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Originally Posted by euro77
Could it be that the interior shots we are seeing are from the new TSX which differs from the Euro slightly in its current guise... VVVV
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/8900/acuratsxuy5.jpg
nope.... because theres a pic of it RHD....
and the TSX has acura badging... the euro pics all had honda badging...
http://www.caradvice.com.au/wp-conte...d_tourer04.jpg
anyone else notice the manual headlight adjust??? im guessing that itll only be on the standard version with halogen if we get it in aus... like the non HID bmws....
I like it:thumbsup:
Hi/Lo dual beam HID would be killer
wrong info..thats the normal accord.Quote:
Originally Posted by albii
agreedQuote:
Originally Posted by albii
That is an European requirement. We might or might not get it, depending on the production line that we get the Euros from. If they decide to source Aus stock from the same production line as the ones for RHD UK, then we have a chance of getting the headlight adjuster (like what happens with the Astra now)Quote:
Originally Posted by EUR003act
I'm going to take my own words back... I tried the latest Mazda 6 lux hatch with auto tranny sports shift - I am very dissapointed... outside it was beautiful! the lines, the rims, how the body shaped out, it's a work of art, even the interior worked out well. But, when I actually drove the car... at the very first shift of gears down to semi auto mode was a cheap feeling, then i steered it off on the road - another disapointment, the steering has no feedback at all... nothing... it's so light I can countersteer with one finger...Quote:
Originally Posted by Blitzen
engine was alright... I held first gear for a short - within speed limit - sprint to the first lights, it didn't have that peaky feel, it was quiet but not powerful, and I must say and it lacks that distinctive engine note that everycar should have, this one, I could just hear a normal inline 4.
then i tried the sports shift... it is SOOOOOOOO slow, not responsive at all, and what's with the pedal shift where u use your fingers to shift up on both sides, then use your thumbs to shift down, and again able to do it on both sides... can't you just make it nice and simple - left down, right up.
but the chassis was nice :thumbsup: nice and solid, firm suspension, not much body roll at at, yet a comfortable ride. How do I know... well... I hooked around some round abouts a little too fast, my dad was shocked... the sales guy was sitting in the rear middle seat, he was rolling around quite alot... then a few corners later he looked pissed and said it's a new car, others are wiating to test it, so then I took it back to the dealer :)
looks like it's the end for new mazda 6 dream, and also it will be a while until my next visit to that dealer... then I went across the road to check out details about the new Euro, I knew more than they did over this forum... but I sat in the Civic Type R, first thing I noticed is wrapping around the bucket seats, then the fighter jet 'cockpit' it was so nice!
so then I drove the 3 year old Accord Euro back home - it's still a great car
Mine is nearly 4 yo and still drives like new..try driving a 4yo mazda 6 and see that they don't hold together as well.
true civicish with extra buttons...lolQuote:
Originally Posted by tron07
i went to see the new 6 and in real life only the sports looks good, the cheaper models look very plain, the new wagon looks hot, better then the sedan i think.Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
one reason why i like honda is fit and finish and materials all seems much much better then mazda (similar priced cars) thats why i bought a euro instead of a 6. i think honda engineering and drive quality is better to, i read in reviews that honda steering is to artificial and not involving like the 6, but i like my euro's steeering and handling more then my bro's 6. each to their own i guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by albii
They could do subframe and mount the engine to the sub frame and then subframe to the main chasis....Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
Then they would have to redesign the engine bay of the Euro to accomodate the subframe for the engine. Having a subframe means the engine sits higher unless you have a chassis that dips lower in the engine area (which will diminish height clearance). I wouldn't be surprised if the layout of the new Euro is very similar to the previous one just to cut costs (also, why fix something that isn't broken).Quote:
Originally Posted by tron07
The new Euro's engine is a K24A yeah? wander if its possible to grab the new K24's head and pop it onto our K24A3 :p
Although an extra 7kw wouldnt be worth it..
I doubt the powers in head :p
*the head :p
The heads are the same. I reckon the difference is through ECU and maybe cams. It's cheaper to get the cams rather than the whole head. if you were talking about the 06+ TSX head, now that would be nice to have.Quote:
Originally Posted by EuroDude
Actually its got larger diameter valves so i guess its not a simple bolt-on :pQuote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
The 2.4-liter engine is more powerful, delivering 200 PS at 7000 rpm and peak torque of 233 Nm at 4500 rpm – up from 190 PS and 223 Nm. Behind the figures are a compression ratio increased from 10.5 to 11.0:1, larger diameter valves, revised valve timing, and reduced exhaust system pressures.
http://www.vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=740462
Ahh, so it does have the 06+ TSX head, cat and exhaust. Why only 200ps? Or is it under-rated? The 06 TSX was doing 205hp (SAE) or about 215hp using the old measuring method.Quote:
Originally Posted by EuroDude
i actually like the older euro's rear end better but i like the rest :D
The 2008 Accord Euro release to dealer-principals is in June. They are being flown to Japan by Honda for this. The car is set for Australian public release in July 2008.
looks like i'll be paying a visit to local honda, :)
Hi, thanks for the info. I need a new car by mid August, so it's good to know that new Euro will be here in July. Otherwise I will have to settle for a new Mazda 6.Quote:
Originally Posted by SPQR
Did your source tell you if wagon will be here this time around? if so, when?
Thanks
I thought the TSX K24A was virtually the same as our K24A3 except for different ECU maps?Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
Perhaps its de-tuned to the lower quality of our fuel. But then again, thats why our K24A3 was slightly de-tuned. So to me it sounds like honda redesigned a few aspects of the new AUDM K24. The new TSX engine is probably even more powerful lol
The 06+ TSX has physical differences in the head plus pressure equalising channels in the block. Also has stronger rods. Our 06 Euros get the same block as the 06+TSX but different heads.Quote:
Originally Posted by EuroDude
Our fuel is better than the US. Most of the US fuel have some level of ethanol blended in.
That's my attitude too and yet some dealers think that if they don't tell you when the new model is coming then you'll buy from their existing stock.Quote:
Originally Posted by PNR888
I knew a dealer of a different brand who would refuse any knowledge of a new model even after it had been released elsewhere in Australia until he got rid of all of his old model stock. Another dealer, again of a different brand, bought up all superseded models of a particular American made 4WD and passed it off as the current model up to 6 months after the new model had been released. The advantage of living in out-of-sight out-of-mind Darwin.
The source did not say anything about a wagon and I don't think that the earlier accord wagon sold very well in Australia. You don't see many on the roads.
True: US fuel generally not as good as our low octane stuff. They use a different octane rating called "Pump Octance Number" which is the octane of fuel delivered at the pump. I believe ours is rated on what it should achieve ie "Research Octane Number". So when you see USA 88 P.O.N. it is, I think (from memory) about equal to 91 R.O.N.Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
Quite a few of their high octane fuel (91 PON, equivalent to our 98 RON) also contains ethanol. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by SPQR
Holly shit; look how high up the door handle isQuote:
Originally Posted by Jaso
Test drove the new mazda 6 today .
The car has a more upmarket feel about it then the last 6 and the gearshift is actually better than the euro in the manual, but other than that a bit of a disappointment.
Like it was said previously, engine is lacking character ,interior is nice but the exterior look bloated and quite ugly up close.
Big fat + for the 6 for me, can't wait to drive the new euro.
I hope they bring in the wagon. The last time we had an Accord wagon was back in 1994 with the CD Accord. It's a different market now compared to before.Quote:
Originally Posted by SPQR
cant see much difference. same as last model. boring.
The CL9 euro's is even higher lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Drew
http://images.motortrend.com/roadtes...erior_view.jpg
still too any buttons
i could be flying jets before i mastered the euro cockpit!
Well more and more technology is being crammed into cars, it can be a bit daunting at first but u get used to it. The steering wheel buttons are the most useful - keeps ur eyes on the road rather than reaching over to the dash to do the same thing.
It's still easier than say a Saab. LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by kraiye
The new cockpit looks cluttered with buttons because they replaced the 3 dials (passenger and driver temperature control and volume control) with 6 additional buttons instead.
That doesn't look too high
I guess it might just be the angle of the photo then
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Originally Posted by EuroDude
LOL.. its the same car?
ROFL ur right, the first pic is a CL9 as well
Looks very similar too the current shape just minor makeup work.....as for the interior looks like they got rid of the 10 piece dash and settled for a two piece one instead, wonder if it will come with dash rattles this time ? Very civic like interior aswell especially the steering and knobs through out.
I think if you put them side by side,the only thing that looks similar are the 4 doors.Quote:
Originally Posted by LXRY
Totally different lines otherwise, e.g. curves in front guards and rear guards.
The 08 Accord Euro will be in showrooms in the month of September according to Drive's 2008 New Cars Calendar.
very nice
No. My friendly dealer tells me they are going to Japan for the Dealer release in June with a release to public in Australia in July. The new Jazz is being released in September.Quote:
Originally Posted by badthing
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Originally Posted by aaronng
I still prefer dails than buttons for audio volume control and AC temperature controls. Dials are more user friendly and safer to use. With buttons, you have to look down and search for location of buttons, then determine which one is UP and which one is DOWN. can be mixed up with other controls when in hurry.
and say if you want to turn down AC 3 degree, with dail, you just turn it in one motion, but with dails, you need to press it 3 times. Same goes for volume control..
My dealer tells me the new Euro is getting a showroom release in September for Australia.Quote:
Originally Posted by SPQR
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Originally Posted by kimnkk
Yes, my Dealer changed his story to September at the earliest today.
I guesss another good thing to come out of this is cheaper parts for CL9!
Hehe you wish lol..........;)Quote:
Originally Posted by power_of_dreams
If anything, parts would stay the same price. Many companies 'freeze' the cost of parts despite identical/similar/better parts for later models being cheaper.
i prefer new ones. have a "string muscle" looks :)
the new accord euro looks good, have the same popular DNA from current euro not built from scratch. all jdm/euro accord owner should proud as honda still stick to the current design and improve it rather than total redesign that could make the car looks ugly
don't worry all honda cars looks better in reality, never looks good on preview picture (looks like diesel model sedan shown on preview picture and the petrol version should have the twin exaust and hopefully could rev to beyond 7000rpm redline rather than diesel 4500rpm)
i'm going to the geneva international motor show on tuesday :D
so i'll take some pics and report back what it's like in real life ;)
wow awesome! Are u lucky or wat?!?Quote:
Originally Posted by corn_flakes
Cant wait for the pics! :D
is the specifications of this car listed anywhere?
I have just found what appears to be a recent review/road test of the 2009 Acura TSX at:
http://www.wikio.com/leisure/cars/ac...?wfid=51480361
Apparently, according (no pun intended) to one article, stability at speed has not improved with the car requiring constant corrective steering inputs. Another article says it was very good in foul weather.
http://www.wikio.com/leisure/cars/ac...?wfid=51480361
I had a new Accord for a day last week. It was well behaved at speed.
And some not so nice reviews at:
http://www.wikio.com/leisure/cars/ac...?wfid=51805757
Photos at:
http://www.autoblog.com/photos/first...ra-tsx/709890/
love the interior expecialli the dash....not to sure about the outside view though.....but yeah have to see it in person to realli make a judgement, but i will still take the euro over the mazda 6 anytime....hehe:thumbsup:
Just looked at the specs and did a quick conversion.172ft/lbs=233Nm(same as current model.201HP=149Kw(9Kw increase over current model).But wait for it.Weight 3419lbs.=1550Kg.approx.110Kg increase over current Lux.:thumbdwn::thumbdwn:Quote:
Originally Posted by SPQR
I'm not very keen on the look of it either inside or out. The blue one looks truly disgusting. The Graphite looks better but for me there are too many conflicting lines and angles and then there is ............... the grille!
The grille is only applicable to the Acura TSX. Our Euro will have the JDM/European grille.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Star
The blue appears, in different lighting, to be the same Artic Blue Pearl that we get on the current model. I'd actually prefer it to be brighter; not being a big fan of sad, depressing, dark and sombre colours. Something like what they used have available on the Jazz: Vivid Blue Pearl. Now that's a stunning colour.
European Accord Tourer pics are just in, you can view them at http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2008/04...ge-galore.html
Couldn't agree more!!
The new Accord Euro appears to be already on sale in Italy.
http://www.honda.it/car/minisites/ar...gn=nuovaaccord
Oops! Went back to the site and had a proper read. It's a preview site much like what Honda does just before a new car is released.
it's bloody nice..much much better i think..if i have money, i wanna trade in my euro with the new one ;)
In depth information about new Accord Euro. Got all the detail info you need.
http://www.worldcarfans.com/9080408....urer-in-detail
OO.. that wagon is pretty hot!! should have made them sooner...accord wagons FTW
EDIT: fulling feeling those stock rims on the accord in the picture too..hot!
The rear of the wagon kills the sedan. Honda really should look at a 6 speed auto - shame about 5 speed.
5 speed is OK,just need to sharpen the shifts or have a sport mode.Quote:
Originally Posted by yfin
It puts on approx.110kg.Power up by 9kw,torque unchanged.:(Quote:
Originally Posted by splashalot2000
Torque is 232Nm, up from 223Nm.
has the weight increase been confirmed? or is that speculation based on the weight of the TSX? Would be a damn shame if the lightest accord euro weighed 1500kg
seems the new euro is on sale in US now. check the site:
http://acura.com
really nice ;)
Haha you're right,232Nm looks like 223Nm.:oQuote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
The extra 110kg in weight is based on the TSX spec.
just another face lift
The Euro has always had drive-by-wire (electronic) throttle. It makes my auto super smooth; especially at low speeds where very fine throttle control is available.....just as the advertising brochure from the dealership said.Quote:
Originally Posted by splashalot2000
I was just being facetious. I know that the manual suffers from shunting at low speed. That's one of the reasons I got the auto.Quote:
Originally Posted by splashalot2000
DBW:thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by SPQR
but i must admit it took a while to get used to as its touchy, probably cos i was driving a banged up 91 corolla before i got my euro...lol
but now my other car seems to take to long to react when taking off
.........I totally agree ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by yfin
Yes some interesting changes alright....Quote:
Originally Posted by splashalot2000
Alot of other car manufacturers are doing 20,000 klm's services some more, upto 32,000klms on some mercedes. It's all got to do with the materials used in building of the motor and quality of oil used, as far as I can gather ( please correct me if i'm wrong ). We'll see if the oem oil changes Honda using now changes this will be a good indicator. Two manufacturers I definetly know that are doing this is Mercedes and Volvo, their are others but not 100 % sure which others are doing this. This is a bonus for consumers as the servicing is cheaper, win win !! And also a good seller for the salesmen selling the cars as this appeals to us the consumer !!
I never believed in 15000kms oil change intervals, talk about 20000kms????
It's all about cost savings in terms of maintainance to the customer....
I don't like that. It works if you are leasing or keeping the car for only 3-5 years. That is what an extended service interval is designed for, low maintenance and a selling point for the duration that you are owning a new car. The 2nd owner after that will take the brunt of the problems, which is what car manufacturers want, to get people to buy NEW cars instead of secondhand ones. Go look at what happens to BMWs when you follow the 1 year 20,000 mile service schedule, combined with start stop city driving. Here is a pic:Quote:
Originally Posted by LXRY
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/2417/sludge2oe8.jpg
BTW, this engine was only 40,000 miles old.
Edit: Here is another pic from another BMW owner.
http://pic18.picturetrail.com/VOL898...1/93067197.jpg
Interesting post from someone who had their engine replaced under goodwill warranty. http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...&postcount=384