How Honda could improve the 09 Jazz.

[GTI-Jazz]

just needs the mods as mentioned above to make it a good car

You're changing your argument here too. I was not saying those mods would not make it a (better) car. You stated, and I quote:

jazz has a perfect racing chassis/shell

Firstly, you say "perfect", followed by "racing chassis/shell".

I know a bunch of people that'll love to read your thoughts on this. Great comedy 90LAN.

[90LAN]

You're changing your argument here too. I was not saying those mods would not make it a (better) car. You stated, and I quote:



Firstly, you say "perfect", followed by "racing chassis/shell".

I know a bunch of people that'll love to read your thoughts on this. Great comedy 90LAN.

well you must drive a grocery getter jazz
i can understand now why you have your views
thanks for sharing

[rossw]

well you must drive a grocery getter jazz
i can understand now why you have your views
thanks for sharing

The factory provides no other kind.

Now those belonging to some here... But they didn't start out with a "perfect racing chassis", they modified a shopping trolley. A great shopping trolley, but still a shopping trolley, not a sports car.

[GTI-Jazz]

well you must drive a grocery getter jazz
i can understand now why you have your views
thanks for sharing

Irrespective of what engine/suspension/brake modifications you do to your Jazz, it still doesn't have a 'perfect racing chassis', let alone a racing chassis at all.

[UNLS1]

lol @ using 'Jazz' and 'Racecar" in the same sentence.

EPIC FAIL!

ITS A JAZZ FFS! dont ever mention performance and race car chassis ever again whilst talking jazz lol

[90LAN]

lol @ using 'Jazz' and 'Racecar" in the same sentence.

EPIC FAIL!

ITS A JAZZ FFS! dont ever mention performance and race car chassis ever again whilst talking jazz lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r71sj...eature=related

watch and weep buddy

[rossw]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r71sj...eature=related

watch and weep buddy

OK, I'll just pop down to my Honda dealer and buy one just like it, shall I?

Your argument was that the Jazz is a PERFECT race chassis. Just because someone actually races it proves nothing, and doesn't make it perfect. People will race anything. They will take something that isn't perfect and MODIFY it - just like this guy has done.

This guy has spent $$$ to turn a Jazz into a race car. IT has a completely different engine. It has braces everywhere to stiffen it up. It has been lowered to about 3" off the bitumen, probably using coilovers. You can turn anything into a race car by spending enough $.

The Jazz is a very fine small car, but it isn't designed with racing in mind.

THIS is designed with racing in mind(click for a bigger picture):


Note the almost complete lack of luggage space, the mid mounted engine, the low profile.

Now show me a purpose buit race car (not a modified road car) that uses a strut front end and a twist beam rear end.

You won't find one because such a system does not constitute a "perfect racing chassis". It can be made to work for racing, but it is a compromise. Perfection does not allow compromise.

[UNLS1]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r71sj...eature=related

watch and weep buddy

worst point to make ever!

the reason why has been explained by rossw.

The jazz is a fantastic car, love to sell them.

but i lol @ having racing in mind when designing it. pls get ur hand of it.

[FitRS]

Well that's the problem when Honda market everything as the Power of Dreams with racing heritage.

[kongfu]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r71sj...eature=related

watch and weep buddy

I agree with 90LAN 's opinion...FIT(JAZZ) is a very good chassis for race at least lots of potential....its just a matter of who is willing to release it

js racing k24 project is just pure sexy!

however to be honest im not happy about stock form of jazz's performance and handling...need to spend $ on it to make it more fun to drive.

my 2c

[rossw]

I agree with 90LAN 's opinion...FIT(JAZZ) is a very good chassis for race at least lots of potential....its just a matter of who is willing to release it

js racing k24 project is just pure sexy!

however to be honest im not happy about stock form of jazz's performance and handling...need to spend $ on it to make it more fun to drive.

my 2c

You contradicted yourself within 3 sentences.

Anything has lots of potential if you throw money at it.

[90LAN]

to the point how could you improve the jazz
my point was its chasis was say ready to race as it has been stiffen from the factory
double layer and central fuel tank etc
perfect was not the correct word to use this time

but add the extra performance parts i mentioned before it would be a good package
for alot less than more expensive fast cars consider more like race cars from the factory

heres a explaination
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-AiJ...eature=related