Mmmm,that makes me feel nice :DQuote:
Originally Posted by ALLMTR996
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Mmmm,that makes me feel nice :DQuote:
Originally Posted by ALLMTR996
There is life in the D series yet in Australia I know the guy building this setup has been in contact with Robert@Bisimoto so who knows what is going to happen in the new year.Quote:
Originally Posted by beeza
I know I know,I mean,bisi has proven the incredible potential in the SOHC.It's only a matter of time before someone here does it.
I've never driven a b-series,I know I would love it.I know I love the d.
I wish the scene was established here like in the US,everyone helping each other and getting there rides done,on the cheap!
im goin bisi head when i get my motor built, those things sound crazy.
Yo, D-series heads.... Wake up!
Even when you do manage to polish a turd & it ends up really fast...
At the end of the day, it's still shit.
http://rlv.zcache.com/follow_me_im_t...06qw9y_400.jpg
This thread is too funny.... :p
(Don't take offence... post is in jest)
No Offence Taken :)
I Love the fact that I get great pleasure out of something that is shit to someone then hehe
yeah, i have no other option in building up this motor or swapping in a K series,
only reason is that i find it more easier on the funds this way.
its also gonna be great when i kill people on the track and they just find out its a D-series
so i dont really take offence to d-series shit talk.
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Originally Posted by TODA AU
With that sort of attitude you could say... why spend 20k + on a Kseries engine conversions on a FWD 15 year old 5k Honda civic... At the end of the day its still a civic. Ment for grocery shopping
i think he means there is no point of d series all motor .... just for dreamers, waste of money and time
i too thought the idea of building a D series. (d16a8) - had wet dreams about quad throttle bodies , big cams etc.
I grew out of it after driving in a dead standard ITR and getting back in my 96kw slug of a car. D series was the fore-runner to the B16a...and thus the world of high revving strong 1.8-2.0 honda engines.
That is , the d16a8 ( ZC) was the ONLY d series engine ever worth considering for anything. All other D series engines were always designed to pull around small cars for shopping or commuting
with all due respect, i think you should read adrians post and then my reply to it again. I dont disagree with either of you. i am saying if someone cannot justify wasteing money on a d16... then how can they justify dumping shitloads of money into any 15 year old civic/crx/intega.... at the end of the day thats all they will be.... or a "polished turd" haha
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Originally Posted by Sexc86
Its not the cover that is important...its the power within :)
Engine is totally different to the body of the car itself - this topic is in regards to performance , longevity , reliability and bang for buck.
Here is what i see. In MY opinion. 2 ways of thinking are going on at the moment
Adrian
"Even when you do manage to polish a turd & it ends up really fast...At the end of the day, it's still shit."
Ben
"Its not the cover that is important...its the power within"
By the way of thinking couldnt you say, if a car is fast, who cares if its running a d16, "its not the cover that is important... its the power within" I completely agree, however i believe adrian contradicts this by lableing something as a polished turd purely based on a engine number.. not on the power it produces.
Dont get my wrong im sure you all have your own professional opinions. But i find it strange that you both seem to be "batting on the same team" yet your making statements that are contradicting each other.
The guys in the US know how to build d's!
We don't here,but this next year will be big for the d!
Years go by and the old d still delivers!
I've never lost faith in the power a SOHC engine puts out.
It comes down to knowledge and money,but the d is cheap to build and a TONNE of power can be extracted from it!
bisi just got 388kw out of his SOHC turbo'ed d16z.Not too shabby eh
LOL...Quote:
Originally Posted by beeza
& you've summed up that parody to the Pied Piper of Hamelin quite nicely.
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Originally Posted by Sexc86
actually honda japan made some civics for the track
we in australia just got the shit models
d series civics perfect for grocery shopping
i should know i own one now
and no way would a mod one to get more power out of it at end of the day its not worth the money imo
breeza love your work buddy
I know nothing about Honda engines, other than the basics I've read here... but correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the D series motor the most common engine available in the Civic? Wouldn't it make sense for more people to play with them.. so I would have thought anyway.. seems like people just take the easy option and swap in a better motor.
If you ask me it doesn't matter what engine you have.. in the end its just a shopping trolley. I doubt anyone that has a Civic is in any delusion otherwise. Mine sits at a station carpark or in the uni carpark... and compared to my mates Barina looks damn sexy and goes A LOT harder. We're talking about cars worth < $5000 nowadays. Cheap motoring!
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Originally Posted by beeza
Don't agree with this tho - a d series motor will not be cheap to build to be performing to the same or above level as say b series motors have stock. Even more money is required to make then do decent times.Also a tonne of power can be extracted
from almost any motor with the correct massive turbo lol.
Granted , there have been amazing results from the states and south America but these engines will be highly strung , highly stressed and won't be built with longevity in mind.
Just go have fun :)
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Originally Posted by 90LAN
These civics you speak of... do they keep up with REAL sports cars? like GTR's or NSX's ? dont think so. A civic is a civic no matter how its dressed. But hey... i dont mind, i own one!
Isnt anyone going to comment on post 493? because thats the only point i am picking at ...
actually they do lyle if you checkedQuote:
Originally Posted by Sexc86
you are trying to compare things
what you are trying to say is would a d series keep up with a bseries
you know that answer
were talking about hondas here not other cars
so keep to the topic about the potential of the d series
if the d series was so cheap to get power and performance
why isnt there heaps of these cars getting done in australia to the potential of the yanks ?
instead of doing engine swaps all the time
you mite own a turd but not realise it
you polish that turd right up and get rid of the smell too so its really nice
but people still see it as a polished turd no matter how you look at it
but its your turd so you gotta love it any way
just my interpretation you asked for to be commented on
Lyle... you're thinking way too much, just let it go... LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by Sexc86
Happy New Year everyone...
Hope you all have a safe one... I'm off to have a Bevie...
Cheers
Adrian
Glad I could make ya smile :DQuote:
Originally Posted by TODA AU
And that's it benny! Just have FUN!!
I'm out there tracking my grocery shopping car :p
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Originally Posted by 90LAN
Actually mate all this crap you just garbeled out i didnt mention one bit... nor do i see how it has any relevance on the post 493. I just pointed out 2 peoples conflicting views, but people like you come in here and go off on a ****ing tangent... then turn it around on me like im the idiot.
But hey...what do i know ?
post speak for themselvesQuote:
Originally Posted by Sexc86
so when are going to get decent d series builds in australia?
so, would a SOHC vtec d16 would be a better option then a DOHC zc in a crx?
No zc is betterQuote:
Originally Posted by Spoon-Accord
did i ever say such a thing in this threds latest discussion ?Quote:
Originally Posted by 90lan
I commented one two peoples conflicting attitudes... go read post 493 again
WOW,13.28 Now Luke!!
Sick man!!!
Thanks man :pQuote:
Originally Posted by beeza
On full street rubber to...
Did U get a Vid of that run?
YupQuote:
Originally Posted by beeza
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZc1_...layer_embedded
Damn Man!!
Getting faster and faster everytime!
No more info anyone ?
I wouldn't mind some of these headers bisimoto v2
http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/m...00503Small.jpg
About what?Quote:
Originally Posted by ALLMTR996
Lets talk D series.Quote:
Originally Posted by beeza
hehe yeah,sounds good! :)
I got a stage 1 bisi cam coming but I'm selling it to Typhoontimmy cause if I put it in my car I will lose my licence.
Um,I have been helping ekcoupe with his d16y7,next we will swapping the stupid y7 IM for a y4 IM and TB.
Always keeping the d in good health,so it will last! Therefore I wont need to spend more money,that is something I am over with cars.
Anyone else with some d news!!
WE WANT :)
sweet should i go ahead n tell dave that i will get the y4 im n tb off n i can pay for tommorow when we go out.
Im keen to hear how the stage 2 cam in that one ek1 went in the other thread, keen to see in real life at least once :)
Go ahead,it might be the wrong but.Quote:
Originally Posted by ekcoupe
I told U that about 17 times now Timmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmy.
Yeah totally!Quote:
Originally Posted by EK1.6LCIV
Lol timmmiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy yyyyyy!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by beeza
How much was the cam beez. Im getting bored.
$450 but I'm gonna sell it.
Tell me bout it.always get bored,sick of spending money on my car,looking at parts on here,it's a vicious cycle :)
^^get them all then u won't have to think about them anymore hahahaha
Your shout!
:)
i finally got rid of my d series out of one of my civics
best thing i did lol
loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
hey guys ive got a slightly worked d16 na setup with 12:1 hi comps arp bottom end 4-1 headers its built for a track car,
my question is has anyone ran stock management on this compression, ive got crome for management but i was going to use the stock map to run the engine in can i get some feedback on what people have done
the cams r stock also.
I've just read through this entire thread...so who actually has a built all motor D and actually drags it?
One of the POV guys :)
d-series turbo ftw!
well keep an eye out on this thread over the next few months for my car :P
he said all motor.......
You guys know even my turbo D with 137kw run crap drags times.
14.5 was my best due to crapy SOHC power brand. :o
If you realy want a fast D N/A or boost the ZC DOHC non VTec is the only option
What other work did it have done besides turbo?
Oh yeah..Quote:
Originally Posted by GSi_PSi
NothingQuote:
Originally Posted by will13
Straight bolt-on and go
Im sure it could be a lot better then what u had luke by improving internals and gearbox.
^^ of course it would have, any car would benefit from internal work
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Originally Posted by Gio
depends on how much "work" you speak of.
With lots of "work"- and a MASSIVE turbo the car could run 10s or 9s or whatever. But Who here in oz will sink a mortgage into a d series motor ?
Why sink $$$4 into at turbo D when If you sink the same amount into a Tubo B you'll pawnageQuote:
Originally Posted by Gio
I'm a gonna buy this and get it installed.
d-series.org have great info on lightened flywheels.
I have done my reseach and a 12lbs one is the one for me I reckon.
but thats for a manual car, u sure its the right part?
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Originally Posted by beeza
Sorry Brett you are misinformed. Don't you have an
auto ?
If so , you technically have a 500gram flywheel lol. Plus a bloody heavy torque convertor full of transmission fluid. Can't get
any better than that.
OH! Glad I said something.. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by bennjamin
Yes an auto!
So that sounds great benny,only 500 grams,DAMN! :cool:
Sorted!
Thank U :thumbsup:
Thanks Killa :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Killa From Manila
imagine the facepalm if u bought it
hehe Yeah!Quote:
Originally Posted by Killa From Manila
I'm lookin' for some light weight pulleys now :D
This is the one.It's for the a/c and p/s.
I just cant find one for my car.96EK1.
The crank pulley should not be replaced,it throws off your crank balance:
http://www.d-series.org/forums/engin...lley-read.html
So this will free up some power and help the car to rev more freely.
Can anyone find one for my application at all please.
Yeah it seemed to help a little bit on my D16Y1 BrettQuote:
Originally Posted by beeza
That ones you've listed is a bit heavier than mine witch might be a good thing
11.9 lb, lbs = 5.397 749 203 kilogram
Mine was 3.4kg and would stall the motor at the drop of a hat lol
Oh benny told me,my auto's flywheel is 500 grams lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Lukezen27
But I was referring to getting the AEM tru power lightweight pulleys for a/c and p/s.
I believe these will free up some power and allow the car to rev more free-er?
Did U have them at all Luke?
why do you keep spending on your d-series for little gains which adds up, when you can install your B18C
Cause is not about the gains,it's about the whole package -Quote:
Originally Posted by GSi_PSi
A perfect balance between power,weight and handling.
I gotta tell ya,I'm gettin' damn close :thumbsup:
Just a nice lil' bump in power with the cam and the lightweight pulleys to help it rev a bit quicker and I will have myself a Very nice package indeed.
I love the auto and wouldn't swap it for manual and I don't want a big power gain.I was gonna sell the cam but have decided to install it.
So U see,cars can be a lot more than just power plant.I have enough power,the cam will just be an extra goodie :p
I've sat in cars that plant ya back in ya seat etc and it does nothing for me.Take me to a twisty mountain road and my car will rip that sh!t up! and it will be one of the funnest drives you'll have because the complete package is there and it's workin!!
The brakes are strong,the car is solid and feels like solid 1 unit.
If I were to add more power that would just throw the whole package out.
I bought the b18c with BIG plans.I was gonna make the whole package to match the built up race spec b18c.Plans fell through to lack of money but that's great cause I have found EXACTLY what I wanted in MY d16y4 auto! :thumbsup:
GREED led me to the b18c when EVERYTHING that I wanted was sitting right there in my engine bay THE WHOLE TIME!
I calibrated the voltage on the tps and it gave me back exactly what I was after - Free reving,low end power.
Man,calibrating the tps SAVED ME! :p
Stoked I figured out about it and how to do it,pretty proud of that :car:
lol..Quote:
I was gonna sell the cam but have decided to sell it.
yeah thats all true beeza has taking me for a drive and i love the handling, power n brakes very nice. i love it well done beez:D
^^ Aha lolz - That pretty much sums up how I felt a lot of the time - IN 2 MINDS LOL
I need to have a lie down :)
Thanks Timmy! It's been an awesome journey,it really has! always changin' my plans n' stuff,feelin out what I want,what works best for me etc.
Also with my car being a sedan there's a bit of a weight factor that makes the car FUN to drive,a little bit more challenging but in no way is it a hinderance.
"WORK WITH WHAT YA GOT!"
I read that in someones sig on d-series and it has stuck with me since!
i dunno how fun it would be to drive a automatic around corners :S
Do you pop it in D or do you shift 1,2,3,D lol? forget about heel and toe lol....
All the automatic gearboxes are laggy as hell, they cant change and feel better than a manual...
hahaha awesome!
Nah man,just leave it in D and concentrate on the lines.
Well I have a ball.A lotta FUN! Now that the car is finding it's mark or more that I'm finding the mark in the car (Mark = Balance :) )
I only left foot brake now too or I use either L or R foot for braking,now THAT'S balance!
I'm all for working with what you got (mainly only when people start talking about d series engines lol)
but the auto thing would be a killer, its just gas, brake, repeat
i love this thread , because its exactly what HE wants to do and not the typical "sheep VTEC-i get into debt for my b or k series" thread. Leave the kid alone let him mod his car however he wants.
Go brett, D's represent. lol
I would have Loved to go B or K but its was 2 much money for what i wanted to do for the K and i couldnt have put the B in so i boosted my D.
i love what i have done with it and i dont regret it.
but now that i had a taste of power im looking for a new car car that will produce what i want.
Keeping the civic as a daily as it will always put a smile on my face as its my 1st car.