d16y4 ecu.. hondata allowed?

been doing some research on the net and asked a few questions

what ecu is on the honda civic EK1 with the d16y4?

checked out this site
http://www.pgmfi.org/twiki/bin/view/...efinitionCodes

this information came thru
OBD=? ID=? Market=Oz DM ECU=P2K-Q01 96 Civic EK1 GLi SOHC non-VTEC (D16Y4) Notes =Manual, 'denshigiken' brand

its the only ECU with a question mark regarding if its OBD1 or OBD2...

have also looked at the plugs on the ECU and it looks like theres only 2 slots where as other diagrams i've seen have 3. so i doubt i can even run a conversion harness to make it obd1 for a hondata?

sorry if this post is abit confusing but my main question is can i run a hondata on a D16Y4 motor? :confused:

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Originally Posted by [ricer]

been doing some research on the net and asked a few questions

what ecu is on the honda civic EK1 with the d16y4?

checked out this site
http://www.pgmfi.org/twiki/bin/view/...efinitionCodes

this information came thru
OBD=? ID=? Market=Oz DM ECU=P2K-Q01 96 Civic EK1 GLi SOHC non-VTEC (D16Y4) Notes =Manual, 'denshigiken' brand

its the only ECU with a question mark regarding if its OBD1 or OBD2...

have also looked at the plugs on the ECU and it looks like theres only 2 slots where as other diagrams i've seen have 3. so i doubt i can even run a conversion harness to make it obd1 for a hondata?

sorry if this post is abit confusing but my main question is can i run a hondata on a D16Y4 motor? :confused:

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In simple terms yes you can run Hondata on your car.
ALLMTR996

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Originally Posted by ALLMTR996

In simple terms yes you can run Hondata on your car.
ALLMTR996

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cool
but in non simple terms will there be alot of work needed?
costs be alot more then the simple hondata on a OBD1 car..

you will need an OBDI ecu and convertion harness. yoru EK is OBDII

but my ecu plugs are totally different to both of these diagrams i have seen

can conversion plugs be bought to suit my particular ecu

here is a pic
obd1
http://photo.hondatech.com.au/hondaE...uts/plugs2.jpg

obd2
http://photo.hondatech.com.au/hondaEcuPinOuts/obd2a.jpg

mine computer only has 2 plugs on it... not 4 like shown in the obd2 diagram

or are these pictures just wrong?

Yes you can buy a conversion harness

or custom made

ur ecu is the sohc non vtec cxi type 2 plugs. For the amount of money you need to spend for that, get urself a much better ecu

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Originally Posted by pornstar

ur ecu is the sohc non vtec cxi type 2 plugs. For the amount of money you need to spend for that, get urself a much better ecu

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thats right it is the 2 plug type :thumbsup:

some suggestions and price ranges please?
also who in sydney would be able to supply/fit/tune these things

Depends on the ECU as to who to get to tune it, which depends on how much money you want to spend.

Give us a price range for ECU + install + tune and then we can advise on what is available and best for those $$$$.

Initial budget was $1000 for a hondata s100 ECU which is right because from the quotes i have been getting they come to around the $900-$960 mark supply/fitted/tuned.
but because my car is OBD2a it seems as i'm going to need a OBD1 ECU and conversion harness. so now im trying to not go past the $1500 mark

what mods are you doing to your engine? if its only simple mods which it sounds like if your going s100 (its a basic chip), then your better off to get an emanage for your budget and goals.

Ive wired a few to your engine type and loom type its pretty easy, the unit will cost you less than 500 bux, add about 80 for the harness and then about 250 for tuning so your done for about 800 bux.

If your engine is heavily modified, then state what they are and ill give you a better idea.

hey sorry to blow in but would i be able to tune my stock ECU??

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Originally Posted by pornstar

what mods are you doing to your engine? if its only simple mods which it sounds like if your going s100 (its a basic chip), then your better off to get an emanage for your budget and goals.

Ive wired a few to your engine type and loom type its pretty easy, the unit will cost you less than 500 bux, add about 80 for the harness and then about 250 for tuning so your done for about 800 bux.

If your engine is heavily modified, then state what they are and ill give you a better idea.

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after reading alot of other opinions there seems to be mixed feelings about the greddy emanage.

i've spoken to both TODA and DYNO DAVE regarding the hondata s100
its way over $1000 but they both seem confident they can hondata my car, they also seem confident with tuning the unit so im assured the car should run well
the prices are only $100 or so difference between each other so i guess it will come down to who ever is free on the day :thumbsup:

update...
hondata is not possible on the D16Y4... due to wiring issues with the motors harness
might have to do a d16y8 conversion if i want hondata...

i told u that from the start, ur engine loom is the black sheep and has only 2 plugs. Believe me, the emanage is the best choice for your budget and car.

yep but the problem was with the injectors
the d16y4 wiring diagram is like injector 1 and 4 together, and injector 2 and 3 together.
it can be done but wont be reliable.

why do i bother....

zooom zoom zooom we go see the tuner later if its not busy here at work..

I have seen conversion harnesses for OBD2a to OBD1. Are the hondata ECUs OBD1? If you use one of these harnesses can you then use/tune the hondata ECUs to work properly with the d16y4 existing wiring?

nope cannot do because Australian EK cxi/gli with the d16y4 are the only hondas to come out with the this type of wiring harness i have. its not like an obd1 or obd2 plug

Make your own harness. Simple

Done and car is now running P06 ECU with S series Hondata.Very big job and have learnt heaps about doing them and the next one will be very easy.
Regards Dyno Dave

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Originally Posted by DynoDave

Done and car is now running P06 ECU with S series Hondata.Very big job and have learnt heaps about doing them and the next one will be very easy.
Regards Dyno Dave

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gangsta shit there:thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by DynoDave

Done and car is now running P06 ECU with S series Hondata.Very big job and have learnt heaps about doing them and the next one will be very easy.
Regards Dyno Dave

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thanks for your patience Dave and all the hard work i put you thru
you said you'll do it no matter what and you have :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

D16Y4 + HONDATA = ALLOWED

this must be one gansta d16y4 for all this effort.

What have been your experiences of the car now that you have the Hondata ecu in there? What other supporting mods have you got again?

Just had a drive of ricers car, very nice smooth power delivery :thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by STOCK

Just had a drive of ricers car, very nice smooth power delivery :thumbsup:

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man for some reason it feels faster when u drive it..
maybe i gotta learn to drive
or just wait for more power to come..

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Originally Posted by muhhan

What have been your experiences of the car now that you have the Hondata ecu in there? What other supporting mods have you got again?

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just simple bolt on mods dude

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Originally Posted by [ricer]

man for some reason it feels faster when u drive it..
maybe i gotta learn to drive
or just wait for more power to come..

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feels faster? just gotta rev it like a b16a ;)

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Originally Posted by [ricer]

thanks for your patience Dave and all the hard work i put you thru
you said you'll do it no matter what and you have :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

D16Y4 + HONDATA = ALLOWED

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There where other people helping on this project and I could never have done it with out there help
James from Hondatech (Hondata Tech Support)
Iain Miller (Wiring Diagram Pinout Reader)
DR Honda (Honda Wiring Diagrams)
Scott Kuhner (Insight Motorsport)
Jimmy & Benson (For the S/H Honda Parts)
Thanks guys it was worth the effort.
Regards Dyno Dave

so was it just a matter of making a custom harness from the d16y4 motor loom to the P06 ecu? or did the motor loom have to get rewired? or is ths top secret??? :confused:

nice work too guys! good to see the d-series still has some love!

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Originally Posted by turtleEK1

so was it just a matter of making a custom harness from the d16y4 motor loom to the P06 ecu? or did the motor loom have to get rewired? or is ths top secret??? :confused:

nice work too guys! good to see the d-series still has some love!

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Top Secret now thats funny :p We did make a custom conversion harness and ran new injector and dizzy wires,changed the dizzy and now all I have to do is sort out an idle motor.
Regards Dyno Dave

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Originally Posted by DynoDave

Top Secret now thats funny :p We did make a custom conversion harness and ran new injector and dizzy wires,changed the dizzy and now all I have to do is sort out an idle motor.
Regards Dyno Dave

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Was going to ask if you had to change the dizzy, didn't think the PO6 would like the optical sensor dizzy. Good work Dyno Dave and all involved:thumbsup: