Coming from a personal point of view, and not an 'Ozhonda' point of view.

It seems to me that more and more people are lacking responsibility and their own resolution for their own actions. Rather than solve the issue outright by themselves, and if failing, they always have to find someone else to blame. I.e. trader system is not good enough, need more visibility of xyz, need more stringent processes, OH is all about money and not members , etc etc

Sure those are fantastic ideas and some very valid comments but do you actually understand the bigger picture of how a forum operates and how you expect it to operate being a FREE site to join and use? Why should the forum owner bare any risk of legal action? He shouldn't. If you can pull yourself away from the "me me me" viewpoint, you might start to understand. If i was subject to legal action due to iresponsible actions by members, I would shut the site down. All those ungrateful people can go and do their own forums, run it the way they like, etc etc. You will very soon realise that without certain stringent processes, things get out of hand VERY quickly and the quality of information drops very very low.

Buying or selling ALWAYS has a risk, THATS why you usually pay less on these forums and traders, as opposed to going to a retail shop. You factor in the risk involved. You factor in things getting lost in the mail or getting broken. It sucks but this is a fact of life. Joes situation sucks balls, and I can't say the trader did the right thing, but its not that hard to spend 30 seconds sending a pm to Joe so YOU don't make the same mistake in the future. Our support goes to Joe and I hope he gets this resolved in the right manner. If not, i guess he'll have to cop it on the chip.

As for LXRYs comments, Shen, I've met this guy several times, and rather than name call and reference by a few mere comments, I have known him to be a open, friendly and very humble person. Certainly one of the more pleasant and responsible members of society.

So in summing up, I believe we have to stop blaming everyone else around us for shit that happens, sure we can make recommendations , but understand that being a free site, being maintained by VOLUNTEERS, we cannot expect to have the site run as we all wish. Something has to give.