper.Ask them how much $$$if they find after checking valve clearance it's within spec and doesn't need adjustment.Also remember i didn't get my air filter replaced as i have a K&N.Quote:
Originally Posted by pachepa
That's the thing!! I asked about it Valve Clearance check straight away. Was told that they just "listen" and if it "sounds" ok then its fine since those engines are generally good. Pardon my english, but that's pretty much what i was told.
I think the only things that were not included on yr receipt is air filter change and car wash. :-/
That's the thing!! I asked about it Valve Clearance check straight away. Was told that they just "listen" and if it "sounds" ok then its fine since those engines are generally good. Pardon my english, but that's pretty much what i was told.
I think the only things that were not included on yr receipt is air filter change and car wash.
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Originally Posted by pachepa
I'm not surprised by this at all. As I mentioned before, even just about every new car service manual states that valve clearance needs to be checked and adjusted, yet despite the number of new cars people that I know and I, have owned in the past, have yet to hear that the valves has been adjusted by the servicing dealer commensurate with the cost.
You see, when the word check appears in the service manual to the dealers it is a goldmine because that's exactly what they would do which would only take a few minutes yet they would charge you for the whole hour.
Everytime there is a major service that needs to be done they'll say it is going to take 5 hours or more, however more often than not, I can see more than half of that the car just sit around not being worked on!
Just had 20,000 service done today at Gold Coast Honda Tweed Heads $278.00
Spoke to Collins Honda again. Told them was quoted $490 and a friend who recommended them did 40k in JUNE for around $300 mark (told them that air filter and engine oil were supplied). I was told that if i did the same, still would be looking at around $400 dollar mark. :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by tony1234
Soo, decided to try out Trivett in Parra, same price but close to home.
Thank you guys for all your contributions!!
I have no idea why there's such a price difference.I'm looking at the invoice from Collins now.:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by pachepa
stock paper air filter is apparently 'very expensive'.. I didnt ask honda's, but stock mit outlander's cost almost $60 plus gst! K&n costs around $90.. The decision is a no braines.
Yeah,Euro air filter is approx.$60.I got a 2nd.hand K&N for $50,i agree,no brainer.Quote:
Originally Posted by MiSloVic
1 theory: since the plunge in AU dollar, Honda and its dealers are trying to recoup the exchange rate difference.. easiest way to do that, without hitting sales is to raise the cost of servicing.Quote:
Originally Posted by tony1234
if they do that, they will be digging their own grave....