k20A2 dyno figures

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13-08-2008, 11:39 PM
mikoZ

k20A2 dyno figures

hi guys, i got my car tuned by DYNODAVE
here is my results

modify at the monent
JDM RBC IM
SPOON 70 MM TB
MUGEN 4-2-1 EXHAUST MANIFOLD WITH MUGEN CAT
GRUPPE M INTAKE
kpro

http://a623.ac-images.myspacecdn.com...213ccedd26.jpg
15-08-2008, 01:11 PM
devilution

nice! wat exhaust ur running?
15-08-2008, 01:13 PM
mr_vtec

what you pull i cant see anything llol.
15-08-2008, 01:14 PM
JasonGilholme

whats the deal with blanking out dates and times? i under stand the rego but dates and times??

also, the first run was uncorrected compared to the second. that might be a big difference between runs.

also, what gear was it done in?? does 4th only go to 150 in the K20?
15-08-2008, 01:18 PM
JDM.Power

135kw.. not bad
what gear was this done in?
15-08-2008, 02:44 PM
fatboyz39

4th gear
15-08-2008, 03:55 PM
votek

126kw is stock?
17-08-2008, 09:19 PM
mikoZ

is runing @ 4th gear
17-08-2008, 09:22 PM
mikoZ

Quote:

Originally Posted by JasonGilholme

whats the deal with blanking out dates and times? i under stand the rego but dates and times??

also, the first run was uncorrected compared to the second. that might be a big difference between runs.

also, what gear was it done in?? does 4th only go to 150 in the K20?

haha ~ really dun know y i did that...
i did this dyno after i install the rbc im and 70mm tb
before i did the gruppe m intake, mugen 421 ex manifold+cat, and custom cat-back
20-08-2008, 01:49 AM
BusterSonic12

I also did a few runs with my dc5R running K20A2 at toda workshop. When the car was totally stock it ran 109.2kw, then after fitting the gruppe m and trust tiC catback i acheved a figure of 119.x kw and followed up with a mugen n1 ecu and got a reading of 122.6kw. Didn't seem like a big gain with the ecu because we stopped the run at 8200rpm so i think it had more potential in it, since the ecu can allow it to rev up to 9100rpm.

Didnt run it to the max because i'm still using stock valve springs & dont want to risk it. the mugen ecu gave an awesome gain in the midrange revs. It's superb.
20-08-2008, 08:33 AM
Tofu

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikoZ

haha ~ really dun know y i did that...
i did this dyno after i install the rbc im and 70mm tb
before i did the gruppe m intake, mugen 421 ex manifold+cat, and custom cat-back

so you gained 8-9kw from the RBC and 70mm tb??
20-08-2008, 08:35 AM
Nepolian

Quote:

Originally Posted by JasonGilholme

does 4th only go to 150 in the K20?

K20 is 6spd, 150 is about right. 160 if revved a little higher!

Quote:

Originally Posted by BusterSonic12

I also did a few runs with my dc5R running K20A2 at toda workshop. When the car was totally stock it ran 109.2kw, then after fitting the gruppe m and trust tiC catback i acheved a figure of 119.x kw and followed up with a mugen n1 ecu and got a reading of 122.6kw. Didn't seem like a big gain with the ecu because we stopped the run at 8200rpm so i think it had more potential in it, since the ecu can allow it to rev up to 9100rpm.

Didnt run it to the max because i'm still using stock valve springs & dont want to risk it. the mugen ecu gave an awesome gain in the midrange revs. It's superb.

^^Good gains. Toda dyno is pretty much on par with its read outs and not hyperinflated like some!
21-08-2008, 04:05 AM
mikoZ

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tofu

so you gained 8-9kw from the RBC and 70mm tb??

eah...
21-08-2008, 08:53 AM
BusterSonic12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tofu

so you gained 8-9kw from the RBC and 70mm tb??

is 8-9kw gain from RBC manifold + 70mm TB consider as good?
also does the car feel with the new TB, is the response much better? would u expect more gain from it (powerwise)?
29-08-2008, 11:39 AM
Malenic1981

What should i expect on my EP3, I got gruppeM, Fujitsubo RM-01A and apexi VAFC2 ready to get installed as soon as car arrives
29-08-2008, 02:09 PM
45SET

136kw atw is decent power for those mods. What kind of cat back are you running.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malenic1981

What should i expect on my EP3, I got gruppeM, Fujitsubo RM-01A and apexi VAFC2 ready to get installed as soon as car arrives

to many veribles to comment. Every dyno is differant, every engine is differant etc etc. Find K20's running simular mods and compare to them. But for intake, catback and a VAFC on a JDM K20 you would expect around 125ish kw at a guess.

But at the end of the day a dyno should only be used as a tuning device.
29-08-2008, 06:01 PM
Malenic1981

[QUOTE][But at the end of the day a dyno should only be used as a tuning device./QUOTE]

that's right
29-08-2008, 06:39 PM
mikoZ

Quote:

Originally Posted by 45SET

136kw atw is decent power for those mods. What kind of cat back are you running.

to many veribles to comment. Every dyno is differant, every engine is differant etc etc. Find K20's running simular mods and compare to them. But for intake, catback and a VAFC on a JDM K20 you would expect around 125ish kw at a guess.

But at the end of the day a dyno should only be used as a tuning device.

2.5inch hi-tech i think, but not sure
the thing i pretty sure its not toda, bc, amuse, fujitsubo...

will i gain bit more if i using one of above brands?
29-08-2008, 06:39 PM
fatboyz39

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikoZ

2.5inch hi-tech i think, but not sure
the thing i pretty sure its not toda, bc, amuse, fujitsubo...

will i gain bit more if i using one of above brands?

Nope all noise.
29-08-2008, 07:15 PM
45SET

^^ what he said.

Only way your going to get more power out of changing exhuast is getting a 3' all the way ... but then you would have to get a new tune... but you would get some more power.

The system you have at the moment would very "perfect" for a street car.
29-08-2008, 08:00 PM
Chi

Mugen N1 or J's 70RR and you will be laughing.

But then they arent street legal and you're too weaksauce Mikoz lol.
29-08-2008, 09:31 PM
Tofu

Quote:

Originally Posted by 45SET

But for intake, catback and a VAFC on a JDM K20 you would expect around 125ish kw at a guess.

nah Robi, you saw how two K20Z1 got 123kw and 126kw from just intake and exhuast. :wave:

gaining 8-9kw from the intake manifold and throttle body sounds reasonable, but the $$$ vs gains doesn't sound all that favorable.
30-08-2008, 08:52 AM
Nepolian

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tofu

nah Robi, you saw how two K20Z1 got 123kw and 126kw from just intake and exhuast. :wave:

gaining 8-9kw from the intake manifold and throttle body sounds reasonable, but the $$$ vs gains doesn't sound all that favorable.

When it comes to $$, nothing in hp gain from a n/a is favourable :p
30-08-2008, 09:15 AM
Benson

k24 bottom end!
30-08-2008, 01:16 PM
xtercii

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chi

Mugen N1 or J's 70RR and you will be laughing.

But then they arent street legal and you're too weaksauce Mikoz lol.

where can you get Mugen N1, don't you need racing licence or some shit to get them as they are not available to the public?
30-08-2008, 01:21 PM
Chi

Quote:

Originally Posted by xtercii

where can you get Mugen N1, don't you need racing licence or some shit to get them as they are not available to the public?

Not if you have connections.

IF you really want one I can get one ;)
30-08-2008, 02:37 PM
2002 TeGgY

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benson

k24 bottom end!

or toda 2.2 strocker kit :thumbsup: more revs ftw
30-08-2008, 03:20 PM
Nepolian

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2002 TeGgY

or toda 2.2 strocker kit :thumbsup: more revs ftw

^^ So would love one! But for what its worth, You can build yourself a nice little race car! :D
30-08-2008, 03:21 PM
Chi

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2002 TeGgY

or toda 2.2 strocker kit :thumbsup: more revs ftw

So you're saying less displacement means the car can rev more?
30-08-2008, 05:56 PM
Nepolian

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2002 TeGgY

or toda 2.2 strocker kit :thumbsup: more revs ftw

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chi

So you're saying less displacement means the car can rev more?

I think what Tegy trying to say is that going K20/24 loses alot of the K20 rev properties/characteristics, where as the 2.2 can still rev out as it has a better bore x stroke ratio to the 2.4.

I know any motor can be built to rev but the Toda setup has been proven to work. You just have to pay $$.

Alternatively there heaps other options out there, just how you wanna do it!
30-08-2008, 06:25 PM
Chi

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nepolian

I know any motor can be built to rev but the Toda setup has been proven to work. You just have to pay $$.

Do you have details of this proven set up that works?

IF you have money I'd rather go for the Tracy Sports 2.4 litre stroker set up which actually has been video recorded with track times and proving it can match up with higher revving k20a cars in a lighter chasis.
30-08-2008, 06:47 PM
Nepolian

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chi

Do you have details of this proven set up that works?

IF you have money I'd rather go for the Tracy Sports 2.4 litre stroker set up which actually has been video recorded with track times and proving it can match up with higher revving k20a cars in a lighter chasis.

Chi,

Im not here to prove what is better than the other. Everyone has different views etc...etc....

There is a thousand way to skin a cat, so whether its a worked 2.0, 2.2 or 2.4 its up to the individual and application. I'm not here to get into a sh*tfight about what is better.

You and I both know that Toda Aust has built a few 2.2 strokers with good results. I'm sure any of the 2.4 combinations work, as proven buy a few people in the Honda circle.

End of the day if I had the money, I'd buy the new GTR and not try and work out how I will make the next kw from a Honda.
30-08-2008, 07:27 PM
Benson

Why go to all that trouble and built a 2.2l? a 2.4l is capable of reving to 9000rpm...

If your were talking cost efficiency, 2.4l is the way to go..
30-08-2008, 08:05 PM
2002 TeGgY

geez everyone is so dam sensitive on this site. I was just trying to say my opinion. On the k20/24 you would traditionally use the accord euro crank shaft which is known not to handle revs. While in the toda setup you would use an s2000 crank (i think) which is proven to handle the revs....
31-08-2008, 12:00 PM
45SET

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2002 TeGgY

geez everyone is so dam sensitive on this site.

was thinking the same thing...
31-08-2008, 02:50 PM
7ypeR

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2002 TeGgY

geez everyone is so dam sensitive on this site. I was just trying to say my opinion. On the k20/24 you would traditionally use the accord euro crank shaft which is known not to handle revs. While in the toda setup you would use an s2000 crank (i think) which is proven to handle the revs....

Me too

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