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					  Originally Posted by  unity
					 
				 
				In what way is the quality better? My 08 civic has not had a single problem. I can't say the same thing thing about my 08 euro. The euro has more features and a better finish, however, you are paying 50% more for the euro. 
			
		 
	 
 In my opinion my 06 Euro is miles ahead in quality and refirement from my 08 Accord. (Squeaks, pinging, rattles etc). This is not to say that Thai built Hondas are bad quality, quite the opposite but just not as well build as Euros
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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					  Originally Posted by  unity
					 
				 
				I totally agree. You get what you pay for. But the Civic (so far) has not had a problem nor fallen apart. So overall the buid quaity is fine. 
			
		 
	 
 hmmm my ex-civic has fallen from day one, and after 2 and a half years, its getting worse (the last one is the CD stacker stuffed up). 
 
	
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by  snajper
					 
				 
				In my opinion my 06 Euro is miles ahead in quality and refirement from my 08 Accord. (Squeaks, pinging, rattles etc). This is not to say that Thai built Hondas are bad quality, quite the opposite but just not as well build as Euros 
			
		 
	 
 dunno if I can compare CU2 with CL9 since I never own any CL9... but a couple of friend who has test drive my CU2 say the opposite to what u said snajper   anyway, I think everyone has they own oppinion rite?  
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
				
                                       
                                 
				
		        		 
Bye2 Honda... Hello Mazda family    
				
                                        
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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					  Originally Posted by  denot
					 
				 
				hmmm I paid 2k less for the euro than the FD2 I owned before, and it makes me regret even more on why did I buy the FD2...    the CU2 is alot better than the FD2 I've had...
 
better power, better response, better quietness, better build, better handling, better basically everything...  
			
		 
	 
 I have to agree, I had an FD1 for 2 1/2 years & 65,000km without a single problem, along with great economy. The only reason I sold it was I made the mistake of parking it in the wrong place. I was never comfortable with the car after a 10K repair.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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					  Originally Posted by  driver
					 
				 
				Hi Dan, 
 
That's great news. Would you mind telling me which dealer you went to? 
 
I need to take my car in and would like to go to a place that understands this issue (and hopefully provides a nice service.) 
 
Thanks in advance. 
 
Chris 
			
		 
	 
 The dealer I went to was Astoria in Bentleigh, Victoria.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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					  Originally Posted by  dan8106
					 
				 
				My problem seems very similar to the above. 
 
Vibrations occuring (small quick jerks like it is too high a gear) around 2000 rpm at 50 to 60 km/h when lightly accelerating up an incline.  
 
I took it to the dealer, he felt it too on the test drive but had no idea what it was. 
 
He changed the transmission fluid and I haven't felt it come back ever since (5 days). 
 
The dealer also mentioned it might be the torque converter. I pushed to make a claim through my new car warranty and they have agreed to replace my torque converter free of charge. 
 
Hope this helps 
 
cheers 
 
Dan 
			
		 
	 
 Did they change the torque converter at the same time they replaced the ATF or was that afterwards?
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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							Anyone has any news about the software updates?? 
1 owner from eastern state mentioned that Honda Australia is going to delay the solution. Thats mean all onwer with the pinging issue might have to wait longer!!
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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					  Originally Posted by  eur001
					 
				 
				Anyone has any news about the software updates?? 
1 owner from eastern state mentioned that Honda Australia is going to delay the solution. Thats mean all onwer with the pinging issue might have to wait longer!! 
			
		 
	 
 I think the solution is months away. (May to June)
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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					  Originally Posted by  snajper
					 
				 
				In my opinion my 06 Euro is miles ahead in quality and refirement from my 08 Accord. (Squeaks, pinging, rattles etc). This is not to say that Thai built Hondas are bad quality, quite the opposite but just not as well build as Euros 
			
		 
	 
 
	
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by  denot
					 
				 
				dunno if I can compare CU2 with CL9 since I never own any CL9... but a couple of friend who has test drive my CU2 say the opposite to what u said snajper    anyway, I think everyone has they own oppinion rite?    
			
		 
	 
 denot, snajper was comparing the 06 Accord Euro (built in Japan) with the 08 Accord (built in Thailand); not the 09 Accord Euro (built in Japan).
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
				
                                       
                                 
				
		        		SPQR 
The first ever Whiteline RSB pattern for CL9 Euro. 
The world first ever after market RSB for RE4 CRV.  
				
                                        
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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							I've just read the CU2 Pinging data collection thread. Since anything but data collection has been forbidden by aaronng, I am posting my findings here; current as at the time of my post. Please feel free to correct me if I have missed something. 
 
All those that have posted in the pinging data collection thread: 
 
- reported pinging: False 
- have early build cars: False 
- have low kilometres: False 
- have AT cars: False 
- use 98 RON petrol: True 
- use 95 RON petrol: False 
- drive fast: False 
- drive slow: False 
 
The only "true" that holds thus far is that those using 98 RON petrol have the pinging problem (WTF?). BUT there is not enough data thus far to draw conclusions.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
				
				
				
					
						Last edited by SPQR; 08-03-2009 at 10:55 AM.
					
					
						Reason: Adapted to format requested by aaronng.
					
				 
				
				
                                       
                                 
				
		        		SPQR 
The first ever Whiteline RSB pattern for CL9 Euro. 
The world first ever after market RSB for RE4 CRV.  
				
                                        
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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							^^ Interesting. I wonder if anyone has tried using 95 RON instead to see if the pinging sound goes away.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
				
                                       
                                 
				
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					  Originally Posted by  aaronng
					 
				 
				^^ Interesting. I wonder if anyone has tried using 95 RON instead to see if the pinging sound goes away. 
			
		 
	 
 OP's with ping say it's worse with 95.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
				
                                       
                                 
				
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							its worse for me with 95.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
		 
		
		
	
 
	
	
 
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
			
				 
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