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					30-11-2012 09:03 AM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  UNA91
					 
				 
				Anyone know the order to bleed brakes on the EP3, also how much fluid would I need to get altogether including a clutch fluid flush? 
 
Also, anyone know where I can find replacement side bolsters for the ep3 recaro seats? I can only find ones for the EK9, DC5 and 1st gen accord type r. I think we have the same seats as the CL1 Euro R? 
			
		 
	 
 Stay from front driver side and then go front passenger side, rear driver side and then rear passenger side.  
 
1.5L should be plenty.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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					30-11-2012 10:13 AM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  butterfingers
					 
				 
				^theres a guy selling ep3 drivers side recaro on one of the 3 main forums if that helps. ill link you if i can find it. 
			
		 
	 
 Just need the side thigh bolster foam not the whole seat lol I think i've found capitalseating,com selling bolsters for the Accord Euro R, and from my understanding all the Accord Type R use the same seats as the ep3, only in black. 
 
	
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by  Symphorced
					 
				 
				Stay from front driver side and then go front  passenger side, rear driver side and then rear passenger side.  
 
1.5L should be plenty. 
			
		 
	 
 I think thats what the service manual says, but i've also heard so many other ways like RR-RL-FL-FR (furthest from the master cylinder) or RR-FL-LR-FR (apprently a honda way of bleeding brakes?).
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
				
                                       
                                 
				
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					30-11-2012 11:23 AM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  UNA91
					 
				 
				Just need the side thigh bolster foam not the whole seat lol I think i've found capitalseating,com selling bolsters for the Accord Euro R, and from my understanding all the Accord Type R use the same seats as the ep3, only in black. 
 
 
 
I think thats what the service manual says, but i've also heard so many other ways like RR-RL-FL-FR (furthest from the master cylinder) or RR-FL-LR-FR (apprently a honda way of bleeding brakes?). 
			
		 
	 
 That is correct about the seat =)
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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					30-11-2012 12:08 PM
				
			
			
				
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							I've bled my brakes numerous times that way with no issues.  
 
I know we also share the same front seats as the Evo 6.5 as well lol.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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					30-11-2012 01:48 PM
				
			
			
				
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							What kind of brake/clutch fluid temps would I see in daily driving with a few occasional spirited drives?  
 
Reason I ask is cause motul rbf600 is like $35ish+ per 500ml! and has a dry boiling point of 312°C and a wet boiling point of 216°C. Car rarely ever sees the track, maybe like once or twice a year and most of the time they're just happy laps lol.  
Then theres also the Penrite super dot 4 with a dry boiling point of 275°C and wet boiling point of 183°C and I can get it at $8.50 per 500ml or even go their race brake fluid line for $25 each with a dry 310c and wet 198c boiling point. 
 
Also, could i use different brand brake/clutch fluid for the clutch? I'm also gonna do a brake flush on the old camry with the penrite super dot 4 and might have some left over which i was thinking of using on the EP3 to flush the clutch fluid out and use some race fluid for the brakes? Would the clutch fluid ever see the same temps as the brake fluid in normal/spirited driving? /menoob when it comes to this stuff lol
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
				
                                       
                                 
				
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					30-11-2012 01:51 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  UNA91
					 
				 
				What kind of brake/clutch fluid temps would I see in daily driving with a few occasional spirited drives?  
 
Reason I ask is cause motul rbf600 is like $35ish+ per 500ml! and has a dry boiling point of 312°C and a wet boiling point of 216°C. Car rarely ever sees the track, maybe like once or twice a year and most of the time they're just happy laps lol.  
Then theres also the Penrite super dot 4 with a dry boiling point of 275°C and wet boiling point of 183°C and I can get it at $8.50 per 500ml or even go their race brake fluid line for $25 each with a dry 310c and wet 198c boiling point. 
 
Also, could i use different brand brake/clutch fluid for the clutch? I'm also gonna do a brake flush on the old camry with the penrite super dot 4 and might have some left over which i was thinking of using on the EP3 to flush the clutch fluid out and use some race fluid for the brakes? Would the clutch fluid ever see the same temps as the brake fluid in normal/spirited driving? /menoob when it comes to this stuff lol 
			
		 
	 
 when you go for a spirited drive do you drive at 10/10ths? tires squealing on the edge of traction through every corner. 
 
i used to think they put similar kinds of physical demands on the car. but its so different. so i assume the temps would be no where near boiling point on a typical weekend back road run
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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					30-11-2012 02:03 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  butterfingers
					 
				 
				when you go for a spirited drive do you drive at 10/10ths? tires squealing on the edge of traction through every corner. 
 
i used to think they put similar kinds of physical demands on the car. but its so different. so i assume the temps would be no where near boiling point on a typical weekend back road run 
			
		 
	 
 Well in this case, twisty roads or mountain drives that require alot of hard braking from high speeds.  
 
Also, i just read that apparently 'super' dot 4 is essentially dot 5.1?
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
				
                                       
                                 
				
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					30-11-2012 02:07 PM
				
			
			
				
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							Just picked these up   and exhaust should be arriving early next week and have booked in haks for Monday 10th to get everything done. 
 
 
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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					30-11-2012 02:07 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  UNA91
					 
				 
				Well in this case, twisty roads or mountain drives that require alot of hard braking from high speeds.  
 
Also, i just read that apparently 'super' dot 4 is essentially dot 5.1? 
			
		 
	 
 i imagine you go pretty hard out then aye lol
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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					30-11-2012 02:24 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  doosra
					 
				 
				Just picked these up    and exhaust should be arriving early next week and have booked in haks for Monday 10th to get everything done.
   
			
		 
	 
 Nice!! looks like PLM headers from what i can tell from the bends?
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
				
                                       
                                 
				
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					30-11-2012 02:25 PM
				
			
			
				
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							Unless you take the car to track, OEM dot4 should be sufficient.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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					30-11-2012 02:31 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  Icebox
					 
				 
				Nice!! looks like PLM headers from what i can tell from the bends? 
			
		 
	 
 Yeap, they are indeed.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
		 
		
		
	
 
	
	
 
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
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