Explain to me how you achieve 100% VE with an NA engine. As long as your intake manifold has a vacuum, you will NEVER reach 100% VE.Quote:
Originally Posted by jugbugz
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Explain to me how you achieve 100% VE with an NA engine. As long as your intake manifold has a vacuum, you will NEVER reach 100% VE.Quote:
Originally Posted by jugbugz
Well we all know that as a rule that N/A engines do not operate at 100% VE. But in a very narrow RPM it does hit 100% and some surpass 100% with tuned motors.Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
iVTEC does brings a broader range of high VE throughout the RPM compared to VTEC. But its not impossible to hit 100% VE with a N/A motor, just not everywhere in the RPM.
Of course Turbos can do it but thats cheating :D
Anyway while we were on the topic of these things I thought I'd post this interesting page about HONDA's background. Its a good read!
http://www.ek9.org/forum/engine/2631...enjoy-ek9.html
I know I'm nitpicking, but in the article, he said hp/litre means volumetric efficiency which is incorrect. And the paragraphs after the VTEC section was disappointing. He did a good job of writing up the racing history though.
Cant be assed reading the whole thread, but theres a writeup about it in todays Herald Sun Cars Guide about it. Honda are tipping it to spank the Nissan GT-R around the Nurburgring.
Price listed at $150k mark.
$150k for a car that is more expensive to build than the old NSX? I hope it comes out at that price!Quote:
Originally Posted by Z
OMG!!! I watched it like 10 times...LOL...It sounds even better than the other video.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fr3aKi3
Well you know that its their doing final/official testings when they have a Porsche 911 following behind them (and in this case also in front).
IS THE REAR SLIDING @ 3:10
WHAT A BEAST!!!
Comparing just the speed of the NSX entering and exiting the corners, it does seem to be quicker than the old GTR vids. (unless this NSX vid is being played in fast motion)Quote:
Originally Posted by ShAwNeX
MUGEN finally has something awesome to work with.
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Originally Posted by Z
The article did not say it will be listed at $150K, it stated that it will be ABOVE the $150K mark... Can be $170K or $200K for all we know....
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Originally Posted by Z
is there a link to the sun herald article or is it in the paper only? couldnt find it on their site or drive.com.au
I know I exagerated it a bit but my point is just that they do hit 100% VE narrowly and over on tuned engines. VE means how much air is filled in the cylinder per RPM. If it's fully filled then its 100% VE. 80% filled is 80% VE. Thats where that paragraph after vtec came from. Thats what I learnt anyway.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
It came from the Herald Sun so the figures mean nothing anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by EuroAccord13
There is a big difference between, $150k and $150k+Quote:
Originally Posted by Z
Damn, that would look pretty hot... kinda like Ferrari/Maserati styling. But please don't call it NSX... anything else...Quote:
Originally Posted by Malenic1981
I like the front but not the rear.... especially the stacked square exhaust.Quote:
Originally Posted by EK9
Look's like an S2000 had sex with a Maserati
If I'm not mistaken SH-AWD increases speed to the outer wheels (correct me if i'm wrong) and @ 3:13 it looked like the left wheels sped up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0OTEZDAb9c
Call it S5000 GT-R lol
The right wheel probably also sped up at the same time. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by ShAwNeX
fwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrk
Sounds so good, I reckon it sounds better than the F430.
It's totally different to the typical sharp and electronic Honda soundQuote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
Any chance of ADVANCED VTEC and dual clutch? If so then this car would have every piece of technology that Honda has.
Sounds like a DSG to me because of how quick the gearchanges are.
its ok, i like the body of the old one alot more. this one reminds me of a european car
If it looks like the Autoexpress artist impression-it's going to be a very good looking car.
The old NSX still looks great but seems dated compared to the GTR and Toyota's LF-A.
The challenge for Honda is to get it right-todays competition is extremely fierce it needs to stand out as a viable alternative not just to Japanese high performance cars but also to European exotics eg Porsche.
Once it's seen as viable competitor it needs to again stretch the performance boundries with a Type R version to follow.
Let's hope unlike the NSX ,it will develop this car as the years go by-Honda was quite woeful and neglectful in it's NSX "development"and as everyone saw the competiton not only made up lost ground but surpassed Honda.
sounds like a higher displacement V configuration engine, dosn't have that screamer engine sound like Ferrari 360 or 430, yet not like a big bore sound apparent from popular muscle cars thesedays
and sounds like they have to fine tune the gearbox :p downshift rev match sounds slow...
um.. will this be 2+2 seating configuration? if they can beat the gtr in the track honda is making a legend killer!!!
I disagree. It sounds better than the F430, which DOESN'T have the scream of the F360.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blitzen
Interior photo
http://www.motorauthority.com/images...hority_006.jpg
You can actually see the paddle shift thingy.
You can also just make out the 7,000 rpm numeral which seems to be locatedQuote:
Originally Posted by ShAwNeX
only half way up around the tacho dial.
Redline is 8500 rpm. I'm guessing cutout should be 9000rpm.Quote:
Originally Posted by fasthonda
http://sohc.vtec.net/news_files/775929/as_nsx-06.jpg
its looking alot better than the advanced sports car concept at tokyo auto salon. correct me if im wrong. this is the restyled version of that?
http://www.vtec.net/news/news-image?.../as_nsx-07.jpg
check this out. The tacho is till 10,000 rpm. I guess it would manage to rev until 9k rpm. Damn.... should love the sound of it
That thing has Takata harness.Quote:
Originally Posted by ALN
I sort of like it.....Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
I like tyhe concept, but needs to be a little bit fatter on the rear...
Looks too much like a nissan or supra for my liking.
I'd still give my left nut to own one...
hopefully this sounds better than galardo, i've heard the galardo beeing reved to the redline sounds like an earthquake and than near ther redline the sound undescribable, very crazy.
You can find youtube clips of it pounding out laps at the Nur.Quote:
Originally Posted by sitta
I think temple of vtec had some on their site.
I think it sounded so good! *drools*
I hope honda would make more power though... They've always impressed us all with the 100+ hp per litre. 600bhp(5.5 = 110hp per litre) would be nice... :)
i read somewhe on TOV that it'll have 600ps...Quote:
Originally Posted by jugbugz
DB9 anyone ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Malenic1981
wtf it does look like a db9Quote:
Originally Posted by tiksie
The pix above is not the real unmasked. It's called 'artist impression' ;)
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Originally Posted by Malenic1981
DB9 ...Quote:
Originally Posted by tiksie
http://www.desktopcar.net/wallpaper/...tin_DB9-09.jpg
or Supra
http://images.sportcompactcarweb.com...+side_view.jpg
Either way that shits whack ...
why didn't they just develop the beautiful HSC design :(
http://fp.images.autos.msn.com/meris...bbAcuraHSC.jpg
looks like it is going to be a let down
just a front engined coupe
maybe the engine will be good..
the nsx had real soul, midship rwd, aluminium body.. engine was boring though
this seems the opposite
lol what do you mean let down.
first test run at nurberg running 7.37's. much faster than the old nsxR which ran 7 50 something i believe.
this will munch the new gtr i'm sure with some tweaks here and there.
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Originally Posted by GTRVspec95
Maybe they not using the HSC design because the engine was in the rear.. Where as the new NSX is in the front.. BTW Honda sources have quoted that it will not be called the NSX because it has nothing to do with the NSX philosophy..
design wiseQuote:
Originally Posted by preludacris
engine will be the sex though
it will be called the honda db9 or honda vanquish maybe.
honda prelude 6th gen:cool:
i was told by one of the honda aust head honchos at this stage it's unlikely this will be sold in australia :(
...until the vspec comes out lolQuote:
Originally Posted by preludacris
I don't blame them, especially after the poor record of new NSX sales. They do need to bring the FD2 Type R in! haha. Honda will be bleeding in the sports hatch/sedan market when the Ralliart Lancer is released here. Then the EVO X will be the nail in the coffin.Quote:
Originally Posted by panda[cRx]
i saw the first evo x roll off the truck today. looks like the nail is already in lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
Be good if it isn't sold locally. Means we can import it eventually.
Yep the NSX was a disappointment in terms of sales.The outgoing NSX was $225,000?so one can imagine what would be the price of this V10 machine.Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
The FD2 would certainly be a competitor to the WRX and Ralliart-but I don't think it could match it with the EVO X or STI in terms of performance and everyday driving.
I think and I hate to say it,the next generation of Type Rs may need to be turbo or supercharged.
It's just becoming increasingly difficult for Honda to compete with these force fed cars.
honda should def do a SC-CTR.
they'd still be different cause everyone else is going turbo and it would certainly put them ahead
For those who'll be able to afford it! hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by xplod_accord
more like a ferrari 599 and the AUDM CTR had a baby lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by xxxlude
holy crap man, rather save up for a house then.
but it looks bloody sex'd
Just admit your wrong, your information is horrid.Quote:
Originally Posted by jugbugz
Almost never gonna happen. Honda have always prided themselves on achieving big numbers via NA. The FD2 is more than worthy in a battle with the Evo X and STi. Look at the AMS S2000 at Superlap last year. Just 300PS with 1,200kg body and ran 56s. At the track it's all about linear power delivery and mid corner grip. For a FWD the FD2 has bucketloads of both.Quote:
Originally Posted by fasthonda
Volkswagen says :wave:Quote:
Originally Posted by kraiye
They are rolling out direct injection twin charge engines across their entire range over the next 2 years. Quite alot of other Eu manufacturers are developing the same technology. It's the way force fed engines will be heading.
Are we still saying N/A engines dont hit over 100% VE? :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Sp33~
http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=152096
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volumetric_efficiency
V10 + Turbo + ATTS would frighten the living daylights out of my GT-R.Quote:
Originally Posted by fasthonda
It'd be competitive with the R35 & GT2 I'm sure. I do trust Honda R & D.
Ourselves? We can only speculate :confused:
You need to pad up the mushy thing at the controls, buff them up with a few things to make them almost immortal ;)
LanEvos and latest STis do this very well =P
Honda Asiapac's president says that the Honda brand is strong here and hence there won't be any Acura in Australia. So we won't get the NSX. I think he needs to put the weed down and realise that in Australia, Honda goes against Mazda, Subaru and Toyota. Not BMW and Audi like he is dreaming about.
http://carsales.com.au/car-review/2990765.aspx
or they could rebadge it a honda? lol i wish
would it be safe to suggest the new accord cylinder deactivation tech for city/street driving. v10 to at least a v4 for low fuel consumption.
Possibly V6, i dont know if 4 cyclinders will be enough.
The accord wipes out half its cylinders, i dont see the NSX deactivating much more than half IFF it does have the technology in the first place.
Its not being built as a daily driver as such so i do doubt it.
Enough for what? The accord only goes to 3cylinder mode when there's little to no strain on the engine, and the accord would weigh more then the new NSX.Quote:
Originally Posted by gumus89
Random... A thread dedicated to the Honda NSX and you want more pics of S2Ks =|
Go check ---> http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=26
no. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by bobbysarah
Ha Ha..Quote:
Originally Posted by Type R Positive
Here you go!
now please lay off the crack, thanks
^^^^ lol
Yep, you said that already.
where're the mods?
who is this joker?
i told you to lay off the crack! thanks
Seeing as you asked so nicely this time around...
isnt this thread about nsx? lolQuote:
Originally Posted by bobbysarah