i reckon even a b16a gearbox will rock the **** off the b18c2Quote:
Originally Posted by Vvvtec
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i reckon even a b16a gearbox will rock the **** off the b18c2Quote:
Originally Posted by Vvvtec
Indeed ^^
But ITR box wins for the oem LSD
yeah but good luck on finding a good condition one. same as the B16A really lol...at least they are cheap u can rebuild them and fit a mad LSD like a Kaaz or somethingQuote:
Originally Posted by Vvvtec
no point buying someone elses shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Glocker
buy cheapest and rebuild.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vvvtec
dont know what to say really but my S2 manifold worked great, very noticeable power increase after installing it and the injen CAI.Quote:
Originally Posted by Glocker
however I have buddyclub cams and tune also so it may need supporting parts and tune to function well.. larger TB and port match is a must though, which I'm only getting around to now.
hopefully it takes well to the build im doing with all the supertech parts.
Yeah man, I meant that in my own context. I never got mine tuned/set up properly thats why I have such a love/hate thing about it hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by Super-DA9
If I chose to go further with the B i'd be doing exactly what you're doing ;)
thanks dude, will be looking forward to seeing some of them baller K24 numbers soon ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Vvvtec
you know where to go with your K motor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vvvtec
CB auto dyno tuning servicesQuote:
Originally Posted by Bludger
I was thinking go get fkedQuote:
Originally Posted by GSi_PSi
Pm sent
getfkdmate dyno tuning services is quite good aswellQuote:
Originally Posted by Bludger
Took around 3-4hoursQuote:
Originally Posted by infurNOS
Engine - JDM K20A
Displacement - 2L
Bore - 86mm
Stroke - 86mm
CR - 11:1
Camshaft - stock
Camgear Settings - stock
VTEC X-Over - 4700rpm
Gearbox - Stock 6 Speed LSD
I/H/E - Custom 3inch BYP Catback, BWR Headers 4-2-1, BYP Short Ram,
ECU - Hondata KPRO tuned by BYP
Green was 2.5 Inch , Red 3 inch exhaust
http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...89219843_o.jpg
so i take it you decided to stick with the 2.5"?
3" does seem a little big for N/A 4 cylinder unless very heavily modified I suppose
lol sorry post edited... it was the other way around.. made more power especially in the midrange with the 3"
haha well I thought wrong then!
Awesome result for stock motor with just bolt-ons!Quote:
Originally Posted by GSi_PSi
needs more 2.4L bottom end nommsayin?.. nekminnute your engines bottom end at byp disappears heheQuote:
Originally Posted by Vvvtec
lolQuote:
Originally Posted by GSi_PSi
then im all like
http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/gl...me-face-i0.png
Got the pic of the full sheet with rates and figures below it??Quote:
Originally Posted by GSi_PSi
Attachment 21717B16a2
Std bore
Std displacement
Std stroke
Brian crower stage 2 cams
Brian crower cam gears
Brian crower valve train upgrade.
Xforce full system
Carbon whale penis
Cams advanced 4 degree intake and exhaust
Hondata s300v2
103 kwatw
Drives well smooth right through the rev range
Yep, looks good on std shootout mode so no overinflating there, solid.
Thats what i got from BYP.... maybe they can chime in and tell you what ramp rates etcQuote:
Originally Posted by Slaz
Engine - B18C2
Displacement - 1.8
Bore - standard
Stroke - standard
CR - standard
Camshaft - standard
Camgear Settings - standard
VTEC X-Over -standard
Gearbox - Type R 4.7 gearbox
I/H/E - Pod filter and spoon catback
ECU - standard
http://i814.photobucket.com/albums/z...IMG_1153-1.jpg
pics coming up waaaay too small bro, can't read a thing :(Quote:
Originally Posted by chubby steve
resized mateQuote:
Originally Posted by Super-DA9
very nice figures for pretty much stock seems like a healthy engine
200XXX kms pretty proud of it i installed plm headers this weekend ill go bak and see what the difference is
Hey guys, I'll be tuning my car next week and just wanted to share my mods and see what you guys think i'll get (kw) and from what your experience with these mods. I'll post up a dyno graph when the car is finished tune.
Thanks guys
It's a 1999 dc2r b18c7 171xxxkms Milano Red
Short ram intake
Head Porting
98+ JDM 4-1 Header With JDM Cat
Spoon Street Muffler Catback
Buddy Club Racing Spec Condenser
After Market Fuel Pump
Buddy Club Spec VI Camshafts
Buddy Club Adjustable Cam Gears
Buddy Club Valve Spring
Buddy Club Valves
Buddy Club Retainers
Tein SS Coilovers
Hardrace Engine Mounts
Hardrace Rear Camber Kits
Koyo Radiator
Competition Clutch Stage 2
Spoon Light Flywheel
Apex RSM
Hondata s300
Stock Bottom End
135kw
I never new Buddyclub made Spec VI, or is it suppose to be IV? Cant wait to see the finished result, build looks good!
Thanks mate... Yeah Its the new buddy club cams.. I can't wait as well lol
Assuming around the 130-135 mark - Let us know the end result budd :)
100-200kws
No real answer due to every dyno being different
But yeah I'd say 135kw mark there abouts
Sure ill post it up the dyno sheet when it's finish. Hopefully I'll get 130kw +
Dont be too obsessed with a specific kw number as we all know every dyno reads different and also depending on the tune,be it max kw or meaty midrange etc.
Also just be hopeful it is tuned well and has good driveability/reliability
Wish you luck,
regards Stanley
I'm gonna be generous here and say about 145kw.
Will be keeping an eye out to find out for sure, good luck with it.
Thanks for the comment mate, it's very true what you said.Quote:
Originally Posted by EKVTIR-T
Thanks buddyQuote:
Originally Posted by Wru
Is this a daily or a track beast? Are you using stock pistons or high comp? BC Spec VI must have a compression over 12.5:1
How can we hope to assume without knowing how healthy the block is? lol
Is it compressing well? Half those mods won't effect your power output. But otherwise I'm going to guess 130kw.
Thanks guys.. ill get back with you guys when its done..
as i said before 130kw+ is good enough lol
hey guys, new update.. decide not going ahead with the buddy club spec VI anymore so i went with stock type r camshaft but using the buddy club cam gears..
car is at the shop so hopefully ill get it this week or weekend :D
Didnt you have a full toda B16b before?
hmm, I'm curious, would there be any point in adjusting cam timing with stock cams?Quote:
Originally Posted by CTR_EK9
and I think it is a good decision not to use spec 6's on a stock bottom end. however spec 3+ will perform nicely on stock compression, just something to consider for the future :)
I have done this when I had my stock B18A1 LS Integra stock std engine and it did give a beez dick more I think it was 3 kw ATW and moved the power to a higher part of the rpm. If you dont know what your doing you risk some serious engine/ head/ valve damage. Not worth it to be honest..Quote:
Originally Posted by Super-DA9
http://i582.photobucket.com/albums/s...r/IMG_0930.jpg
Engine Specs:
B18C2 VTi-R
CP 11:1 Forged Pistons
Manley H-Beam Connecting Rods
Balanced rotating assembly
Buddy Club Spec III+ Cams
Buddy Club P1 Cam Gears
Supertech Valvetrain
5 Axis valve seat cut
Skunk2 Pro Series Intake Manifold
Omnipower 68mm Throttle Body
Injen CAI for DC2R
PLM TA Header
Magnaflow 2.5" 100cpsi Cat
Mugen 2.5" Twinloop Exhaust
EnDyn Breather Kit
Exedy Lightweight Flywheel
Tuned with Hondata S300
NICE!Quote:
Originally Posted by Super-DA9
My 117kw EG civic was a blast to drive, could imagine how much fun you will have with this. Well done!
Nice man! interested to see what mph it does at the drags! How does it feel to drive?
Thanks guys, the engine feels awesome. I've only driven it a few times though, the suspension and wheel alignment is at terrible settings currently so I can only have fun on the straights at the moment haha.
Great to finally see you get your car goingQuote:
Originally Posted by Super-DA9
Cheers man :)Quote:
Originally Posted by ALLMTR996
Thanks for your help and advice along the way.
Engine - JDM B18Cr
Displacement - 1.8L
Bore - stock
Stroke - stock
CR - stock
Camshaft - stock
Camgear Settings - stock
VTEC X-Over - stock
Gearbox - stock
I/H/E - Mugen Headers and twinloop catback, short ram + pod
ECU - Stock
http://i61.tinypic.com/105v2mv.jpg
Bit lower than anticipated, but against another car means its pretty much at stock power levels (147kw @ flywheel).
Hopefully pick up a bit with a tune, and some cams down the track.
Goal is to add 20-30hp
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lonewolf
With the right cylinder head & camshaft package you will be able to pick up 15-25kw.
I am currently building a B18C2 that we estimate will make approx 140-150kw at the wheels
That says hp on the chart, though? - 127hp = somewhere around 100kw. There's no way 47kw got lost in the transmission?
yes chart is measured in HP, like i said low reading dyno, usually would have expected 150ishQuote:
Originally Posted by chez00
Lonewolf. Are you running full Mugen Twinloop exhaust system? If so your power is getting eaten by it. Try CAI too?
mugen headers, unknown cat converter, and just the twinloop muffler on the rear.
Are the rear mufflers really that restrictive?
The twin loop muffler looses approx 5% over stock. They just sound good up top in the RPM range
wow, worse than stock?!
power > sound, its a predominantly track car anyway
Track car just run a straight 2.5in exhaust with a resonator & rear muffler
Sorry just wanting to clarifyQuote:
Originally Posted by stndrd
5% power?
5% flow?
5% restriction
what is 5%?
Sorry 5% power to my understanding
what do you recommend?Quote:
Originally Posted by stndrd
I use Magnaflow mufflers
Do you sell magnaflow products?Quote:
Originally Posted by stndrd
I don't sell them. I use and recommend them
What part of the twinloop is restricting? isn't it essentially just a muffler with two bends?
Every bend in an exhaust or intake system slows down air speed. The more you slow it down, the less efficient it becomes. By having a muffler that has 2 180 degree bends in it, this slows down the air too much causing it to become a bottle neck
Ok so just quickly going back to the post about the twinloop yielding less performance than the stock system, I could be wrong but I thought the stock muffler (DC2/EG/EK) had quite a few internal bends in it? Like, more than 2.Quote:
Originally Posted by stndrd
So I'm still trying to figure out how the 2.5" system with less bends in the muffler can produce less performance than the factory system.
Or is the factory muffler a different design to what I am thinking of?
Magnaflow is good quality in my opinion. Im using magnaflow 100 cell, Magnaflow 18inch resornator, vibrant 12inch resornator and Magnflow muffler.
personally i use SMB mufflers, made in australia, very high flowing, very quiet, Haks at performance exhaust recommends them.
Yup got an SMB muffler on my EVO, quieter than the magnaflow ones.
SMB hand pack the mufflers which are more solid.
They are more expensive than the magnaflow ones though
SMB muffler going on Sat at Hacks :)
just checked their websiteQuote:
Originally Posted by Limbo
look the goods but around 500 bucks just for rear muffler idk
they are well worth the money dude.
i am very fussy with my mufflers, esp about sound, i hate loud cars, period.
been through alot of of mufflers
only the SMB and the ones from hi tech mufflers are the only ones i liked.
but the SMB ones over the hi tech ones hands down.
i'm using thier rear muffler and centre muffler.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.n...29868200_n.jpg
Excuse the crap scaling... was done at a dyno day over the weekend....
B16A2
B18C2 Intake Cam
ITR Intake Mani
ITR Throttle Body
ITR Fuel Rail
Ebay CAI
5zigen 4-2-1 Headers
400 Cell Cat
T1R 2.5" Catback
J's 60RR
Stock ECU
Thoughts? Not sure what to make of it tbh...
Needs tune.
Think I could actually get something worth it from tuning?Quote:
Originally Posted by cbauto
change the cat to a 200/100cell cat too.
and get a tune.
you'll get better fuel economy, more power through the whole rev range and more response.
i got a low reading from the dyno day too.