Think 4-5 faults for a new car is pretty bad? try TWENTY-SEVEN

[xenfacta]

different markets can get different spec levels, suspension tunes, trim details so its not always a universal fix..

[Jet_Brodski]

I've had 5 new cars over the past 15 years, and all of them have had some small little niggly problem with them at some stage.

It's par for the course IMO, though this does sound a little excessive!

[chylld]

chylld - I don't particularly think that overseas Honda TSB's are relevant for cars sold here, especially if they haven't been reproduced by Honda Australia. Perhaps that's why you are being 'fobbed off' when you refer to them?

That is the sort of attitude I just dont get. I have seen the same thing happen on other vehicle makes with the same sort of response. The construction method of the vehicle (whether it was made for the Australian market or elsewhere) is exactly the same and in my opinion 99% of the time the fix prescribed in an overseas TSB will work here.

different markets can get different spec levels, suspension tunes, trim details so its not always a universal fix..

i browse the 8thcivic.com forums quite a lot, so i've seen my fair share of pics of US civics - their sedan is very similar to ours, except of course for the rhd/lhd thing. the trim pieces and locations of the clips etc. are pretty much identical.

i recognise the fact that they might not apply exactly to our cars, but hey, if the symptom is the same, the fix is simple and quick and the diagrams match up exactly to our car, then i thought it was relevant.


my exchange with the district manager on this topic however went like this:

Me: Ok, I've done all this research on some american forums and have found these TSB's published by Honda america, in this one here you'll see...

Tony Martin, District Manager (interrupting): Look, look... I don't care what kind of research you've done on your internet or forums or whatever, they're published by Honda America, and we're in Australia, so that material, all the work you've done, is irrelevant.

Me: ... but given that the symptoms are the same and the diagrams match up to my car, will you not at least consider these fixes?

DM: (stupified look) ... errmmm....


and that was all he said on the matter. i didn't get a complete verbal response from him.

[tinkz1]

i feel for u bro.
I had the same problem with my astra with my abs light kept coming on and my car always having a fluctuating idle. I went to the dealer 8 times to try get the problems fixed and nothing, they kept saying they found nothing wrong. I even contact holden consumer relations to try help resolve my issues but clearly they were on the dealerships side.
In the end i gave up and sold my car and have never looked back

[chylld]

i feel for u bro.
I had the same problem with my astra with my abs light kept coming on and my car always having a fluctuating idle. I went to the dealer 8 times to try get the problems fixed and nothing, they kept saying they found nothing wrong. I even contact holden consumer relations to try help resolve my issues but clearly they were on the dealerships side.
In the end i gave up and sold my car and have never looked back

cheers.

i've had my astra troubles as well... 2 main things i don't like about my family's astra:

1) any problem at all, be it a rattle or whatever, holden always says "yeh we fixed the computer in it, the problem's gone now, good as new"

2) the abs in my mum's astra failed, causing her to skid and have an accident.

apart from that though they're not too bad.

[xenfacta]

the american civics are built in america but i see ur point... doesnt sound like good customer service...

[hondarox]

As I've said before, let's all pray hard that the next Euro will still be from Japan.

[NeoNode]

As I've said before, let's all pray hard that the next Euro will still be from Japan.

Seriously just STFU, you are now becoming a troll more than anything else.

[hondarox]

Seriously just STFU, you are now becoming a troll more than anything else.

Seriously, with almost 80% of Honda vehicles currently sold here from Thailand (correct me if I'm wrong), is the next Euro going to be from Japan?

[aaronng]

Seriously, with almost 80% of Honda vehicles currently sold here from Thailand (correct me if I'm wrong), is the next Euro going to be from Japan?

The next Accord will still be from Thailand. The next Euro will be from Japan since there are NO Thai-made sedans in between the size of the Civic and the Accord.

[chylld]

just a small update. it's friday evening now, which means it's been over a week since scott's honda artarmon took my car. they promised to call me last monday, but didn't contact me then and haven't contacted me since.

this could mean either of 2 things:
1) the SM is genuinely pushing his staff to find the rattles, even when they come back to him saying they can't hear any, or:
2) my car has been parked in the back corner of the garage (or on the street) and been forgotten about.

[andyhui01]

^just curious... did you get a replacement car?