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brody
22-06-2012, 04:02 PM
Apart from spoon. What brands have you guys used?

Not necessary but I would love a set of ksport.. so dam sexy

UNA91
22-06-2012, 04:54 PM
Yeah, i've read the brake stopper makes the feel much better, and for such an inexpensive mod, why not?

Right now I feel like sometimes i have to press the brake all the way in when going down hill or going from highway and exiting; its just that really spongy feeling. It makes me wonder if my ABS will kick in sometime lol.

butterfingers
22-06-2012, 06:22 PM
Yeah same here. Got the pads, rotors and braided lines as well. I feel that braking seems much more firmer with braided lines. Anyone feel the same?
At one point was considering getting them spoon calipers but would have to either get some spacers or new wheels.

I have them they are ****ing insane

A tap at 120ks put you down to 70-80 in under a second

JDM EP3
22-06-2012, 06:48 PM
Do people think that an asr brace is worth getting for the whiteline swaybar? I found it for the ep3 for $200 from the US.

Perry
22-06-2012, 07:56 PM
Do people think that an asr brace is worth getting for the whiteline swaybar? I found it for the ep3 for $200 from the US.

Im considering them at the moment but cant find much review i guess it acts like a lower tie bar at the same time provides bling bling jdm accessories are selling them for $205.

bluey45
22-06-2012, 09:11 PM
I have them they are ****ing insane

A tap at 120ks put you down to 70-80 in under a second

Serious mate? Far that's awesome. How much did you get them for and what wheel setup you running?

Thinking of getting a brake stopper as well but don't know which one is good. Any recommendations?

RPS.13
22-06-2012, 10:07 PM
Tegiwa`s brake stopper is good for the price. They all do the same thing. The welding on the bracket isn't as tidy as the cusco ones. But u can`t really see under there anyway.

butterfingers
23-06-2012, 01:14 PM
Serious mate? Far that's awesome. How much did you get them for and what wheel setup you running?

Thinking of getting a brake stopper as well but don't know which one is good. Any recommendations?

Coming from a stock ek1 to an ep3 and spoon calipers The difference is phenomenal. First drive I treated it like the ek, braking early before a turn

Needed to speed up again just do I wouldn't slow down traffic

Feel really sensitive specially at high speeds. You don't expect to slow so much from the pressure you apply

Car feels so nimble terms of speed control

Running cr-Kai at the moment, they just clear the calipers

JDM EP3
23-06-2012, 01:17 PM
Im considering them at the moment but cant find much review i guess it acts like a lower tie bar at the same time provides bling bling jdm accessories are selling them for $205.

I doubt there would be much to review about it. Its a reinforcement bar to prevent subframe tear out. Its the swaybar that does all the handling aspect of it. My question is at the price should we go for it?

Perry
23-06-2012, 01:58 PM
I doubt there would be much to review about it. Its a reinforcement bar to prevent subframe tear out. Its the swaybar that does all the handling aspect of it. My question is at the price should we go for it?

Yeah the only ppl will benefit from it are the ep3 si guys from the states running bigger sways, The price wont vary much I put a order in already and apparently it has arrived so ill try and get it installed soonish. If you can find it cheaper than 200 it will be good.

JDM EP3
23-06-2012, 02:13 PM
Yeah the only ppl will benefit from it are the ep3 si guys from the states running bigger sways, The price wont vary much I put a order in already and apparently it has arrived so ill try and get it installed soonish. If you can find it cheaper than 200 it will be good.

I found it for $179USD from swap shop racing, silver base colour. +20$ for any other colour.
Trying to decide on black or gold, with the greyish whiteline sway?

Perry
23-06-2012, 02:19 PM
arrr nice I went with the normal silver, I was planning on black but it will look wired with a orange sway since lower control arms and rear sub frame isnt black.

JDM EP3
23-06-2012, 02:34 PM
arrr nice I went with the normal silver, I was planning on black but it will look wired with a orange sway since lower control arms and rear sub frame isnt black.

Noooo, if it was orange you should have gone black I doubt you can easily see the rest of the setup anyway

Mikeyy168
23-06-2012, 04:24 PM
Do u guys know If the function7 subframe will fit if I have a whiteline sway bar on the ep3?

Perry
23-06-2012, 07:17 PM
Noooo, if it was orange you should have gone black I doubt you can easily see the rest of the setup anyway

toooo late i got it already black is to plain.

SuperSteve
23-06-2012, 07:47 PM
toooo late i got it already black is to plain.

ur too plain !

JDM EP3
23-06-2012, 09:00 PM
toooo late i got it already black is to plain.

Well the orange would have stood out against the black.

Perry
24-06-2012, 01:40 AM
Well the orange would have stood out against the black.

Yeah i know oh wells i could always respray it later on =)

Perry
24-06-2012, 01:40 AM
ur too plain !

Indeed I am Steve hehehhe

UNA91
24-06-2012, 12:02 PM
Lol I just used Sikaflex (3m window weld alternative) to fill my transmission mount, and my god that stuff is messy as hell to use, once it gets on something you'll have a hard as hell time getting it off. It dried pretty solid, but I think i left some air pockets on some sides since it was pretty hard to tell what I was doing.

Shifts feel more smoother now, especially shifting at high rpm; vibrations isn't much difference since i got a Hasport side mount. Yes it's pretty ghetto, but its doing it's job lol and if it fails in the long run i'd probs upgrade to Hasport anyway.

Icebox
24-06-2012, 12:41 PM
dumb question guys, but when the fuel light pops up does it mean i have 10Ls left in the tank?

because i was driving home yesterday, and my fuel gauge was sitting on 2 bars above empty, crapping my pants to find a petrol station home, but my light never come on~ i was confused cause the light normally comes on before that,

LED gone? maybe?

-JC-
24-06-2012, 12:44 PM
dumb question guys, but when the fuel light pops up does it mean i have 10Ls left in the tank?

because i was driving home yesterday, and my fuel gauge was sitting on 2 bars above empty, crapping my pants to find a petrol station home, but my light never come on~ i was confused cause the light normally comes on before that,

LED gone? maybe?

The fuel light in mine is a bit weird too. Sometimes it comes on, then goes off, I drive to and form work for another day or two and then it comes back on again. I reckon there would have to be around 10 litres left in the tank when it comes on, I have driven for ages with it on and not run out.

Icebox
24-06-2012, 01:11 PM
The fuel light in mine is a bit weird too. Sometimes it comes on, then goes off, I drive to and form work for another day or two and then it comes back on again. I reckon there would have to be around 10 litres left in the tank when it comes on, I have driven for ages with it on and not run out.

i know what you mean, whats weird is i fueled up 45Ls when it clicked, and our tanks 50Ls so something weirds going on for sure lol, oh well just happy i maded it to a petrol station at 2am in the morning

JDM EP3
24-06-2012, 01:14 PM
I filled up yesterday at 46ltrs and vteced a few times before I got there. I worked out that I am only getting 12.5l/100km. Basically granny driving, still waiting on those plugs to see if thats the issue, as I did a service last week.

Icebox
24-06-2012, 02:47 PM
I filled up yesterday at 46ltrs and vteced a few times before I got there. I worked out that I am only getting 12.5l/100km. Basically granny driving, still waiting on those plugs to see if thats the issue, as I did a service last week.

12.5L/100km is a lot man, i thought you changted your o2 sensor ?

UNA91
24-06-2012, 03:57 PM
How do I know if my o2 sensor is going bad?

Lukezen27
24-06-2012, 05:07 PM
How do I know if my o2 sensor is going bad?

error light comes on hahah

Simple

JDM EP3
24-06-2012, 05:12 PM
12.5L/100km is a lot man, i thought you changted your o2 sensor ?

No I havent changed it yet, I never got a CEL light but was thinking that could be an issue. I'll wait until I get the new sparkies in and see if that remedies the problem first.

UNA91
24-06-2012, 07:58 PM
Hah just asked cause my last fuel up went down pretty fast; normal driving, same route. Just wondering if my sensor is on its way out or something... Am i able to take them out for a visual inspection or are they real fragile or something?

butterfingers
24-06-2012, 09:12 PM
Can you guys help

Engine light comes on very briefly (under a second) every now and then on Hill starts

Maybe once Every 20 or so drives
Anybody know why?

bennjamin
24-06-2012, 09:14 PM
guiz

a thought - our cars are tuned on/for japanese higher octane fuel (apparently 103RON) so basically the ep3r ecu will run richer as to not lean out with its required a/f ratio and overall tune.

So , either chuck in a local DC5R ecu and get alittle less HP but alittle better fuel economy - or stop complaining about it lol

brody
24-06-2012, 09:23 PM
guiz

a thought - our cars are tuned on/for japanese higher octane fuel (apparently 103RON) so basically the ep3r ecu will run richer as to not lean out with its required a/f ratio and overall tune.

So , either chuck in a local DC5R ecu and get alittle less HP but alittle better fuel economy - or stop complaining about it lol

Touche

JDM EP3
24-06-2012, 09:27 PM
guiz

a thought - our cars are tuned on/for japanese higher octane fuel (apparently 103RON) so basically the ep3r ecu will run richer as to not lean out with its required a/f ratio and overall tune.

So , either chuck in a local DC5R ecu and get alittle less HP but alittle better fuel economy - or stop complaining about it lol
I'll put your pretty useless post to rest. A lot of ep3 guys are getting 400km's+ out of a full tank with standard ep3 ecu's

geeang
24-06-2012, 09:36 PM
I'm getting 10.1L/100kms, and I don't baby my EP3 either.
I used to get 9-9.5L/100kms though so I'm not sure what's causing it to drop recently, might replace the fuel filter and do a major service to see if that helps.

brody
24-06-2012, 09:40 PM
Im getting an easy 450:) its bliss

UNA91
25-06-2012, 12:21 AM
Sorry for the silly question... but how do you guys actually measure your fuel consumption lol

bennjamin
25-06-2012, 09:04 AM
I'll put your pretty useless post to rest. A lot of ep3 guys are getting 400km's+ out of a full tank with standard ep3 ecu's

Sorry but you are a dick for a reply like that. Instead of dissing my 3 seconds of typing - how about dispell a "myth" with some facts ? Prove me wrong ? I too got 400-450kms out of a tank in my ep3. But this is very average/poor fuel economy.

What I stated is partially correct. Please correct me if wrong , mate.

Mikeyy168
25-06-2012, 09:24 AM
Sorry but you are a dick for a reply like that. Instead of dissing my 3 seconds of typing - how about dispell a "myth" with some facts ? Prove me wrong ? I too got 400-450kms out of a tank in my ep3. But this is very average/poor fuel economy.

What I stated is partially correct. Please correct me if wrong , mate.

gotta agree. with both comments here.
fail reply and the average/poor fuel economy. 400k's with a k20... I dont consider that as GREAT fuel economy. should be able to get 500km's easy with that 50L tank we have.

I personally havnt been getting it since im running a bit rich or lean due to new modifications on the car but a new ECU and tune will do the fix! :)

butterfingers
25-06-2012, 09:25 AM
Sorry but you are a dick for a reply like that. Instead of dissing my 3 seconds of typing - how about dispell a "myth" with some facts ? Prove me wrong ? I too got 400-450kms out of a tank in my ep3. But this is very average/poor fuel economy.

What I stated is partially correct. Please correct me if wrong , mate.

If you bought an ep3 for "outstanding" fuel economy your literally going to a brothel for a hug

Perry
25-06-2012, 11:03 AM
I've pushed mine to 480km but normally fill up around 450 mark.

kenny07
25-06-2012, 11:07 AM
no idea whats going on but yeah yeah...
...400-450 sounds about right??

maybe 500?? ..... dont know???!?
o_0

bluey45
25-06-2012, 11:45 AM
I usually get around 450km per tank as well. I guess if I drive a little spiritly then it would be slightly less.

RPS.13
25-06-2012, 11:46 AM
I used to get closed to 600km, when I had intake and cat back.

Now get around 560-580km, with gruppe m, headers, hi-flow cat and exhaust. 80% freeway km's, with moderate to heavy foot and vtec.

In inner city suburbs and 10-20% freeway driving I get around 440-460km when the light just comes on. Minimal use of vtec. So maybe just under 500km if I were to squeeze a bit more out of it.

iQQ
25-06-2012, 12:08 PM
damn you guys amaze me! ive never got more than 380 from the first day i bought my car

kenny07
25-06-2012, 01:16 PM
damn you guys amaze me! ive never got more than 380 from the first day i bought my car

LOL
how fast do you drive??

Perry
25-06-2012, 01:22 PM
damn you guys amaze me! ive never got more than 380 from the first day i bought my car

Still have the ep3 iQQ?

JDM EP3
25-06-2012, 01:24 PM
Sorry but you are a dick for a reply like that. Instead of dissing my 3 seconds of typing - how about dispell a "myth" with some facts ? Prove me wrong ? I too got 400-450kms out of a tank in my ep3. But this is very average/poor fuel economy.

What I stated is partially correct. Please correct me if wrong , mate.

First of all, there is no need to call people dicks, if your little backyard garage ego has been hurt no need to run around insulting people.

There is no need for me to dispel any myth. First of all standard fuel economy with the EP3 is 400-500km that is fine for that car. Anything under that is very high mileage.
You also tell people to run an ECU for a K20A2 engine in a K20A? Isnt there some differences in compression in those two engines?

People let you fix (or explode) their cars?

Perry
25-06-2012, 01:30 PM
Come on guys break it up!!!!

SuperSteve
25-06-2012, 01:35 PM
Hmmm break

_______________ _______________ ops I did it again

Lukezen27
25-06-2012, 01:37 PM
hmmm break

_______________ _______________ ops i did it again


stop that steve!

:)

iQQ
25-06-2012, 03:30 PM
LOL
how fast do you drive??

lol not fast at all! well not anymore anyways.. im being serious but, even when i was driving like a granny i got about 350 - 380


Still have the ep3 iQQ?

yeah i still do man, thinking of a k20 head soon with all the toda parts i had! but we'll see..

Perry
25-06-2012, 04:14 PM
lol not fast at all! well not anymore anyways.. im being serious but, even when i was driving like a granny i got about 350 - 380



yeah i still do man, thinking of a k20 head soon with all the toda parts i had! but we'll see..


arr nice do it man =)

qldhonda
25-06-2012, 07:44 PM
I was getting around 640 Klm a tank on 98 pump petrol as a daily drive until the dreaded primary O2 sensor went to -36 volts :(

Now I am lucky to get 500. But thanks to Gav at IMG a new sensor is on it its way at a most excellent price and hopefully it will arrive here in Butt#@$%Idaho (townsville) by Friday. Also 2 new headlights, yeah baby. Screw you Kangaroos..

geeang
25-06-2012, 08:02 PM
I was getting around 640 Klm a tank on 98 pump petrol as a daily drive until the dreaded primary O2 sensor went to -36 volts :(

Now I am lucky to get 500. But thanks to Gav at IMG a new sensor is on it its way at a most excellent price and hopefully it will arrive here in Butt#@$%Idaho (townsville) by Friday. Also 2 new headlights, yeah baby. Screw you Kangaroos..

Can I ask how much you got the 02 sensor for? I'm thinking the one in mine is starting to go too.

Lukezen27
26-06-2012, 08:38 AM
Can I ask how much you got the 02 sensor for? I'm thinking the one in mine is starting to go too.

Got mine IMG $350

Icebox
26-06-2012, 09:01 AM
Got mine IMG $350

Benny from BYB charged me $200 for the 02 sensor, hannys charged my friend 250

$350 seems a bit over the top no offence

UNA91
26-06-2012, 11:51 AM
Ive seen a few new denso ones for around $150 on amazon

kenny07
26-06-2012, 02:28 PM
Hey everyone....

i've got a small issue with my car while breaking. not sure what it is and i dont think its an actual problem

when i break and just before my car comes to a stop, i hear like a clicking sound coming from the rear area of my breaks.
doesn't always comes and probably 2 or 3 times out of 5.
whether it's gentle breaking and hard, it sometime hear it.

was wondering anyone has this problem and know what it is..

everytime i get my car services, they go my breaks are fine and while i drive, there isn't issue/problem with the car except for the annoying sound..

kenny07
26-06-2012, 02:28 PM
oh and i drive an ep3-r, just incase u guys need to know

butterfingers
26-06-2012, 03:51 PM
I get that too, under hard braking only

And I assume you drive one. Or you wouldn't be asking that question here right?

kenny07
26-06-2012, 04:41 PM
I get that too, under hard braking only

And I assume you drive one. Or you wouldn't be asking that question here right?

yeah i wrote it down just incase.. LOL

and as for that clicking sound.. i only get it durring soft gental breaking..

any idea on what it is?

butterfingers
26-06-2012, 04:54 PM
At first I though it was the brake lines

Idk anymore

Will be heading down to BYP for a service soon so I'm not worried

kenny07
26-06-2012, 05:31 PM
At first I though it was the brake lines

Idk anymore

Will be heading down to BYP for a service soon so I'm not worried

oh okay.. could you let me know what is causing that click sound when you get it services...

i'm not due in for a service anytime soon...

i just did mine recently.... and i keep forgetting to tell them about that clicking sound

butterfingers
26-06-2012, 06:44 PM
oh okay.. could you let me know what is causing that click sound when you get it services...

i'm not due in for a service anytime soon...

i just did mine recently.... and i keep forgetting to tell them about that clicking sound

Remember this

Ep3 like a lot of performance Hondas have little sound deadening. As well as stuff suspension.

Might simply be hearing normal mechanical operation but it sounds a lot clunkier and mechanical than another car

Idk about the clicking but I'll let you know. Afaik your mechanic should have already covered it if it was a problem. My one checks everything on every single service

CivicTypeR
27-06-2012, 09:42 AM
I had that problem too. Made a noise everytime I went to brake softly.

I found it went away when I changed my rotors and pads.


Hey everyone....

i've got a small issue with my car while breaking. not sure what it is and i dont think its an actual problem

when i break and just before my car comes to a stop, i hear like a clicking sound coming from the rear area of my breaks.
doesn't always comes and probably 2 or 3 times out of 5.
whether it's gentle breaking and hard, it sometime hear it.

was wondering anyone has this problem and know what it is..

everytime i get my car services, they go my breaks are fine and while i drive, there isn't issue/problem with the car except for the annoying sound..

kenny07
27-06-2012, 11:19 AM
I had that problem too. Made a noise everytime I went to brake softly.

I found it went away when I changed my rotors and pads.

oh sweet! thanks for that help!

now i just need to find some mullah for new brake pads and rotors
:(

UNA91
27-06-2012, 12:36 PM
Had this problem too, I took my calipers off and cleaned the pads and pistons and the problem went away, left my garage floor black from all that brake dust lol...maybe it was a sticking caliper or something.

Try taking it off and giving them a clean with brake cleaner. You don't have to take the brake fluid hoses off, it should be the same procedure as just changing your pads. I also painted my brakes whilst I was at it :\

kenny07
27-06-2012, 12:43 PM
Had this problem too, I took my calipers off and cleaned the pads and pistons and the problem went away, left my garage floor black from all that brake dust lol...maybe it was a sticking caliper or something.

Try taking it off and giving them a clean with brake cleaner. You don't have to take the brake fluid hoses off, it should be the same procedure as just changing your pads. I also painted my brakes whilst I was at it :\

thanks for the info..
dont need to spend money on brake pads and rotors just yet! :)

unfortunately, i have no idea how to take it apart and putting back together...

UNA91
27-06-2012, 06:03 PM
thanks for the info..
dont need to spend money on brake pads and rotors just yet! :)

unfortunately, i have no idea how to take it apart and putting back together...

Try this: http://forums.clubrsx.com/showthread.php?t=643475

It's for the DC5 but its pretty much the same with the EP3 and most other cars.

Basically, jack car up, take wheel off, remove two bolts and it should come off. Putting it back is just reverse. Hardest part is just getting those bolts off, may help to turn your wheel to one side. Make sure when you assemble it back, that those bolts are tightened to specs (or just really tight...)

Oh and you shouldn't need to push the piston back in unless your changing your pads.

TonyxTony
29-06-2012, 05:16 PM
There are some weird cracking sound coming from my engine bay at low speed. usually happens when the car is still then begin to move. not sure where it is coming from :/ everything feels the same

Also which brand of engine mount you guys recommend? Mugen at $500 or J racing at $520 (jdmconcept) price

Thanks alot!

bluey45
29-06-2012, 05:23 PM
There are some weird cracking sound coming from my engine bay at low speed. usually happens when the car is still then begin to move. not sure where it is coming from :/ everything feels the same

Also which brand of engine mount you guys recommend? Mugen at $500 or J racing at $520 (jdmconcept) price

Thanks alot!

Well I'm using the mugen engine mounts and I find that they are pretty good. You can order them from rhd japan for about $300.

JDM EP3
29-06-2012, 05:26 PM
There are some weird cracking sound coming from my engine bay at low speed. usually happens when the car is still then begin to move. not sure where it is coming from :/ everything feels the same

Also which brand of engine mount you guys recommend? Mugen at $500 or J racing at $520 (jdmconcept) price

Thanks alot!
sounds once again like the steering rack needs regreasing. Also you can get hasport mounts for that price and they are firmer mugen is just a little firmer than stock and not worth it IMHO

bluey45
29-06-2012, 06:38 PM
sounds once again like the steering rack needs regreasing. Also you can get hasport mounts for that price and they are firmer mugen is just a little firmer than stock and not worth it IMHO

Depends how firm you want them lol.

UNA91
29-06-2012, 06:45 PM
There are some weird cracking sound coming from my engine bay at low speed. usually happens when the car is still then begin to move. not sure where it is coming from :/ everything feels the same

Also which brand of engine mount you guys recommend? Mugen at $500 or J racing at $520 (jdmconcept) price

Thanks alot!

Posted the exact same problem a few pages back; turned out it was the steering rack needed re-greasing.

As for mounts, apparently mugen is meant to feel like oem mounts :S

TonyxTony
29-06-2012, 09:27 PM
Posted the exact same problem a few pages back; turned out it was the steering rack needed re-greasing.

As for mounts, apparently mugen is meant to feel like oem mounts :S

Oh Thanks for that, I will try re greasing it.... but how ?? not really sure...

JDM EP3
29-06-2012, 09:31 PM
Oh Thanks for that, I will try re greasing it.... but how ?? not really sure...

Info is in here: http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?131492-greasing-ep3-steering-rack

TonyxTony
29-06-2012, 10:12 PM
Info is in here: http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?131492-greasing-ep3-steering-rack


thanks bro, and what type of greaser do i need to get? it is a common thing at like auto super or something ?

JDM EP3
30-06-2012, 12:55 AM
thanks bro, and what type of greaser do i need to get? it is a common thing at like auto super or something ?

White lithium grease is what is used to grease it up just make sire u get it right in there and turn your wheels side to side and apply allround then use a zip tie or a hose clamp to seal it all up again.

JDM EP3
30-06-2012, 11:11 PM
just wanted to ask guys if this is the correct O2 sensor for the EP3? http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000C5WCLS/ref=pe_113430_24633050_pd_re_dt_dt2
Would it be recommended to replace the secondary O2 sensor at the same time?

Lukezen27
01-07-2012, 09:14 AM
just wanted to ask guys if this is the correct O2 sensor for the EP3? http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000C5WCLS/ref=pe_113430_24633050_pd_re_dt_dt2
Would it be recommended to replace the secondary O2 sensor at the same time?

Na secondary doesn't seem to brake much

TonyxTony
01-07-2012, 02:11 PM
White lithium grease is what is used to grease it up just make sire u get it right in there and turn your wheels side to side and apply allround then use a zip tie or a hose clamp to seal it all up again.

Thanks :) i will give it a go this week.

It seens abit far in. is there an easier way to get to it?

also on the right side. do I need to take off the intake?

UNA91
02-07-2012, 09:14 PM
Lol I just worked with the motor in the way, just get some pliers and maybe wire cutters and pry that metal clip off, then use zip ties or a large hose clamp to close it. For the right side you do have to take the intake off, but if you have a CAI then probs not

brody
03-07-2012, 10:06 AM
Hey guys,
Anyone know the part numbers for primary and secondary o2 sensors for our ep?

RPS.13
03-07-2012, 12:56 PM
Hey guys,
Anyone know the part numbers for primary and secondary o2 sensors for our ep?

Primary o2 sensor OEM part number: 36531-PRB-A01 (number on the box, purchased from JDMYard)

Secondary o2 OEM part number (printed on the actual unit): NTK OHJ:562-H7 (Which proved to be quite difficult to find a OEM replacement)

I ended up getting an aftermarket Denso 234-4122 Oxygen Sensor, more info here http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?76083-EP3-Type-R&p=3301180&viewfull=1#post3301180 Post #12437

The secondary sensor, I wouldn't bother with changing it unless your actually getting a CEL specifically stating that it has malfunctioned or a similar error code.

UNA91
04-07-2012, 12:54 AM
Man, just took the ep3 for a spin tonight after 2 weeks sitting in the garage, and my gosh i love my car haha feels good to hit vtec again.

Icebox
04-07-2012, 08:52 AM
Well I'm using the mugen engine mounts and I find that they are pretty good. You can order them from rhd japan for about $300.

how much was shipping from Rhd japan? i was thinking of getting the j's racing one plus some other small stuff but it didnt say anything about shipping so it stopped me

bluey45
04-07-2012, 09:06 AM
how much was shipping from Rhd japan? i was thinking of getting the j's racing one plus some other small stuff but it didnt say anything about shipping so it stopped me

When I ordered my mugen mounts from RHD they cost me $330 all up. Shipping was about $40. Ended up still cheaper than buying in oz.
You may need to register a account and when you put items in your trolley it should give you the postage cost.

butterfingers
04-07-2012, 09:25 AM
does anyone get surprise mods? some importers have no idea seriously.

cleaning the engine bay last night and found an engine torque damper, js racing tie rod, j's racing lower tie bar, some blue colored aftermarket rear camber arms that was not listed on the mods list when i bought it. how delightful.

bluey45
04-07-2012, 09:42 AM
does anyone get surprise mods? some importers have no idea seriously.

cleaning the engine bay last night and found an engine torque damper, js racing tie rod, j's racing lower tie bar, some blue colored aftermarket rear camber arms that was not listed on the mods list when i bought it. how delightful.

Serious? That's pretty sweet. :D

Icebox
04-07-2012, 10:01 AM
When I ordered my mugen mounts from RHD they cost me $330 all up. Shipping was about $40. Ended up still cheaper than buying in oz.
You may need to register a account and when you put items in your trolley it should give you the postage cost.

thats some pretty cheap! might jump on it before our dollar gets worst, haha


does anyone get surprise mods? some importers have no idea seriously.

cleaning the engine bay last night and found an engine torque damper, js racing tie rod, j's racing lower tie bar, some blue colored aftermarket rear camber arms that was not listed on the mods list when i bought it. how delightful.

I did, i thought i was running on a cheap aftermarket exhaust system,

but what i found was a spoon axle back n1 exhaust, unknown mid pipe + a high flow cat.

plus a couple yens in the cabin ;)

brody
04-07-2012, 11:30 AM
Primary o2 sensor OEM part number: 36531-PRB-A01 (number on the box, purchased from JDMYard)

Secondary o2 OEM part number (printed on the actual unit): NTK OHJ:562-H7 (Which proved to be quite difficult to find a OEM replacement)

I ended up getting an aftermarket Denso 234-4122 Oxygen Sensor, more info here http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?76083-EP3-Type-R&p=3301180&viewfull=1#post3301180 Post #12437

The secondary sensor, I wouldn't bother with changing it unless your actually getting a CEL specifically stating that it has malfunctioned or a similar error code.

Awesome thanks for that. Yeh.. my primary is screwed so ill just replace that one.
No problems with the Denso?

brody
04-07-2012, 11:33 AM
does anyone get surprise mods? some importers have no idea seriously.

cleaning the engine bay last night and found an engine torque damper, js racing tie rod, j's racing lower tie bar, some blue colored aftermarket rear camber arms that was not listed on the mods list when i bought it. how delightful.

Yeh I had mugen springs, and they aren't cheap haha.

butterfingers
04-07-2012, 11:39 AM
i found a pair of panties owned by a jap prostie trapped in the recaro rails

UNA91
04-07-2012, 12:40 PM
found a apexi vtec controller in the spare tyre well lol

kenny07
04-07-2012, 01:23 PM
arent you guys lucky...

im gonna go treasure hunting in my car later when i finish work to see if i have any surprise mods

Perry
04-07-2012, 01:51 PM
found a apexi vtec controller in the spare tyre well lol

You guys are lucky finding good mods in your EP3 already with the car =)

butterfingers
04-07-2012, 02:31 PM
i just found out my engine is actually k20/k24 frankenstein

Icebox
04-07-2012, 02:40 PM
i just found out my engine is actually k20/k24 frankenstein

:O thats insane... how did you figure out you had a k20/24?

you sure got really lucky with the ep3!

bluey45
04-07-2012, 03:00 PM
i just found out my engine is actually k20/k24 frankenstein

Woah! That must be a nice surprise

butterfingers
04-07-2012, 03:13 PM
^LMFAO just trolling on the k20/k24.
but i honestly did find the other goodies

UNA91
04-07-2012, 03:41 PM
just found a gun and some cocaine in the behind my dash panels. lulz jks.

butterfingers
04-07-2012, 03:55 PM
shit sorry man, i read the lulz jks part too late, i already tracked down your ip address and gave it to the cops

-JC-
04-07-2012, 05:44 PM
I found an envelope that has been translated to confirm that someone's insurance renewal is due . . . lucked out by the looks!

RPS.13
04-07-2012, 06:27 PM
Awesome thanks for that. Yeh.. my primary is screwed so ill just replace that one.
No problems with the Denso?

No major issues with the Denso, it threw a CEL once during the track day the week it was put in. Error codes stated that it had malfunctioned and also had an additional fuel mixer code. The CEL turned off by itself later that evening and hasn't come back on since.


I found a Spoon drop in air filter in the airbox, and a few yen in the centre console :thumbsup:

butterfingers
04-07-2012, 06:51 PM
How many of you don't use the "I-vtec" manifold cover? Is there any downside to driving without it?

JDM EP3
04-07-2012, 07:11 PM
Does vtec engage in 1st gear?

-JC-
04-07-2012, 07:21 PM
Does vtec engage in 1st gear?

Not sure if srs?

Lukezen27
04-07-2012, 07:32 PM
Does vtec engage in 1st gear?

Yes

Char

JDM EP3
04-07-2012, 07:42 PM
Yes

Char

I was serious actually. Does the car need to be at operating temp for it to do so? It just doesnt sound like it crosses over in first with the gruppeM. In second I can hear the difference thats why I was asking.

butterfingers
04-07-2012, 07:52 PM
The engine doesn't know or care what gear your in vtec will engage without fail at 5800rpm unless: our not on full throttle. Or your oil is very low.

JDM EP3
04-07-2012, 07:53 PM
The engine doesn't know or care what gear your in vtec will engage without fail at 5800rpm unless: our not on full throttle. Or your oil is very low.

Nah my oil was sweet as I just changed it. Its more than half way between the two dots. So your saying unless your in full throttle it wont engage?

Lukezen27
04-07-2012, 08:01 PM
Nah my oil was sweet as I just changed it. Its more than half way between the two dots.

YES it was serious answer and yeah fully heated up before VTec will kick-in in any gear

Char (Character) = is used to add fonts to allow posting with limits set to minimum

JDM EP3
04-07-2012, 08:14 PM
YES it was serious answer and yeah fully heated up before VTec will kick-in in any gear

Char (Character) = is used to add fonts to allow posting with limits set to minimum

Lol nah man I wasnt quoting you on not sure if srs it was the one above yours. Should have quoted that as well.

bennjamin
04-07-2012, 08:45 PM
Nah my oil was sweet as I just changed it. Its more than half way between the two dots. So your saying unless your in full throttle it wont engage?

(on the ep3) depending on load , throttle position and gear ivtec will engage a range of "amounts"...not just ON/OFF. It has varible timing too (thats the "i" in ivtec)

butterfingers
04-07-2012, 08:48 PM
(on the ep3) depending on load , throttle position and gear ivtec will engage a range of "amounts"...not just ON/OFF. It has varible timing too (thats the "i" in ivtec)

Interesting I didn't know that. Must have been thinking about the old vtec.

So as I was saying before is there any downside to taking the manifold cover off?

JDM EP3
04-07-2012, 08:49 PM
(on the ep3) depending on load , throttle position and gear ivtec will engage a range of "amounts"...not just ON/OFF. It has varible timing too (thats the "i" in ivtec)

That makes sense, seeing as in first its incredibly difficult to go full throttle as there is too much wheel spin and hopping so compared to other gears the intake note is not prevalent.

butterfingers
04-07-2012, 08:50 PM
That makes sense, seeing as in first its incredibly difficult to go full throttle as there is too much wheel spin and hopping so compared to other gears the intake note is not prevalent.

2nd and 3rd gear has the best crossover

brody
04-07-2012, 09:44 PM
How many of you don't use the "I-vtec" manifold cover? Is there any downside to driving without it?

I took it off. I think it looks cleaner. Cooler I guess. But no real downside I wouldn't think

brody
04-07-2012, 09:48 PM
Isn't it all to do with oil pressure? Oil pressure is low when cars cold, do so vtec.
As said before.. also depends on throttle position as this also effects oil pressure. If you have an oil pressure gauge, watch that and you'll see.

butterfingers
04-07-2012, 10:12 PM
Isn't it all to do with oil pressure? Oil pressure is low when cars cold, do so vtec.
As said before.. also depends on throttle position as this also effects oil pressure. If you have an oil pressure gauge, watch that and you'll see.

Yea but minimum engagement point is still 5800 rpm for the traditional kick

Lukezen27
05-07-2012, 01:30 PM
Yea but minimum engagement point is still 5800 rpm for the traditional kick

Mine kicks in at 4000RPM

Feels wicked down lower

butterfingers
05-07-2012, 01:43 PM
Mine kicks in at 4000RPM

Feels wicked down lower

was meant to say stock ecu lol. does the power taper off a bit towards redline?

Lukezen27
05-07-2012, 06:31 PM
was meant to say stock ecu lol. does the power taper off a bit towards redline?

Nope
http://luke.scruffie.com/ep3_haltech.jpg (http://luke.scruffie.com/ep3_haltech.jpg)

UNA91
05-07-2012, 11:15 PM
I'm getting this rattling plastic sound when go up around 3-4k rpm, it sort of sounds exactly like i'm tapping the intake manifold cover (the one that says i-vtec). It seems to sit pretty close to the manifold... just a very light tap makes a sound. Will try taking ti off and see how it goes.

butterfingers
06-07-2012, 10:46 AM
Forgot to mention another thig about the surprise mods. Te car USED to have a GruppeM in it. Back in Japan I think but he might have parted it out. Cos the scoop is still sitting there LOL

bennjamin
06-07-2012, 11:25 AM
Forgot to mention another thig about the surprise mods. Te car USED to have a GruppeM in it. Back in Japan I think but he might have parted it out. Cos the scoop is still sitting there LOL

That's importer tax.
I checked out a ep3 at Edward lees - fresh off boat - and every mod was stripped off ready for OEM parts to be fitted

butterfingers
06-07-2012, 12:53 PM
I personally wouldn't get anything from Edward lees unless they throw in those import girls with the car.

SuperSteve
06-07-2012, 01:41 PM
I personally wouldn't get anything from Edward lees unless they throw in those import girls with the car.

Even then I would still be careful cause just like their you don't know where they've been

CivicTypeR
06-07-2012, 02:13 PM
Even then I would still be careful cause just like their you don't know where they've been

LOL.

I heard it was a bit "salty" up there, so there may be some signs of decay. I'm talking about the cars btw.

bluey45
06-07-2012, 02:44 PM
LOL.

I heard it was a bit "salty" up there, so there may be some signs of decay. I'm talking about the cars btw.

LOL. Something fishy indeed.

-JC-
06-07-2012, 04:14 PM
LOL. Speaking of salt, anyone else had issues with stains on their glass from being on the boat? My rear window has some bad staining and there are hard water stains around the edges of the windscreen and side windows. Found a company that specialises in removing such stains and getting mine sorted next week. They have franchises everywhere if anyone else has the same issue.

butterfingers
06-07-2012, 04:35 PM
but thats the thing with imports, you can never be sure where theyve been or what theyve gone through. not on revs? no accident history? what about the 1st 5 years of its life back in Japan? could have a touge run and you'll never know. guess you gotta inspect and drive it for yourself lol.

bennjamin
06-07-2012, 05:06 PM
but thats the thing with imports, you can never be sure where theyve been or what theyve gone through. not on revs? no accident history? what about the 1st 5 years of its life back in Japan? could have a touge run and you'll never know. guess you gotta inspect and drive it for yourself lol.


These are 02,03 or 04 models- what about the 1st 10 years of its life in japan lol. Id say most EP3Rs have had abit of thrashing or track work.

-JC-
06-07-2012, 06:30 PM
These are 02,03 or 04 models- what about the 1st 10 years of its life in japan lol. Id say most EP3Rs have had abit of thrashing or track work.

Some are 05 models . . .

True though, mine has a few little telltale signs of mods having been removed. Badly fitting trim in the boot, scotch locks off the back of the ciggie lighter, an Apexi i-Moni on the dash and various stick on wiring clips around the dash/console. I'm not so worried about it having copped a thrashing, thats what they are built for. I would definitely recommend a decent inspection all over to check for accident damage etc though, you don't want to get your new ride home and find out its a cut and shut or something silly.

No-one else has the saltwater marks on their windows?

JDM EP3
06-07-2012, 07:00 PM
In Japan though when they go to auction don't they have records of the car being in a stack or not? I thought it was pretty strict there with their version of revs

CivicTypeR
06-07-2012, 07:31 PM
These are 02,03 or 04 models- what about the 1st 10 years of its life in japan lol. Id say most EP3Rs have had abit of thrashing or track work.

Lol nobody buys a type r to drive it like a granny :p

-JC-
06-07-2012, 07:35 PM
In Japan though when they go to auction don't they have records of the car being in a stack or not? I thought it was pretty strict there with their version of revs

They do, but that doesn't mean Edward Lee is going to tell you about it.

CivicTypeR
06-07-2012, 07:41 PM
They do, but that doesn't mean Edward Lee is going to tell you about it.

Correct. Most imports don't come with any logbook history whatsoever.

JDM EP3
06-07-2012, 07:50 PM
They do, but that doesn't mean Edward Lee is going to tell you about it.

Thats why you dont buy from a dodgy car saleman.



Correct. Most imports don't come with any logbook history whatsoever.

Seeing as I imported it myself I saw all the grade sheets and car history regarding any stacks (none obviously) They even detail any little scrapes they car may have like under the front lip. I also did get the service history logs for it too, of course in jap but you can at least guess what has been done to a certain degree and frequency.

butterfingers
06-07-2012, 08:12 PM
Thats why you dont buy from a dodgy car saleman.




Seeing as I imported it myself I saw all the grade sheets and car history regarding any stacks (none obviously) They even detail any little scrapes they car may have like under the front lip. I also did get the service history logs for it too, of course in jap but you can at least guess what has been done to a certain degree and frequency.

How did you import it yourself? What did you go through?

JDM EP3
06-07-2012, 08:30 PM
I used a broker to do all the work and inspections to find the car and ship it in Japan then had someone compliance it for me here

Icebox
06-07-2012, 08:53 PM
Thats why you dont buy from a dodgy car saleman.

Speaking of dodgy car salesman, they dont know what their selling lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O36vtWQMpuU&feature=relmfu

JDM EP3
06-07-2012, 09:31 PM
Lol vvti and no oz delivered version has recaros....

bluey45
07-07-2012, 09:26 AM
Lol vvti and no oz delivered version has recaros....

Lol. I watched that clip and almost cracked up listening to the propaganda he was saying.

Azz86
07-07-2012, 12:27 PM
Haha. Always good for a lol.

butterfingers
07-07-2012, 05:41 PM
I didn't know Toyota made Honda civic type r now

CivicTypeR
07-07-2012, 11:09 PM
Yeah.. they call it the Yaris YRX

UNA91
08-07-2012, 01:53 AM
Are race headers worth it (looking at kidd racing)? Considering the jdm headers in our ep3s are apparently pretty good already.

If i get one i'll probs be welding in a hi-flow cat to be safe, but would that negate having a race header then?

Lukezen27
08-07-2012, 10:52 AM
Are race headers worth it (looking at kidd racing)? Considering the jdm headers in our ep3s are apparently pretty good already.

If i get one i'll probs be welding in a hi-flow cat to be safe, but would that negate having a race header then?

my dyno on back two pages is with kidd racing buy with tune

122kw stock and 125kw with just kidd racing installed,, dyno proven

But a lot more than 3kw mid range

JDM EP3
08-07-2012, 10:54 AM
my dyno on back two pages is with kidd racing buy with tune

122kw stock and 125kw with just kidd racing installed,, dyno proven

But a lot more than 3kw mid range

Just installed no tune right?

Lukezen27
08-07-2012, 11:05 AM
Just installed no tune right?

Yeah 137 tuned with injen CIA

Stock
122

kidd racing no tune
125

kidd racing & Injen & Heltech
137

RPS.13
08-07-2012, 11:53 AM
Good header for the price you pay, and as mentioned they give proven gains.

Got my car dyno`ed yesterday. Results and video below.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=ULyqQRZoaiYmo&v=yqQRZoaiYmo&feature=player_detailpage

http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt212/KAIZENRPS_13/Untitled-5.jpg?t=1341669060

Gruppe M, Kiddracing headers, highflow cat, 2.5 inch FEELS cat back, stock ecu, no tune.

butterfingers
08-07-2012, 12:11 PM
I'm actually paranoid about getting dyno runs. Seen too many "dyno gone wrong" vids on YouTube.

TonyxTony
08-07-2012, 01:46 PM
If i wanna replace door speakers, which size/model should i look at?

current speakers are so crap....

white_ep3_civic
08-07-2012, 02:14 PM
If i wanna replace door speakers, which size/model should i look at?

current speakers are so crap....

6 - 6.5 inch will fit nice

UNA91
08-07-2012, 03:41 PM
Good header for the price you pay, and as mentioned they give proven gains.

Got my car dyno`ed yesterday. Results and video below.

http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt212/KAIZENRPS_13/Untitled-5.jpg?t=1341669060

Gruppe M, Kiddracing headers, highflow cat, 2.5 inch FEELS cat back, stock ecu, no tune.

Nice man, with a tune, i can imagine it would yield some nice results!

Where did you guys get your KiddRacing headers from? Only place i can find it on Ebay. Also, how much was it, including shipping?

Lukezen27
08-07-2012, 05:02 PM
Good header for the price you pay, and as mentioned they give proven gains.

Got my car dyno`ed yesterday. Results and video below.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=ULyqQRZoaiYmo&v=yqQRZoaiYmo&feature=player_detailpage

http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt212/KAIZENRPS_13/Untitled-5.jpg?t=1341669060

Gruppe M, Kiddracing headers, highflow cat, 2.5 inch FEELS cat back, stock ecu, no tune.

lol

I would not read anything into these numbers

JDM EP3
08-07-2012, 05:07 PM
lol

I would not read anything into these numbers

What do you mean man?

Lukezen27
08-07-2012, 05:14 PM
What do you mean man?

you can't get 140kw without a tune

Simple

I only trust Adrian's dyno has he know how to set the ambient temps correctly to avoid fake reading

Go check out the dyno post to get real numbers

-JC-
08-07-2012, 06:56 PM
you can't get 140kw without a tune

Simple

I only trust Adrian's dyno has he know how to set the ambient temps correctly to avoid fake reading

Go check out the dyno post to get real numbers

I must admit, I thought 140kw was high given the mods. Having said that, if that Mainline (Dynolog) Dyno is anything like the one that I had my car run on, I'm pretty sure that you can't fudge the temps at all. The Mainline (Dynolog) that I made 122.4kw on (stock) had its own weather station that measured all that stuff and applied its own corrections, unlike a Dyno Dynamics unit, which I understand relies on the operator to get the input right? I could be wrong, but that's my understanding of it.

Out of interest, what gear was that run done in? We did all of mine in 4th and it just clipped the speed limiter each time after making peak power at around 8000rpm, judging by the speed that it made peak power at, it must have been 3rd gear? Maybe that has the potential to skew figures too? I don't know enough about Dyno witchcraft to comment.

Either way, Dynos are a fantastic tuning tool, nothing more, the only 'real' way to find out home many horses you have is via an engine dyno, or 1/4 mile top speeds. I love a good dyno day, and if nothing else, I love spending the day watching hot cars get put through their paces. Loving the build so far RPS, that thing looks tough as nails on the rollers.

Lukezen27
08-07-2012, 07:10 PM
I must admit, I thought 140kw was high given the mods. Having said that, if that Mainline (Dynolog) Dyno is anything like the one that I had my car run on, I'm pretty sure that you can't fudge the temps at all. The Mainline (Dynolog) that I made 122.4kw on (stock) had its own weather station that measured all that stuff and applied its own corrections, unlike a Dyno Dynamics unit, which I understand relies on the operator to get the input right? I could be wrong, but that's my understanding of it.

Out of interest, what gear was that run done in? We did all of mine in 4th and it just clipped the speed limiter each time after making peak power at around 8000rpm, judging by the speed that it made peak power at, it must have been 3rd gear? Maybe that has the potential to skew figures too? I don't know enough about Dyno witchcraft to comment.

Either way, Dynos are a fantastic tuning tool, nothing more, the only 'real' way to find out home many horses you have is via an engine dyno, or 1/4 mile top speeds. I love a good dyno day, and if nothing else, I love spending the day watching hot cars get put through their paces. Loving the build so far RPS, that thing looks tough as nails on the rollers.

yeah ramp rates dyno setting all add to the output numbers

By the looks that dyno is setup fro RWD cars

I could be wrong but EP3 should be dyno's in 5th for the closed one to one ratio

TonyxTony
08-07-2012, 08:18 PM
6 - 6.5 inch will fit nice

Thanks

Today i finally got some time to re grease the steering rack.... but the cracking sound problem still there... only happens when the car is slow... dont know why :/

UNA91
08-07-2012, 10:12 PM
Thanks

Today i finally got some time to re grease the steering rack.... but the cracking sound problem still there... only happens when the car is slow... dont know why :/

Does it sound like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xasL72-rh0o&feature=related

If you've greased up your steering rack plenty, then I would check your swaybar endlinks/droplinks, they may worn and do make a creaking sound similar to the steering rack problem, especially going over bumps. You'll have to take the wheel off and visually inspect them, and try moving the swaybar to see if there's any play. If there is, then you may need new endlinks.

TonyxTony
08-07-2012, 10:17 PM
Does it sound like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xasL72-rh0o&feature=related

If you've greased up your steering rack plenty, then I would check your swaybar endlinks/droplinks, they may worn and do make a creaking sound similar to the steering rack problem, especially going over bumps. You'll have to take the wheel off and visually inspect them, and try moving the swaybar to see if there's any play. If there is, then you may need new endlinks.

exactly like that sound... not as often as it is in the video.... so it could be swaybar problem ?

I just took a look, the bushing on front swaybar looks pretty solid, nothing is moving...

Same as below... only happens when moving off in first, slow speed

butterfingers
08-07-2012, 10:33 PM
mine has this sound however usually only happens when moving off in first, especially a slow uphill one. its more one long creak than many little creaks.

kenny07
09-07-2012, 09:25 AM
Hey guys...

i'm planning to get PLM headers soon and i was told that it was recommended to get a hi-flow cat with it the same time..

what is the reason for this? can someone tell me?

and also if what i decide to not the get the hi-flow cat with it and just get the headers and get it installed?

wont have any issues?

UNA91
09-07-2012, 10:03 AM
Without a cat it's illegal, and may also throw off a check engine light. If you have no cat your car will stink lol and maybe backfire alot

kenny07
09-07-2012, 10:17 AM
Without a cat it's illegal, and may also throw off a check engine light. If you have no cat your car will stink lol and maybe backfire alot

cant i just use the stock one?

that was what i meant when i said "not get the hi=flow"

my bad

UNA91
09-07-2012, 10:28 AM
You can use a stock one, but it sort of defeat the purpose of getting a race header as it's more restrictive, wouldn't recommend it. A hi-flow cat is just that, there is less material inside to filter fumes; it's made to flow better while still keeping it 'legal'. Get a 100 cell hi-flow cat if you ever decide to run one

kenny07
09-07-2012, 10:34 AM
You can use a stock one, but it sort of defeat the purpose of getting a race header as it's more restrictive, wouldn't recommend it. A hi-flow cat is just that, there is less material inside to filter fumes; it's made to flow better while still keeping it 'legal'. Get a 100 cell hi-flow cat if you ever decide to run one

oh okies.. thanks!

i plan to get the headers first and then later down the track, get the rest, like exhaust and blah blah blah..

money is abit steep atm coz of rego! :(

kenny07
09-07-2012, 02:54 PM
Lol nobody buys a type r to drive it like a granny :p

LOL i drive like a granny most of the time.. :/

so if u ever see a slow moving ep3 going around then its probably me!

RPS.13
09-07-2012, 03:29 PM
I must admit, I thought 140kw was high given the mods. Having said that, if that Mainline (Dynolog) Dyno is anything like the one that I had my car run on, I'm pretty sure that you can't fudge the temps at all. The Mainline (Dynolog) that I made 122.4kw on (stock) had its own weather station that measured all that stuff and applied its own corrections, unlike a Dyno Dynamics unit, which I understand relies on the operator to get the input right? I could be wrong, but that's my understanding of it.

Out of interest, what gear was that run done in? We did all of mine in 4th and it just clipped the speed limiter each time after making peak power at around 8000rpm, judging by the speed that it made peak power at, it must have been 3rd gear? Maybe that has the potential to skew figures too? I don't know enough about Dyno witchcraft to comment.

Either way, Dynos are a fantastic tuning tool, nothing more, the only 'real' way to find out home many horses you have is via an engine dyno, or 1/4 mile top speeds. I love a good dyno day, and if nothing else, I love spending the day watching hot cars get put through their paces. Loving the build so far RPS, that thing looks tough as nails on the rollers.

Thanks for the comments man. Yeah I'm not too sure what gear it was run in? I can try look at the other videos and see if I can hear what gear it got up too.


yeah ramp rates dyno setting all add to the output numbers

By the looks that dyno is setup fro RWD cars

I could be wrong but EP3 should be dyno's in 5th for the closed one to one ratio

I missed the the morning session of when all the other FWD cars were run. My car was run after the first group of RWD were done so you could be right.

butterfingers
09-07-2012, 03:30 PM
LOL i drive like a granny most of the time.. :/

so if u ever see a slow moving ep3 going around then its probably me!

with traffic driving like a granny is always the case

CivicTypeR
09-07-2012, 05:01 PM
Spotted a black EP3 today at Quakers Hill Parkway, turning in to Stanhope.

brody
09-07-2012, 05:50 PM
cant i just use the stock one?

that was what i meant when i said "not get the hi=flow"

my bad

Even if you used the OEM cat.. you'll have to modify it. As well as any other after market cat, whether its hi flow or not. BYP racing are selling PLM headers and a modified highflow cat to fit.. at a price that is.

kenny07
09-07-2012, 07:16 PM
Even if you used the OEM cat.. you'll have to modify it. As well as any other after market cat, whether its hi flow or not. BYP racing are selling PLM headers and a modified highflow cat to fit.. at a price that is.

yeah i know.. they were the ones who told me it was recommended with a hi-flow cat

think they are doign it for around 450 for the hi-flow

Mikeyy168
09-07-2012, 11:16 PM
the oem cat is too big if you chuck in the headers. it has to be modified. you should save enough money for the header/cat and catback at the same time so it can all be done in the one go. less cost for labour and less headaches if u run into problems like i did.

brody
10-07-2012, 01:29 AM
Exhaust shop should be able to do it for 300 - 350. That includes the price of the cat used. I'll be getting it done next time I'm down. Just make sure whoever you go through, that they don't touch your header or catback. Only the cat.

brody
10-07-2012, 01:33 AM
Sorry that price is for modifying the cat and welding appropriate flanges. Not sure on cost of installation of header/cat.

Price is an estimate btw.

patto
10-07-2012, 11:20 AM
I'm just wondering what oils/fluids you guys are using. Engine and transmission. Any recommendations, particularly with engine oils?

UNA91
10-07-2012, 12:25 PM
For engine oil i use Valvoline Synpower 10w40, cause I get good deals on it.
Transmission oil, i only stick to Honda MTF, any other and the gears act funny (grinding, lockouts, notchy)...

lionhart87
10-07-2012, 01:21 PM
has anyone had their alternator bearings replaced?
if so, where did you source the bearings?

RPS.13
10-07-2012, 01:27 PM
I'm just wondering what oils/fluids you guys are using. Engine and transmission. Any recommendations, particularly with engine oils?

I was previously using Castrol Edge 5w30, which was really good. I can no longer get 20% off at Autobarn (All my photocopied/fake entertainment book vouchers have all expired). So I'm currently using the Calibre 5w30 Full Synthetic from Supercheap, good oil for the price and handy if you burn through your oil, as you get 5.5ltrs in a bottle. Doesn't run as smooth as the Castrol, but I don't mind it and it is a lot cheaper. I'll be reverting back to the Castrol oil for track days though.

+1 for Honda MTF.

Poeter
10-07-2012, 01:39 PM
Been using Royal Purp 10w40 and Honda MTF3

Mikeyy168
10-07-2012, 02:13 PM
Sorry that price is for modifying the cat and welding appropriate flanges. Not sure on cost of installation of header/cat.

Price is an estimate btw.

with a price like that you may aswell get the high flow cat and a defouler installed instead of just modifying the OEM cat (defeats the purpose of getting headers...)

brody
10-07-2012, 03:56 PM
with a price like that you may aswell get the high flow cat and a defouler installed instead of just modifying the OEM cat (defeats the purpose of getting headers...)

I meant aftermarket hi flow which is why the price is what it is (hi flow cat being $200). Yes oem would be a waste of time.

brody
10-07-2012, 04:03 PM
Ok, so finally got start my car up today after it being on jacks for 2 and a bit months, (Changed clutch/Flywheel and radiator but ran into some problems) and it wasn't what i was hoping at all.

- Revs are surging when car is warm (Yes I am aware of preivous posts, and from other forums). Continues when your driving (Took it for a drive as some people have said to take it for a drive, just to see if anything as blocked the throttle bottle from opening/closing properly.
- Second Gear isnt working.

Transmission fluid is topped up. Coolant was obviously just changed. Cant see of any hoses that are disconnected to cause vacuum leak.

Any suggestions for both issues?

Cheers guys


BTW my experience with mishimoto was far from what I expected.

JDM EP3
10-07-2012, 04:08 PM
Ok, so finally got start my car up today after it being on jacks for 2 and a bit months, (Changed clutch/Flywheel and radiator but ran into some problems) and it wasn't what i was hoping at all.

- Revs are surging when car is warm (Yes I am aware of preivous posts, and from other forums). Continues when your driving (Took it for a drive as some people have said to take it for a drive, just to see if anything as blocked the throttle bottle from opening/closing properly.
- Second Gear isnt working.

Transmission fluid is topped up. Coolant was obviously just changed. Cant see of any hoses that are disconnected to cause vacuum leak.

Any suggestions for both issues?

Cheers guys


BTW my experience with mishimoto was far from what I expected.

Don't know about second gear but with the surge its possible that you need to bleed the system of air. So you need to take the radiator cap off and run the car for an hour or so so that all the air is pushed out of the system

brody
10-07-2012, 05:25 PM
Why would this cause it to up and down idle? Just curious

As normal I ran it with the cap off, no bubbles, but wasn't for an hour.

JDM EP3
10-07-2012, 07:11 PM
Why would this cause it to up and down idle? Just curious

As normal I ran it with the cap off, no bubbles, but wasn't for an hour.

Just due to the fact that their is pockets of air travelling through the system. Im not 100% sure as to why this happens but when I was a noob I had this happen to me. After I bled the air out of the system the idle hunt went away.

brody
10-07-2012, 07:23 PM
Alrighty. So just leave it hunting for a while and see if it does anything.
Cheers for that:)

mocchi
10-07-2012, 07:58 PM
Why would this cause it to up and down idle? Just curious

As normal I ran it with the cap off, no bubbles, but wasn't for an hour.

maybe ecu thinks ect is not yet at normal operating temp so it will raise idle
then car heats up lil bit more, it drops idle. cycle continues because of the air pockets

but tps can also cause erratic idle. (high voltage)

jack car up high and rev it about 3k rpm to get more coolant flow
once tstat opens, you will have plenty of bubbles come up

these kinda funnel is really good for bleeding coolant.

http://i451.photobucket.com/albums/qq240/bt2580/For%20Links/Water%20Pump%20DIY/IMG_2126.jpg

brody
10-07-2012, 08:10 PM
Tstat is open. Been running for 40 minutes and no change.
No more air bubbles as the coolant stays the same level.
Dammit!

mocchi
10-07-2012, 08:12 PM
Tstat is open. Been running for 40 minutes and no change.
No more air bubbles as the coolant stays the same level.
Dammit!

must be your iacv then? clean it up.
buy torx screw and open it up and clean it again
then lubricate it with wd40

mocchi
10-07-2012, 08:14 PM
explain what problems you have when swapping clutch
cant go in second gear when engine is running or when engine is off or both?

brody
10-07-2012, 08:24 PM
Something weird. Turn the steering wheel then stop, and the car returns to normal idle for a second or two then goes back.
Will be taking it to an auto sparky my week off. It can sit for a couple of weeks and think about what's its done.

UNA91
11-07-2012, 03:24 PM
My revs drop a little below idle when I creep forward then stop with the clutch in as you would do in a traffic jam, crowded car park or reverse parking. I just feels like the car is going to stall, and it's not like i'm pressing the clutch in too late before i stop either.

The car shudders abit then goes back to normal idle... sometimes its so obvious that even my lights dim abit lol It's been like this for awhile too. anyone have this problem?

Poeter
11-07-2012, 04:46 PM
My revs drop a little below idle when I creep forward then stop with the clutch in as you would do in a traffic jam, crowded car park or reverse parking. I just feels like the car is going to stall, and it's not like i'm pressing the clutch in too late before i stop either.

The car shudders abit then goes back to normal idle... sometimes its so obvious that even my lights dim abit lol It's been like this for awhile too. anyone have this problem?

I see this on both of my ep3's (prefl & fl). Not too sure why this happens.

brody
11-07-2012, 04:55 PM
must be your iacv then? clean it up.
buy torx screw and open it up and clean it again
then lubricate it with wd40
Yeh will give that a go on my break.


explain what problems you have when swapping clutch
cant go in second gear when engine is running or when engine is off or both?
no problems when installing the clutch sorry (just radiator).
Will have to double check that.. forgot whether it was both or not.

Icebox
11-07-2012, 06:59 PM
Anyone know if a coilover kit ment for the EU chassis fit into the ep3 ? cause i got offered reasonable price for a set of pedders extreme XA adjustable coilovers

but what stopped me was it was ment for an EU and i dont know whether i should go for the DC5r ones instead?

UNA91
11-07-2012, 07:24 PM
EU as in UK version of the EP3? If so, i believe it should fit.

Icebox
11-07-2012, 07:28 PM
EU as in UK version of the EP3? If so, i believe it should fit.

yeah to my understanding is EU is the civic hatchbacks we have here, but i was under the impression that its a different chassis?

but i hope there the same cause i heard pedders coilovers are pretty good stuff hahaha

bennjamin
11-07-2012, 07:36 PM
EU as in UK version of the EP3? If so, i believe it should fit.

EU is the 5 door chassis....released all over the world with a d17 SOHC power house. Apparently the suspension is quite similar to the EP3R - you MIGHT have to shave the rear a slight amount off the lower bush (ala DC5R suspension)

EP3 IS a UK designed and made chassis...do you mean the EP3R sold in the UK ? (different seats , other bits and no LSD compared to the JDM sold EP3R)

Icebox
11-07-2012, 08:54 PM
EU is the 5 door chassis....released all over the world with a d17 SOHC power house. Apparently the suspension is quite similar to the EP3R - you MIGHT have to shave the rear a slight amount off the lower bush (ala DC5R suspension)

EP3 IS a UK designed and made chassis...do you mean the EP3R sold in the UK ? (different seats , other bits and no LSD compared to the JDM sold EP3R)


judging from what your saying it should be a straight swap with the suspension so i guess i wouldnt have to worry about it that much then phew~

UNA91
11-07-2012, 11:37 PM
Lol my bad, forgot about the 5 door versions of our car :P

kenny07
12-07-2012, 05:32 PM
You can use a stock one, but it sort of defeat the purpose of getting a race header as it's more restrictive, wouldn't recommend it. A hi-flow cat is just that, there is less material inside to filter fumes; it's made to flow better while still keeping it 'legal'. Get a 100 cell hi-flow cat if you ever decide to run one

what about a 200 cel cat? any good?

aRze
12-07-2012, 07:46 PM
Anyone know if a coilover kit ment for the EU chassis fit into the ep3 ? cause i got offered reasonable price for a set of pedders extreme XA adjustable coilovers

but what stopped me was it was ment for an EU and i dont know whether i should go for the DC5r ones instead?

DC5 coilovers aren't straight swap.

Good chance EU won't fit EP3 as Tein make separate ones for both the EU/ES and the EP3

That's all I know

JDM EP3
12-07-2012, 08:44 PM
DC5 coilovers aren't straight swap.

Good chance EU won't fit EP3 as Tein make separate ones for both the EU/ES and the EP3

That's all I know

Yeah I also kinda thought this as well. I didnt think the EP3 would share the same suspension setup as a EU/ES.

UNA91
13-07-2012, 12:17 AM
what about a 200 cel cat? any good?

200 cell is fine, but of course will be more restrictive than 100 cell, but better than oem which are typically around 600-800 cell in most production cars. The less cells, the bigger the size of the passages, thus more flow.

butterfingers
13-07-2012, 09:38 AM
anyone here sourced OEM wheel bearings before? rears have exessive play, and tie rod ends are worn too, time to get inverted ones

places/people/prices would be good thx

Icebox
13-07-2012, 01:03 PM
Yeah I also kinda thought this as well. I didnt think the EP3 would share the same suspension setup as a EU/ES.

your actually correct, they dont share the same suspension setup, so i was talking to my mate,and apparently they have a different kits for EU and EP

apparently nuts and bolts are different? have to wait and see tomorrow to find out

patto
13-07-2012, 03:11 PM
anyone here sourced OEM wheel bearings before? rears have exessive play, and tie rod ends are worn too, time to get inverted ones

places/people/prices would be good thx

According to this thread, $400 seems to be the going rate??

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?138783-EP3-Wheel-bearing

butterfingers
13-07-2012, 03:37 PM
According to this thread, $400 seems to be the going rate??

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?138783-EP3-Wheel-bearing

thx champ legend.

CivicTypeR
13-07-2012, 04:50 PM
Hey quick question guys,

Would the engine mounts from the Civic Si (US) fit the EP3R?

Icebox
13-07-2012, 05:05 PM
Hey quick question guys,

Would the engine mounts from the Civic Si (US) fit the EP3R?

it should fit, the civic si is running the same ep3 chassis so you shouldnt have much problems with it.

what mounts were u going to go with?

kenny07
13-07-2012, 05:27 PM
200 cell is fine, but of course will be more restrictive than 100 cell, but better than oem which are typically around 600-800 cell in most production cars. The less cells, the bigger the size of the passages, thus more flow.

oh i didn't know that! i thought highter cell would be better! :/

thanks man!

UNA91
13-07-2012, 05:40 PM
Man, low car + mugen lip is a pain. scrape and crack mania, fiberglass is too fragile for me lol

and yes, the civic si mounts will definitely fit.

CivicTypeR
13-07-2012, 06:08 PM
it should fit, the civic si is running the same ep3 chassis so you shouldnt have much problems with it.

what mounts were u going to go with?

was planning on the innovative 85A, just wanted to make sure the SI fitted the Type R :p

Perry
13-07-2012, 09:20 PM
Man, low car + mugen lip is a pain. scrape and crack mania, fiberglass is too fragile for me lol

and yes, the civic si mounts will definitely fit.

Dont say that I was planning on going that option later on got any pics of your ride?

stienerv2
13-07-2012, 09:36 PM
Fibreglass? Perry you get can something in UK thats mugen style but plastic. My mate got one and it was a tight fit. But yeah, do it!!

Perry
14-07-2012, 01:20 AM
Fibreglass? Perry you get can something in UK thats mugen style but plastic. My mate got one and it was a tight fit. But yeah, do it!!

Nah i heard the plastic ones has fitment issues I dont want to deal with that.

UNA91
14-07-2012, 04:46 PM
Dont say that I was planning on going that option later on got any pics of your ride?

Original mugen lip is fiberglass. The lip really makes your front bumper look low compared to the sides, but it really sets the car off. Recently I've started to love the look of the walker japan front lip.

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http://static2.ozhonda.com/forum/images/misc/pencil.png

JDM EP3
14-07-2012, 07:48 PM
Does any one have a diy on how to pop out the tie rod ends and remove the whole tie rod from the steering bracket?

Azz86
14-07-2012, 07:52 PM
Hey just wondering where you guys buy OEM parts from? I'm after a drive belt and MTF. Would you go to your Honda dealership for this? Thanks.

butterfingers
14-07-2012, 08:28 PM
Hey just wondering where you guys buy OEM parts from? I'm after a drive belt and MTF. Would you go to your Honda dealership for this? Thanks.

Yea but they have to order from Japan.

UNA91
14-07-2012, 09:54 PM
Dealerships would usually ask you to go the their honda parts store, but their mtf should be readily available off their shelves.

patto
14-07-2012, 10:40 PM
Yeah I just picked up a few bottles of MTF from my local dealer today :)

UNA91
14-07-2012, 10:42 PM
Has anyone done a Jdm dc5 brembo front brake conversion? apart from needing s2k size rotors and possibly spacers for clearance; through searching, i'd apparently need jdm dc5 lca, axles and knuckles. Thing is i'm not sure if they are talking about the non-jdm ep3 and whether or not this applies to the jdm ep3

bluey45
15-07-2012, 12:22 AM
Spotted a ep3 with white volks on the m4 exit to parra just now. Waved and said hi. :D

Icebox
15-07-2012, 12:37 AM
Spotted a ep3 with white volks on the m4 exit to parra just now. Waved and said hi. :D

That was me!! from the looks of it, you live a street infront of me small world hahaha, but sorry if i was speeding nature calls LOL~

Perry
15-07-2012, 12:58 AM
Has anyone done a Jdm dc5 brembo front brake conversion? apart from needing s2k size rotors and possibly spacers for clearance; through searching, i'd apparently need jdm dc5 lca, axles and knuckles. Thing is i'm not sure if they are talking about the non-jdm ep3 and whether or not this applies to the jdm ep3

All u need is s2k rotors to fit.

bluey45
15-07-2012, 01:02 AM
That was me!! from the looks of it, you live a street infront of me small world hahaha, but sorry if i was speeding nature calls LOL~

Ahahah. All good mate. Small world hey. You should come by for a drink and to the club itr meet on 24/7/12. Very clean car mate. Loving those volks and very nicely lowered :D

Azz86
15-07-2012, 06:41 AM
Thanks lads. I'll give them a go. Tried Supercheap and Repco for the belt. No chance whatsoever.

Azz86
15-07-2012, 06:45 AM
Does any one have a diy on how to pop out the tie rod ends and remove the whole tie rod from the steering bracket?

Undo the nut until it is flush with the end of the bolt. Start hammering. Did this once before. Came off pretty easily.

Symphorced
15-07-2012, 01:57 PM
Undo the nut until it is flush with the end of the bolt. Start hammering. Did this once before. Came off pretty easily.

Or just use a ball joint seperator. But that's for the tie rod end. The tie rod itself you need to get under the rubber boot and get wrenchin! Not an easy job. :p

UNA91
15-07-2012, 03:28 PM
All u need is s2k rotors to fit.

Sure about this? Cause there's a set of calipers for sale that I might consider getting, and I'll have to source some s2k rotors. Is it even worth upgrading to brembos besides the bling? lol

bluey45
15-07-2012, 03:51 PM
Sure about this? Cause there's a set of calipers for sale that I might consider getting, and I'll have to source some s2k rotors. Is it even worth upgrading to brembos besides the bling? lol

I think if you track your car its worth it. I was thinking of going the same route too but ended up just getting slotted rotors, braided lines and some ferrodo/ endless pads.

butterfingers
15-07-2012, 04:13 PM
What exactly do braided lines do for your car?

Tai
15-07-2012, 04:28 PM
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/auto-parts/brakes/brake-parts/brake-lines5.htm




What exactly do braided lines do for your car?

kyzz
15-07-2012, 05:04 PM
Still got my Tien rear strut bar for sale if you guys want to grab it!

JDM EP3
15-07-2012, 07:12 PM
Undo the nut until it is flush with the end of the bolt. Start hammering. Did this once before. Came off pretty easily.
Yeah i undid the nut that holds the camber angle in place bit couldnt get it out.


Or just use a ball joint seperator. But that's for the tie rod end. The tie rod itself you need to get under the rubber boot and get wrenchin! Not an easy job. :p

I did try to use a ball joint separator that i bought from super cheap but it didnt help get the tie rod seperated from the suspension. For th actual tie rod itself are you saying to undo it from the boot in the middle? Is it necessary to fold back the crush washers between the steering bracket? As you said it doesnt seem like an easy job at all.

brody
15-07-2012, 07:39 PM
anyone here sourced OEM wheel bearings before? rears have exessive play, and tie rod ends are worn too, time to get inverted ones

places/people/prices would be good thx

I got mine off eBay. Just looked up Ep3 bearing or wheel hub bearing.
Just under $200 shipped from what I can remember. It's a UK seller but reasonable price and decent shipping time.

Icebox
15-07-2012, 08:14 PM
Ahahah. All good mate. Small world hey. You should come by for a drink and to the club itr meet on 24/7/12. Very clean car mate. Loving those volks and very nicely lowered :D

Thanks dude, i had a lot of people bagging me out cause of the volks on the ep3 wouldnt suite

club itr meet, i'll have to see i got asked to go by a friend but my day job kinda gets in the way of going to the meet lol~ even so it starts at 6:30 haha,

but if i do, you'll spot me haha

butterfingers
15-07-2012, 08:26 PM
Thanks dude, i had a lot of people bagging me out cause of the volks on the ep3 wouldnt suite

club itr meet, i'll have to see i got asked to go by a friend but my day job kinda gets in the way of going to the meet lol~ even so it starts at 6:30 haha,

but if i do, you'll spot me haha

What kind of ****ing idiots think that? How would they not suit? Find new friends lol

Icebox
15-07-2012, 08:41 PM
What kind of ****ing idiots think that? How would they not suit? Find new friends lol

LOL funny thing about that, its not my friend saying it, its always people at the lights in evos and silvias telling me it just doesnt look right, but i just shrug it off

cause the look some people give when the gf drive the car on her Ls with those wheels is kinda priceless

-JC-
15-07-2012, 08:48 PM
LOL funny thing about that, its not my friend saying it, its always people at the lights in evos and silvias telling me it just doesnt look right, but i just shrug it off

cause the look some people give when the gf drive the car on her Ls with those wheels is kinda priceless

People in Silvias? What, cause your rims are worth more than their car?

Icebox
15-07-2012, 08:52 PM
People in Silvias? What, cause your rims are worth more than their car?

who knows, but if only they knew how much i got it for, they would really be shocked hehehe

butterfingers
15-07-2012, 09:15 PM
LOL it suits more than deep dishes on an ep3

Perry
15-07-2012, 09:38 PM
Sure about this? Cause there's a set of calipers for sale that I might consider getting, and I'll have to source some s2k rotors. Is it even worth upgrading to brembos besides the bling? lol

and spacers as its only used to clear your rims keep in mind after going s2k rotors I think your offset will be different so rim selection will be different as well. I thought about going with that particular brakes setup but instead of using s2k rotors you could get custom mounts which will retain using your original ep3 spec rotors that's just another option though. Honestly if you track alot than do it other than that ill go for the bling if it's cheap. It all adds up budget what you want first, sometimes it adds up just getting aftermarket ones instead.

butterfingers
15-07-2012, 10:16 PM
Spoon calipers or dc5 brembos? Blue pill or red pill? Down the rabbit hole
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