Your MPH will tell the truth what power it really has;)
No problems man
Well I'm love'n the whole power to hip pocket ratio = Thailand for two months backpacking :thumbsup:
Yeah I was under the impression torque was the whole point of a turbo :p
Explain Jimmy?
I'm new to this shit lol
Miles Per Hour, right?
But won't I suck still
Will also depend if you can get traction
yo luke, im tryion to read this thread, n am lost.
so what mods r u on atm ?
apart from d bolt on.
fmic
injectors
exhaust
????
just to clear things up, traction doesn't affect your mph much. for example car with traction issues with 200kw might get 13.5@115mph while like my car with much less power run can run the same time but with lower mph.
So mph is a good indication of power/weight.
apologies to luke... i probably just brought an argument into your thred that simply could have been resolved via PM.
Or low 14's :)
Nice,thanks mate.
Dont bother man. Ur turbo kit is the weak link. Ur kit cant make enough power to wreck ur engine.
If u want more power, ull need a bigger turbo, then a manifold for the turbo, then exhaust fixed to position, charge pipes redone in position, retune (and possibly new computer [emanage only can to 150% stock fuel injectors i think]), waterlines hooked up. Thats just off the top of my head, theres a few thousand there.
So, if ur gonna do all that, then by all means do ur bottom end
People run 1bar on stock internals. Upgrading rod bolts will do nothing, they are not the weak link. Same with bearings. THe weak link is the con-rod thickness. Overpowering them will bend them. What numbers are overpowering them?? The general concensious not to go any futher then 150-160kW on a stock bottom.
Like i told u. Run 14-15 psi on stock internals. But i have the compressor map for the td04h and 14psi is right on the edge of 70% run more and it drops significantly to like off the map. U can max out the turbo with stock internals.
Here, you can work it out.
http://www.not2fast.com/turbo/maps/td04-15g.gif
John, why dont ppl listen?
dunno about 15PSI on a stock motor though.
with this setup that lukensz has, what do u rekon the highest psi, could boost to widout doing damage.
how reliable u want it?
reliable enuf. not to be changing things all the time.
10-11 PSI, i was there when he was tuning it.
oh ok .
casue my mate had d same setup and he said 11psi should be d limit.
so i guess thats what i should be aiming for then.
i'd stick to 10PSI if you want reliability as boost can spike here and there
weq ran 12 psi all day every day.
From what i worked out before i sold my car.
i had an eboost so i would have had 3 settings.
I would have run 7 for normal + rain
12 for a squirt.
14 for a run down the strip.
Boost doesnt kill ur motor its the power. (obviously within reason)
I'm running 11psi
Not stable all the way to red line and ends up being 9-10psi
Once I get e-boost I'll keep 11psi and it will stay that way throughout the rev range
If its dropping off to 9psi at redline, i can understand you wanting more. I went through a few boost controllers till i found one that held to redline. The td04 is a really badly designed turbo IMO (laggy, not enough power, wastegate port sucks). U can feel the flow. At 9psi, it wont pull all the way till redline. it needs to be making 10+psi at redline for the torque not to drop off..
Umm you want more power without turning up the boost... Look at a zex 53900 cam. DOesnt take too long too install. What else, water/meth injection. Im thinking about doing this too my 350z. The meth increases the fuel octane too 105-115 depending on mixture, cools your IATs by 20-30degs and signitificaly reduces detonation threshhold.... the injection kit will add 10-20kw.
wat price we lookin at for this injetion kit?
+ war controller u using?
There are lots of kits out there man. aquamist is nice for something complete.
lol I always want more but yeah I've been thinking about 53900 before ever boosting but thought that this turbo would run out of gas with the added power in the higher rev's?
Is it worth installing with out upgrading the value train? I know one for the ZEX cans can be installed without upgrade but don’t remember witch one..
Is the water/meth injection legal?
any1 got a link on these kits?
damn, heavy on d pocket.
so wen u say 10-20kw. ...
atw ?
also. after u get this, do u need to use special fuel ?
Yes it can be used with stock valve springs, but u need to keep the rev-limit stock. The cam doesnt overwhealm the turbo. It will make power, easier, and cleaner. Definate gains above the vtec line, thats for sure. You can err on the side of caution and also install upgraded valve springs without removing the head. Just take it to someone experienced in honda's.
Water/meth injectioon is definatly legal. And we are talking 10-20kw on an aussie dyno. Its like running race gas, but costs less and is less volotile.
U need water and methonal. LOL. U can get it from many places. Even kmart. Do a GOOGLE search. GOOOOOGLE. There are MANY kits at DIFFERENT PRICES. The aquamist is one of the better brands, hence one of the most expensive. Different kits come with differnt features. Stuff like water level sensors, and triggers that wont let u activate higher boost unless the pump is pumping water. all that kind of stuff. Not needed, but can be handy and u have to pay a premium for it.
http://www.google.com.au/search?sour...onal+injection
Cool
With turbo holding up fine then I'll be doing this mod for sure once back from OS :thumbsup: The cam that is not the Water Injection thing though its very intresting to read up on...
Man that's great and here's a good tech read up :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_injection_(engines)
yes yes i have this cam... yet to run it though :( i hear great things
so to fix your boost spiking issue did you just change the actuator on the internal gate?
are you using an electronic booost controller too?
as weq was saying will it just work to get a good controller like a profec B II and this will solve the boost spikes?
yeah get the e-boost runs great one mine. Get the smaller one so i can swap with you!
btw... i looked into the water/meth system, might look at getting one, to keep the car cool.
mines the 60mm one the 2 1/2" size, i wanna downgrade it to the 2" one so i can fit it in the dash.
I got the cup holder for it though that you can have
Yup just replaced with new OEM boots :thumbsup:
You should make a bit more than me, you've got the 96-2000 kit yeah?
They have a slightly bigger turbo
Plus I don't have a boost controller yet and I end up with only 9 PSI in the high rev range.
What boost controller are you using?
Oh kool, how hard was it to get the OEM boots? reason im asking is because im taking it to the track on the 12th and if somthing is going to go bust before then i wont to make sure i can fix it :P
Ive got a custom conversion, using a gt28R
Using a profec B.
Yeah i thought id make more then that, ill go back for a retune eventually.
the gt28R is a great turbo for a built d. however u need the built block to really bring out its potiential on a d. i just posted up nhan's setup in the foced induction setups thread. his car on its first tune on 10psi made 141.3kw's atw. remember that is on 10 psi and his block was built. only thing is when he got it first tuned it didnt have a 3 bar map sensor installed. lots more potiential in the car. to bad he sold it, who ever owns the car now it very lucky
hmmm only 20-30kw difference roughly between a B & D
"only" 20-30kW difference.....
take that difference to the strip & see where it gets u.
well when you think about the cost difference between D & B considering only about 20-30kw difference isn't too bad.
very good read. well done with your car man.
interesting to see how much mine makes
Was the kit a direct fit considering you bought it form US, no problems?
Thanks man
its heaps of fun :)
Nope not one problem with fitting anything..
Sorry for the late relies.. just finished a 14 hour 3 day trek though the Thailand jungle to go looking for monkeys using flying fox"s 600f above the canopy holy cow that shits fun and we found moneys..
Sitting in Udomxai at a internet caf with very a painful body lol
heya man, howd you go with your cold start tune? any dramas? i have to take mine back to get it fixed up :(
Hey Luke C
Yeah Mines still ****ed but I'm over it now lol
Cold start idle fluctuation won't do any damage its just annoying and sounds like shit :p
Not to sure what my exact problem is though..
I've had both cold and warm sensor/valves replaced and that still didn't fix it :(
mmm really?
i dun have this problem.
aww on a cold start,
my iacv is dead, car idles funny hard !!!!!!
but on cold starts .... its usually ok only wen it heats up
bloody iacv. !!!!