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 Originally Posted by spetz
Yeah HKS also had some interesting stuff for it but you know, when I asked on FTO forums where to find those bits the answer I got was to go to Japan and ask around...
How hard did the FTO go and how was traction?
I wouldn't boost this motor but lightly considering 4G63
RPM performance in SA make the FTO kits which should apply to your as well.
The FTO made 170kws@wheels on 7psi with GT28R
The 4G63 would be the gun motor in the lancer... but youd propably be better off selling your car as is then buying another lancer to do the 4g63 conversion, afterall somone paid big bucks to get that 6a12 fitted in a lancer and that way youd get a good portion back.
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 Originally Posted by spetz
Sorry guys but it is MIVEC and most people here are into NA
Most Mitsi people are into turbo
And yeah 4G63 fits but it's too late
The cheapest solution for me is choice 1 as it's all already done. Just another 2ish K I owe for the gearbox
Then, choice 2 allows me to go further with my engine at a later stage if I want/need to
But choice 3 and 4 I need the cash straight up, but at the same time will offer me huge amounts of power and torque... but the money 
the most powerful, and cheepest also the smartest option would be to sell ur current engine, and use the 4g63. Im sure others would of said this, but i havnt read ur hole thread.
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 Originally Posted by spetz
The 6A12 is already in the car guys
I have another one which is being built to replace it but hasn't finished being assembled yet and thinking what course of action I should take with the new motor
ur building a new engine to replace ur current one???? um u not just save ur cash and go 4g63
Last edited by Muzz; 29-11-2006 at 11:37 PM.
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 Originally Posted by Muzz
the most powerful, and cheepest also the smartest option would be to sell ur current engine, and use the 4g63. Im sure others would of said this, but i havnt read ur hole thread.
ive read ur hole thread and i cant believe this hasnt been mentioned
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 Originally Posted by spetz
Yeah Evo motor is an easy swap
In fact when I went to drop my car off for the conversion both engines were in front of me and I had to choose choice A or choice B
Unfortunately my idiot dipshit of a friend was a hardcore Honda fan and convinced me of going the MIVEC.
u seem like a smart guy to me, why let dipshit friends make ur choices , ur plenty capable of making them urself!.
i cant belive u were talked into NA over going fast, and i cant believe u went to find an engine without knowing exactly what u wanted for ur car! Sorry.
seriously, ull save lots of money selling ur current engine (or engines?? u got another getting built right??) and geting the 4g63.
Thing is ull probly still be just as fast if not faster, as spending shitloads more to build ur current engine + tuning etc. not to mention ull be more reliable having an oem engine. Mod for mod ull get way more out of the 4g63!
if ur after NA thats cool, but if ur wanting to go as fast as u can for ur money, stop what ur doing straight away, sell off ur engine/s, go 4g63!!!!!
Last edited by Muzz; 29-11-2006 at 11:41 PM.
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 Originally Posted by spetz
Note price for that is around 13K + shipping
if u can spare that much, ud get way way way way...... more out of going with a 4g63, way way way way more, but yeah u wont be NA, if thats important. Did i mention ul get way way way more!
 Originally Posted by spetz
And what do people think my car will do down the track with each engine?
i dont think any of those extremly expensive/labour intensive options, would be any faster than doing a simple conversion to a 4g63! not to mention u could do a few decent mods on top of the 4g63 for the price, ud be spending to do those options!
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STOCK, I was the one who paid big bucks to put it in 
And do you know how much the turbo kit from SA is?
Muzz, I can't really blame my friend for the decision, it was after all my own decision in the end. At the time I though low 14s and with some mods low 13s would be plenty fast for me. Also, I thought that while a 4G63 Lancer would be wheelspinning I'd be able to leap forward (ie, realistically be quicker on the street)
Anyway, turns out 14s, and even 13s got tiresome to me.
At this stage though I did fall in love with NA, and as much as I love boost I love being asked how much boost I run when I beat your generic turbo car, and the thing I love most is watching their faces when I tell them there is no boost
Also at this stage because there aren't any quick NA lancer's out there, I want to take claim of being the fastest
The other cons of having a 4G63:
Not as smooth
Not as rev happy
Thrashed engine from a written off car Vs completely rebuilt, good as new motor
Tyre expenses 
Pros:
Monster loads of torque
Oh, and the V6 sounds UNBELIEVABLE at 8000rpm!! Like an F1 motor!
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Oh, forgot to mentioned
Another BIG pro of doing the 4G63 is that I can AWD the car down the track for about 12K or so. That'll include the whole AYC system too 
But... I can't be stuffed doing another engine conversion. Getting the bugs out of a job like that is the hugest and most expensive headache ever!
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fwd lancers always have a hard time coping with big power, their wheel hopping problem is worse than honda and making the car half useless.
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It's not that bad.
My mate with a 4G93 equiped CC lancer pulled a 13.8 down the 1/4. The clown was wheel spinning 1st, 2nd and 3rd. 15" rims with tyres from when the car was carby -_-;. Obviously if he put more thought into suspension setup and tyre choice, he would have produced better results but you know how some people are. It's all about the power and torque steer =\
How smooth it's going to be will be determained by who tunes it and how well they do it.
If you're focused on building a N/A motor then so be it but that's not where the power is at.
The sky's the limit with a 4G63, limitless tuning options with off the shelf parts.
But good luck anyway.
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 Originally Posted by nigs
If you're focused on building a N/A motor then so be it but that's not where the power is at.
The sky's the limit with a 4G63, limitless tuning options with off the shelf parts.
But good luck anyway.
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