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							cmon guys who gives a F*** lol 
I need to get rough prices on fixing these driveshafts 
Better to rebuild them or buy new ones?? 
 
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							Buy new ones preferably from a driveshaft shop as genuine ones will cost you a friggin gold bar. They should be around 200 bux per side =]
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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					  Originally Posted by  90LAN
					 
				 
				no they are not you fool  
  
different weigths  
			
		 
	 
 Actually, they are pretty similar.  
A boutique LSD oil contains additives for the plates in the LSD. 
If you're using a Helical LSD, You don't need a boutique LSD Oil. 
 
As for different weights, I hope you're not running those Hyphoid / Transfer case oils in your BSeries Box? something like a 140 weight..
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
				
                                       
                                 
				
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					  Originally Posted by  90LAN
					 
				 
				please tell us what happens when u put engine oil in your gearbox please  
			
		 
	 
 The honda trans was originally meant to run Engine Oil - There's really no harm in using engine oil for the Tranny. 
 
But on the topic, I thought the guy you're argueing with meant filling up from the same hole, lsd or not. He just didn't articulate it properly.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
				
                                       
                                 
				
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							Can anyone recomend any good driveshaft places? 
Does bursons or any type of shop like that stock aftermarket ones???
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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					  Originally Posted by  e240
					 
				 
				Actually, they are pretty similar.  
A boutique LSD oil contains additives for the plates in the LSD. 
If you're using a Helical LSD, You don't need a boutique LSD Oil. 
  
As for different weights, I hope you're not running those Hyphoid / Transfer case oils in your BSeries Box? something like a 140 weight.. 
			
		 
	 
 if you read he says he is running a aftermarket lsd or oem lsd  
i had the clicking problem before with a aftermarket lsd  
with new aftermarket lsd oil used it fixed the problem  
  
 have you used engine oil in your race car's gearbox if you think it can be used ? 
love to see what happens after a few laps
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
				
				
				
					
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					  Originally Posted by  90LAN
					 
				 
				if you read he says he is running a aftermarket lsd or oem lsd  
i had the clicking problem before with a aftermarket lsd  
with new aftermarket lsd oil used it fixed the problem  
  
 have you used engine oil in your race car's gearbox if you think it can be used ? 
love to see what happens after a few laps 
			
		 
	 
 He didn't say whether the aftermarket LSD is a Plate or Helical. All I'm saying is that Helical doesn't need special lsd oils.  
 
You don't really know what the clicking is (neither do we - and his mechanic has said it was the driveshaft in the end). I'm not sure how you diagnosed it was his LSD just by him saying "Clicking" noise? 
 
Pre-94, Honda Service Manuals state the use of Engine Oil. This is because MTF was not available yet. Honda MTF is basically just Engine Oil + Friction Modifiers. (Probably because Honda marketers though "shit, people keeps asking about engine oil for the gearbox, there is a market for MTF, lets make one so we can $ell it") - Many years ago when the B's first came out, we used engine oil (Mobil 1, 15w50) without any adversed effect. If not for my PLATE lsd, I doubt that even now if I ran engine oil, it would have much adverse effect. 
 
But thats beside the point, the argument was whether gear oil and LSD oil was the same. Well, where is the LSD located? gearbox right? Does it have a seperate lubrication system for the LSD? Nope...it lubricates using the gearbox oil right? Therefore LSD oil is a type of Gearbox oil, and there IS a gearbox oil. 
 
Anyway, why are you getting so worked up over this man?
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
				
				
				
					
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							so would you use engine oil in your race car now  
if you endorse it so much and say it works 
would you warranty your race parts if i use engine oil in one of your lsd? 
fact is most normal people would use engine oil for there engines  
and lsd gearbox oil for there lsd gearboxes
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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							The DC2R is an LSD box, Honda recommends using MTF - Is MTF some special LSD oil? As I have said earlier, but you just keep choosing to ignore - For a Helical LSD, you don't need boutique Oils.  
 
Fact - MTF is based on engine oil + friction modifiers, 
Fact - Honda did state engine oil for their earlier gearbox (prior to MTF) 
Fact - LSD Oil is a gearbox oil (So you're incorrect for calling the other guy a fool here) 
 
Anyway, I'm done here - No point flogging a dead horse. 
 
 
	
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by  90LAN
					 
				 
				so would you use engine oil in your race car now  
if you endorse it so much and say it works 
would you warranty your race parts if i use engine oil in one of your lsd? 
fact is most normal people would use engine oil for there engines  
and lsd gearbox oil for there lsd gearboxes 
			
		 
	 
 
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
				
                                       
                                 
				
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							but wait - you and mr Mfactory gave me a flogging for stating just that    
Kidding ! Peace    
 
 
 
Anyway.....any reports to the OP ? Any updates?
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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