Lets Talk d-series

[beeza]

hehehe nice,any vids man? :)


ive just got mine running
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8KMfV7L92E"]

Sweet,I need audio!

Anymore vids of her going :D

[Gio]

I've priced one for a y1 at about $600 US which imo is REALLY cheap. See below


The kit contains:
-FJ R Spec Custom Length D16 I Beam Connecting Rods
-ARP 2000 3/8" Rod Bolts
-ARP Lube
-YCP Vitara pistons (75mm / 75.5mm / 76mm)
-Wrist pins and C clips
-Piston rings (Hastings or NPR)
-OEM Timing Belt
-Japanese Water Pump
-ACL Rod Bearings
-ACL Main Bearings
-ACL or King Thrust washers
-Full engine Gasket & Seals set--> Its all the gaskets and seals you will need for your engine from the oil pan and up to the head.Metal 3 layer Head gasket (approx .030 thickness)


Looks like you'd have to source the snail from elsewhere though

So will also need snail, pipes, radiator....what else?

[will13]

havnt looked that much into it. im not that cluey with turbo setups either

[hitoriko]

For my D i've spent 100 for genie headers... a VAFC2 is the next point of call after the extractors are fitted as the tune will be of help and if i go b-series later i can still use the VAFC2 as my piggy back but most of my cash is being thrown at suspension

[beeza]

Smart thinking!

Can't go wrong with those genie headers for $100,great score!

[TheSaint]

what do you use in place of a VAFC when your car isnt VTEC?

SAFC? or is there something else?

[A-man]

not yet man.

alot of it u can tune out urself. uve already got timing. and if u play with ur fuel pressure you can squeeze a little out of it whilst not spending alot. chipped ecus r cheap to for somethin like crome or neptune if u do it u may aswell do it properly. i dont see y a vafc wont work still u just dont have the vtec map.

i run my d16 with the little work it has off oem ecu no chip

[dougie_504]

a d16a8/zc makes exactly 96kw @ the flywheel dead stock brand new.
Around 55-60kw ATW. The d16y1 and d16y8 both make 96kw too. Similar kw at the wheels too.
Less since its so old now.


You're correct, my mistake. The Euro D16 DOHC makes 93.2kw.

As for 55-60kw ATW I'd have to think that either your dyno run is wrong or there's something stuffed with your engine that you just haven't noticed. I wouldn't expect a FF Honda to lose anymore than 30% of power from fly to wheels, even at 20 years of age.
I'm sure if we dig around we can find something a little more concrete...

[grifty]

anyone put their D16 n/a on a dyno yet? id be intrested in seeing power figures.

[saikou27]

most figures ive seen on dseries.org is around 70-75kw atw with i/h/e. and the american dynoes tend to read a bit higher than ours

[Gio]

beeza did ages ago

[grifty]

beeza did ages ago

do u have any clue where i can find it? or should i just wait for beeza to come online? :p

[dougie_504]

He posted it already on page 62

[will13]

well i was supposed to go to a dyno day today but i slept in lol

[dougie_504]

In March CRXAustralia is doing a dyno day, so we'll probably have some D16A8 results, with plenty of B's also :)

[EK1.6LCIV]

that would be a nice event, I might come for a look

[90LAN]

ryan you have a dyno sheet for your car why dont you post it up

for people to see what few mods on a dseries gets

[beeza]

I wanna dyno mine again after I put the cam in!

WOOT WOOT,that would be sweet :)

[EK1.6LCIV]

youre sticking to the bisi cam hey Brett :)?

I found a great diy for the zex one for anyone keen, good clean results on an older eg

[beeza]

Yes,I should get it next week,straight in with that one! then hit the 1/4 mile and track!!!!!!!

Link me to the DIY zex cam thread!

Souns interesting :)

[EK1.6LCIV]

http://images.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=http://image.importtuner.com/f/tech/8360415%2Bw200/0102_13%2BHonda_Civic%2BOverhead_Cam_View.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.importtuner.com/tech/0102it_engine_tuning_cam/index.html&usg=__oz82g8HhC-UX8pMGRIGfrZ6470k=&h=267&w=200&sz=15&hl=en&start=2&sig2=U-7ywdDAd6f4coEd7yo-wA&itbs=1&tbnid=U10t1O1G3bpPdM:&tbnh=113&tbnw=85&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dcivic%2Bzex%2Bcam%26hl%3Den%26safe%3D off%26tbs%3Disch:1&ei=2rx_S5yzE5Lq7APOnYXyBA

[beeza]

Thanks buddy!

Makes it look so simple! :)

[EK1.6LCIV]

tell me about it lol

seriously looking at that option for fun

[dougie_504]

How much for one of these ZEX camshafts? Looks interesting. 11 HP for a SOHC is amazing, I'd happily take that any day lol

[beeza]

tell me about it lol

seriously looking at that option for fun

Forsure!

And I would imagine U can sell it easy as if plans change :thumbsup:

It's taken 3 months to get mine...


How much for one of these ZEX camshafts? Looks interesting. 11 HP for a SOHC is amazing, I'd happily take that any day lol

Yeah bisi says 10-15% gain for the stage 1 cam,that's sweeeeet! :cool:

[JasonGilholme]

Yeah bisi says 10-15% gain for the stage 1 cam,that's sweeeeet! :cool:

that would be with tuning though. Couldn't imagine a 15% gain ATW without major tuning changes. especially NA.

[beeza]

Damn,oh wells,will still be FUN :)

[dougie_504]

But where can you get them? I tried their website but it says the parts aren't available?

[beeza]

AKMotorworks on here now distributes bisi's products.

Give Andy a email - sales@akmotorworks.com.au

[TheSaint]

yeah thats wer i got my cam gear from =D

[dougie_504]

Ah, I didn't realise this "ZEX" camshaft was Bisimoto's

I already emailed Andy weeks ago to discuss my $15,000 B20VTEC build, using all Bisimoto head internals :D booyah

[Frankie]

ay guys if i was to swap a d16y4 head for a y8 head would it make much difference in power

[dougie_504]

Y8 is a better head I believe, but I don't think you'd notice a big difference

[TheSaint]

Y8 and Z6 intake manifolds are better

[dougie_504]

^^^ and cheap

[beeza]

ay guys if i was to swap a d16y4 head for a y8 head would it make much difference in power

It's called a mini-me and U pick up a little bump in power + Vtec.Very popular in the US cause they knpw what they are doing lol

[EK1.6LCIV]

bored in the winter is the main reason lol ^^^

been reading up on changing over my oil pump to the larger one offered on the other d engines (getting closer to the 300xxx service, may as well whilst I'm there) anyone bothered in the past on the d16y8?

[beeza]

haha yeah true!

So I'm guessing the bigger oil pump will help to move the oil around the engine better and being an older engine,that's a good thing?

Have U seen this one:

http://www.d-series.org/forums/diy-forum/94973-diy-oil-pump-shimming-porting.html

Taken from the comments -

"Originally Posted by krychek57
Can you remind me why we do this? Is it better for flow?

n00b question FTW!

Answer:
Better flow and oil pressure, for the bearings and with turbo builds you loose about 10psi of oil pressure because of the turbo. (Its especially important to do this on Y8 oil pumps)."


Taken from the d-series archive:

http://www.d-series.org/forums/diy-forum/97899-post-your-diys-quick-referrence.html

[EK1.6LCIV]

on the turbo d's people over there buy oil pumps with a set psi in mind, were talking big power builds over 400hp though, read thro one guys thread on there for ages last week, my gosh soo much info

[beeza]

Yeah this is just or turbo purposes aye?

Sounds like the y8 oil pump is a known badie.

Have U got a link to that thread U talk of?

:)

[saikou27]

i think its the y series oil pimp in general thats regarded as bad. people port and shim thier oil pumps for turbo or high comp n/a

[beeza]

Excellent,I don't need to do it then :)

Thanks mate.

[EK1.6LCIV]

yea they fail over time, but most get over 150,000miles or about where I am in terms of kilometres before they leak thro the o-ring (which is what I think may be happening)

I can't link ya atm, but will when I get back, just look thro users rides section and such and such's 400hp build, great info

[beeza]

Cheers Ryan,will do!

Why do U think it's leaking through the o-ring? Is it visable somewhere from the outside or blowing blue smoke?

[cheapdouchebag]

talking about d-series hope im not hijacking this thread but here goes,.
my air filter is HELL dirty, i was wondering how would a bolt on pod filter will imrprove my car. im not totally interested in making this engine improve its performance as it has an auto gearbox --". i really need to replace the air filter but im wondering whether should i stay with the oem shape or go for the cone filter. are they easy to install? heard it makes ur car louder screaming during vtec.

but i had a look, oem airbox looks like it sucks air through a pipe weaved through and take in air from the far left. is this better for my car to stay oem shape or might as well get the air filter cause it looks like if i put on a pod filter it will stay closer to the head coming from the engine n hot air is not that good is it?. im getting an full conversion hopefully at the end of the year.

any thoughts on this>?

[EK1.6LCIV]

Cheers Ryan,will do!

Why do U think it's leaking through the o-ring? Is it visable somewhere from the outside or blowing blue smoke?

well there's a leak on the sump, could be from the crank seal, 0-ring seal, or just the sump gasket itself (highly unlikely lol. Or also be from the rear main seal (in which case I wait til I change the clutch and flywheel)

doesn't blow smoke, but is generally rich due to how it's set up

[beeza]

talking about d-series hope im not hijacking this thread but here goes,.
my air filter is HELL dirty, i was wondering how would a bolt on pod filter will imrprove my car. im not totally interested in making this engine improve its performance as it has an auto gearbox --". i really need to replace the air filter but im wondering whether should i stay with the oem shape or go for the cone filter. are they easy to install? heard it makes ur car louder screaming during vtec.

but i had a look, oem airbox looks like it sucks air through a pipe weaved through and take in air from the far left. is this better for my car to stay oem shape or might as well get the air filter cause it looks like if i put on a pod filter it will stay closer to the head coming from the engine n hot air is not that good is it?. im getting an full conversion hopefully at the end of the year.

any thoughts on this>?

Definately worth it man,$30 for a pod from autobarn.Rip all those plastic pipes outta there!! and get the pod on,then reset the ECU:

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=67113



well there's a leak on the sump, could be from the crank seal, 0-ring seal, or just the sump gasket itself (highly unlikely lol. Or also be from the rear main seal (in which case I wait til I change the clutch and flywheel)

doesn't blow smoke, but is generally rich due to how it's set up

Yeah,I got a tiny leak like that too but it's so small,not even worth worrying about,I mean the car blows no smoke and the compression is 175 accross all 4 cylinders.Not worth worrying about,but everytime I'm under the car there's a slight bit of oil there.

[EK1.6LCIV]

Yea I've been told by a few mobs, Honda included not to bother, but I don't like seeing oil there so I may as well fix it

sri intake with a box is definately the way to go :)

[beeza]

HAha,can't handle knowing it's there aye :)

hehe,I'm like that with EVERYTHING except the exterior of the car,so over it!! and that lil' bit of oil I see there haha

[EK1.6LCIV]

but having to replace the:
o-ring on the pump
crank seal
possibly cam seal
main big end seal

would consistute doing:
a timing belt change with new water pump, oil pump included
clutch and flywheel change to get to the big main seal

lol

bling bling (starts hearing the voices of a few telling me it's not worth it at 300,000ks)

[JasonGilholme]

talking about d-series hope im not hijacking this thread but here goes,.
my air filter is HELL dirty, i was wondering how would a bolt on pod filter will imrprove my car. im not totally interested in making this engine improve its performance as it has an auto gearbox --". i really need to replace the air filter but im wondering whether should i stay with the oem shape or go for the cone filter. are they easy to install? heard it makes ur car louder screaming during vtec.

but i had a look, oem airbox looks like it sucks air through a pipe weaved through and take in air from the far left. is this better for my car to stay oem shape or might as well get the air filter cause it looks like if i put on a pod filter it will stay closer to the head coming from the engine n hot air is not that good is it?. im getting an full conversion hopefully at the end of the year.

any thoughts on this>?

don't go an open pod in your bay. You just suck the hot air into your engine. Does wonders for lowering performance.

You're better off with an intake the puts the filter outside of the bay, or something like the setup from an ITR. You can even go with a K&N panel filter in your stock box. Will be much better then an open pod in the bay.

[grifty]

is it common for the D-series to leak oil from the timing belt side crank seal?

[TheSaint]

mine weeps from that side after a long drive ... only a couple of drops tho

[cheapdouchebag]

jeesus its hard to change oil in a d-series. the bolt is so damn tight on. i havent even got that bolt off yet at the bottom, or is it me doing it wrong?

[Gio]

Shouldnt be that hard lol dont thread it

[cheapdouchebag]

its pretty bad, either that or im undoing the wrong screw. thereso nly one big bolt at the bottom of the motor and i can get it out with any spanner ive got -.-

[Gio]

Yeah just the one bolt man

[EK1.6LCIV]

At the sump at the bottom, use an extension bar when all else fails :)

[sikisdr69]

will d16z6 Inlet Manifold bolt onto a d16y1 motor, reason is i cant find Quads for a d16y1 but there is heaps for d16z6

[bennjamin]

will d16z6 Inlet Manifold bolt onto a d16y1 motor, reason is i cant find Quads for a d16y1 but there is heaps for d16z6

all d series , BAR the D16a8/ZC have the same head stud pattern on inlet and outlet ( exhaust).

You MAY have to port alittle here or there to match the ports correctly tho. Easy to do , just get the gasket off the intended ITB's , and port your head to match the new gasket ( place it on and use dye or the gasket as a guide)

[will13]

I believe they are very similar, they just have different flow characteristics. should fit though - check on d-series.org first, if they dont know, no one will

[beeza]

don't go an open pod in your bay. You just suck the hot air into your engine. Does wonders for lowering performance.

You're better off with an intake the puts the filter outside of the bay, or something like the setup from an ITR. You can even go with a K&N panel filter in your stock box. Will be much better then an open pod in the bay.

OR like This. (http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=93744&highlight=breathing+fresh+air)


jeesus its hard to change oil in a d-series. the bolt is so damn tight on. i havent even got that bolt off yet at the bottom, or is it me doing it wrong?

U should be able to crack it.It's the transmission bolt I had probs with but not anymore.

I jack the car up,put a brick under there,then put the ratchet in position and lower the car.It cracks the seal,easy as! :thumbsup:

[Gio]

haha beeze i can see my post on the 1st page, maaan so long ago. Oi u added 4kg to ur car due to tubing ;p

[beeza]

haha lolzers!

Yeah time certainly FLY'S by!

So Ur on here a bit now? :)

[Gio]

tracking parts down man argh so much time...

[beeza]

Patience is a virtue :)

After the swaybar kit?

PM me!

[grifty]

does anyone get that sorta like death grinding sound from their a/c compressor when the a/c is on and the car is idling? apparently its a common problem i heard

[bennjamin]

probably the pulley bearing

[grifty]

is it common if it only happens during idle? the sound goes away after 1000 rpm

[Gio]

Its because the revs are on like 400 lol.

How low are they when it makes the noise?

[grifty]

approx 700

[Killa From Manila]

yea my ac pulley makes fked sounds at all rpm's but i just put up with it. motor is going soon neway

[beeza]

Is this the sound?

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=97120

If so,it's the timing belt tensioner bearing.The timing belt tension needs to be set.Here's Honda's solution:

1. Start the Engine and allow it to reach operating temperature ( Radiator Fans should come on twice )

2. Remove the upper timing belt cover

3. monitor the engine temperature. When the temp decreases to 58degC, rotate the crankshaft five or six turns counter clockwise.

4. Set No. 1 piston at TDC

5.When the engine temp decreaces to 55degC, loosen the timming belt adjusting bolt 180deg. Allow the tention of the timing belt to automaticlly reset the tentioner position.

6. Tighten the adjusting bolt.

7. After adjustment, retorque the crankshaft pulley bolt to 181 Nm

8. On compleating the procedure, start then engine and allow it to reach operating temperature. Confirm the noise has been eliminated. Should the noise still be exhibited the above procedure in its entirety is required to be repeated.

U can buy a digitor multimeter from jaycar for $30 that measures tempreture very accurately.Therefore U can do this yourself!

Note: U will need to remove the valve cover to get the upper timing belt cover off.I would remove the valve cover,take the upper timing belt cover off and replace the valve cover.After eliminating the noise,replace the upper timing belt cover

[grifty]

nah it doesnt sound like that its much worse, ill try and post up a vid later this week, but thanks for trying anyways :)

[Gio]

Good effort beez

[beeza]

No worries Griffy!

I thought it's best to put up the solution than to just leave it open,in case someone else has the problem,sometime.

Cheers Chris!

[Frankie]

It's called a mini-me and U pick up a little bump in power + Vtec.Very popular in the US cause they knpw what they are doing lol

How many kw would i benfit from this??? how much would it cost me roughly?? also what else would i have to change to the engine if i do a mini me

[TheSaint]

will d16z6 Inlet Manifold bolt onto a d16y1 motor, reason is i cant find Quads for a d16y1 but there is heaps for d16z6

D16z6 and D16y1 are the same intake manifold

its the highest flowing for stock SOHC D series you can get ... other than the D16y8 which is better for higher rev range because it has a larger resevoir ... where the z6/y1 has a smaller resevoir but larger, better flowing runners = better gains over the whole rev range

alot of guys in the states swap to the z6/y1 on other D16/D15's as a cheap upgrade

the stock throttle body is fine for small SOHC (unless u are going turbo) but u should see a nice gain from some port matching the TB to the IM and the headers to the head

also dont forget ur hondata intake manifold gasket = cheap and easy power

PS - how much are those quads? lol

[beeza]

How many kw would i benfit from this??? how much would it cost me roughly?? also what else would i have to change to the engine if i do a mini me

Hey Frankie :wave:

5-6 kw's + Vtec.

Maybe 6-800 for cost,but check out d-series.org for a list of parts U will need,then U can find out how much U are up for.

U do need to change the head to a Vtec head,so it's no small job.But if U know exactly what to do,U can have it done in 6 hours! and that's why the guys in the states do em',they know what to do and there's lots of people to help do it :thumbsup:

It's too expensive and not worth it if U get a shop to do it.

That's the difference.

[Frankie]

okay thanks man for the info i will look into it, wondering if anyone on here has done it and how much tis cost them

[beeza]

I think I remember maybe that someone had done it,that was a while ago but.

Like U can get the parts for say 6-800 but it's the labour cost on install that will kill ya!

Ur in Sydney,give bennjamin a PM and see if he cant help! :)

[TheSaint]

if u have a D15b7 u can get similar gains from a D16a6 camshaft without having to stuff around with head/ecu etc

[beeza]

if u have a D15b7 u can get similar gains from a D16a6 camshaft without having to stuff around with head/ecu etc

Great info Saint!! :thumbsup:

If I had that engine,I would do that mod forsure!

[Frankie]

i got d16y4

[beeza]

I know I know,like me.

What have U done so far Frankie?

[Limbo]

Beeza - do the B series conversion! you know you want to!

[Frankie]

same mods as you man I/H/E

[EK1.6LCIV]

don't listen to him Brett, lol jks jks

bought my:

rear main seal
sump gasket
hondabond
oil pump o-ring

and the usual 40k stuff:
fuel filter
denso plugs
wiper inserts

today, nearly ready to clean up the d a bit, waiting on a clutch and flywheel as I lol'd at the cost of one from the dealer, hell the fly on it's own was $400 and it had to come from the same warehouse as where I'm getting it from for less than $45... wish they'd pass on the ecconomy dollar value to the consumers, lol

[dougie_504]

Mini-me VTEC conversions are just BS, waste of time if you want power.

If you want fun + VTEC then sure go for it, but you may as well just get a D16Y1

[Gio]

Ryan when u call honda next can u get a quote on a facelifted clear plastic hood protector please lol im lazy

[EK1.6LCIV]

50 bux roughly, they're made down the road from here actually, them and the headlight covers and a few other bits are oz made

I use mine for road trips hey, easy to remove and install when you wash the car, can't talk up that piece enough

[beeza]

^^ Nice,got a pic of it on the car Ryan?

Will U be installing the seals yourself,anychance of a DIY? :)


Beeza - do the B series conversion! you know you want to!

Haha,that's just the thing,I don't want to! :D

Can't wait to get the cam!!


same mods as you man I/H/E

I got MSD system,FPR,a calibrated tps,cold air ducting and a High voltage grounding kit aswell :p

Well I would do the mini-me if U can do it/very little labour cost OR a stage 1 cam,drop it in and reset the ECU :thumbsup:

AKMotorworks Andy is looking into running Neptune on my y4,seeing if it's possible,that is the best thing U can do.Even on stock engines there are good gains and increased drivability to be had.I'm really hoping it will work on the y4.Neptune looks TOPS!


Ryan when u call honda next can u get a quote on a facelifted clear plastic hood protector please lol im lazy

Man,U are lazy! :thumbsup:

I thought Tim (ekcoupe) was the king of Lazy :p

[EK1.6LCIV]

nah not doing the seals myself, I value the worksmanship of local mechanics more and more now as I have very little time when I'm not busy after work

I'm slowly getting out of the car scene and moving on, after the resto it's done for years then I'll buy some more big ticket items non-car related

[beeza]

Yeah I prefer to take my car to Geoff to get stuff like that done too.

So You've done the car thing and movin' on hey buddy,best of Luck to ya!

I'm just enjoying driving my modified car now! (hopefully that hidden speed camera didn't get me last week!) :)

[EK1.6LCIV]

once my list is done I'm through

still a great daily and at the end of the day it's all I need really, gets me interstate, up and down the coast, out west, holds all of my surveying, drafting, contruction ppe gear for when I'm on site, love it.

Be a sad day if I ever do sell it

I'll still be on here for technical stuff, go t overy seldom meets, just don't plan on ever going nuts on it now.

[beeza]

YES!!

U have 'Let go' just like me.

HOW F@CKIN' GOOD DOES IT FEEL!!!?????????

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well done champion!

[EK1.6LCIV]

Brett tbch with ya it feels great :)

the more I would try and justify things on what I was doing the more I was thinking, geez what a waste of time and money...

resto is important to me as I like to keep a clean ship sort of speak

[beeza]

Excellent.

After the weight was lifted,I looked at how I was,my thoughts/actions etc and was and bit angry at how I let it control me so much.

No more.

Man,now a whole new world has presented itself.

Love my car and just enjoy driving it now,not chasing any racer boy dreams NO MORE.

[EK1.6LCIV]

I'm in that boat

sorry I didn't pop by last weekend, bad weather, made it as far as Tamborine then stopped to make a tea and enjoy the view minus hang gliders (I carry hot water all the time on my drives lol)

[beeza]

Do U leave ya slippers and pipe at home? :p

Anyways,we gotta hook up soon brotha!

We got the Channon market cruise soon!

[EK1.6LCIV]

lol slippers and pipe, I miss how cheap the second used to be to enjoy

might hit that drive up, but were having to fix the other crap alot on my spare time (houses, import car (damn nissan lol), and other gear that sux to do lol)

def maybe

[beeza]

Nice nice.

So my plans are put the cam in and if Neptune is a go and I can get it at a good price,that too and that's it!

If not just the cam.

[will13]

AK quoted me about $1400 for a neptune rpt, is that what you're after beeza?

[beeza]

Yes Neptune!

It's the shiz niz :)

[beeza]

How my d bay sits atm! :)

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l287/beeza2/100_2386.jpg

[bennjamin]

worst thing is the gearbox attached. That is slowing you down the most....even considerable weight reduction too if you changed to manual !

[beeza]

Worse thing for who? :)

Nah,as U know I love my auto benny and I'm not out to be the fastest out there.

I stuffed my left ankle from the first track day I went on,I spent all day in the bride vios 3 bucket seat at an wrong angle,angled forward.

After 8 hours in the chair my left ankle swells after I use it a bit,so a manual is out of the question..

I do love my auto!

[will13]

thats one sick lookin engine bay for a d

[90LAN]

so are you going to do a comparison of your new cam for 1/4 times ?
would be nice to see if any difference it made brett

so others with a d series can see if its a worth while mod?

[EG5]

Nice purple strut tower bar

[beeza]

Thanks Will!!

Forsure LAN,that would be a good thing.I have been psyched to do that and now I got money (Thanks Will :) ) I'll get my butt up there and do it.

I'll go there wednesday,early,before the gates open and hopefully get 2-3 or more (fingers crossed) runs in before it gets busy.

Get some video footage too.It won't be this week but the next 2-3.

Cheers LAN,good call!!

[Alexx]

good stuff man, interested to see if the times can match the claims :thumbsup:

[beeza]

Nice purple strut tower bar

Thanks mate,I couldn't resist the colour when I saw it,only $3.50 too :p

[beeza]

good stuff man, interested to see if the times can match the claims :thumbsup:

Thanks Alex!

Do U mean about the cam yeah?

[Alexx]

sure do

[beeza]

Coolio.Yes,it will interesting.

I mean I'm getting it for fun,upgrading the cam sounds like a fun mod,make the car rev a bit more aggressively,so I'm not bothered about 'if it actually works',in terms of times,I mean even if the times were the same and the car was 'funner' to drive,I would be stoked!

[Sexc86]

Nice work mate^ have you got the cam in and running? looking forward to seeing some vids of it up and running.

[dougie_504]

Thanks mate,I couldn't resist the colour when I saw it,only $3.50 too :p


From where? lol I want one!

[Frankie]

ay brett whats ur current quater mile time

[bennjamin]

Any of u d series guys simply installed a nice high FD and LSD combo and lightweight flywheel ? I would be this the best money spent on an otherwise overlooked and tired engine.

[EK1.6LCIV]

haven't heard of anyone os using an uprated fd

lsd and a light flywheel will be next on mine when the clutch is due for an overhaul

[Gio]

picking up ek9 front lca's and ek9 front sway today

[TheSaint]

Worse thing for who? :)

Nah,as U know I love my auto benny and I'm not out to be the fastest out there.

I stuffed my left ankle from the first track day I went on,I spent all day in the bride vios 3 bucket seat at an wrong angle,angled forward.

After 8 hours in the chair my left ankle swells after I use it a bit,so a manual is out of the question..

I do love my auto!

i have had both of my ankles reconstructed (12 months in wheelchair) and i still drive manual - hate auto haha

see 1st page in the link in my sig for the x-rays lol

[beeza]

Yes!! I saw that Saint man,damn.I Love's me auto but :)

I bought the paint from dinkim di discounts lol it's like a crazy clarks.

My 1/4 time a couple of years ago when my car had issues was 19.1 lol,hoping to beat that! :)

I haven't got the cam yet lyle,but definately vids to come!! :)

Fk yeah,stoked to hear ya buildin' up the d Ryan! That radness to the maxxxx squared lol

[Frankie]

19 yeah your car would of had issues... the best ive done so far 16.083 all most late 15s, i will go again this winter when ozhonda books a lane

[TheSaint]

i scored a high 14 in my VTIR integra with apexi pod filter all else stock ... im a bit scared to try a run in my D15b7 EG lol

[Frankie]

what are u scared of ???lol lyod takes his car down

[EK1.6LCIV]

took mine down, went ok

[beeza]

Times ryan? :)

Hey keen to go again soon,on a wednesday night?

[EK1.6LCIV]

pb of 16.440 not knowing what I was doing, with a bad alignment, old tyres and full interior

expecting a lil better now, keen to go again whenever

[Frankie]

What mods have you got Ryan .also are u going prepaired this time with ur car fix curious to see wat u get my pb 16.086 d16y4

[beeza]

Damn,that's Awesome!

I don't think I'll get in the 16's being an auto...

Hopefully I wont be workin' wednesday night,we can go then maybe?! :)

I will upgrading to a 2 1/4" exhaust too.

The collector on the header is 2.32"
2 1/4" Stainless steel Hi flow cat $120
2 1/4" Hot dog/resonator $80
2 1/4" Mandrel bent piping $260

Instal $80.

Total = $540.

Then will put the stage 1 cam in and when Andy comes up here,get it tuned with greddy emanage.

That's it,final plans are in and will be done!!! :)

[beeza]

Keen to go to the drags wednesday night?

Everyone welcome!

[EK1.6LCIV]

heck yes new cam Brett :), take heaps of pics of you installing it :)

have to replace my bushings still, waiting for a tool to arrive, then I'll be there :)

prob won't go til after my road trip tho

[beeza]

I might get Geoff to install it,a safer option :)

If I feel up to it wednesday I'll go,just to get atime b4 the cam.Pretty damn boring by ya self but.

Where's ya road trip to etc WOOHOO ROAD TRIP FTW!!!

[EK1.6LCIV]

heading out for a week or so just driving southbound

here and there etc

[beeza]

A man after my own heart!!

That sounds like the best plan ever,legend man!!

Just U and the girl?

[Frankie]

Damn,that's Awesome!

I don't think I'll get in the 16's being an auto...

Hopefully I wont be workin' wednesday night,we can go then maybe?! :)

I will upgrading to a 2 1/4" exhaust too.

The collector on the header is 2.32"
2 1/4" Stainless steel Hi flow cat $120
2 1/4" Hot dog/resonator $80
2 1/4" Mandrel bent piping $260

Instal $80.

Total = $540.

Then will put the stage 1 cam in and when Andy comes up here,get it tuned with greddy emanage.

That's it,final plans are in and will be done!!! :)

you should be able to get into the mid 16s with those mods, i have stockies alloys on my 14s lol

i got the video of the car running at WSID http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4d29wP6wGk yuo can heard my car from the 1:09min was dragin a silvia he wasnt that far ahead of me
check it out

[beeza]

That's U racing the white car there after SHO's run?

[Frankie]

yeh i was after lloyd

[beeza]

Damn man,very impressed!!

When I get on a comp with audio,I'll watch again,v.nice!!

[Frankie]

thanks man yeh need to hear it, i love the sound of da brnout

[beeza]

Go thye y4!!!

:)

[Frankie]

RESPECT lol

[beeza]

Sh!t yes!

I mean that's an awesome time man!!

So close to 15's WOOT WOOT!!

[Frankie]

yeh i know i think i can do a bit better if i had a better clutch it isnt grippy at all also i needed a service when i went.

[beeza]

That's great news!

Calibrate the tps :)

Here's (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWjZJ22KCzo) 'Typhoontimmy' run in his y4!

[Gio]

Damn,that's Awesome!

I don't think I'll get in the 16's being an auto...

Hopefully I wont be workin' wednesday night,we can go then maybe?! :)

I will upgrading to a 2 1/4" exhaust too.

The collector on the header is 2.32"
2 1/4" Stainless steel Hi flow cat $120
2 1/4" Hot dog/resonator $80
2 1/4" Mandrel bent piping $260

Instal $80.

Total = $540.

Then will put the stage 1 cam in and when Andy comes up here,get it tuned with greddy emanage.

That's it,final plans are in and will be done!!! :)

Which andy beez?

Im trying to get onto brendan so he can install all my new parts.

ek9 front sway ek9 rear sway ek9 lca's asr reinforcement.

[EK1.6LCIV]

A man after my own heart!!

That sounds like the best plan ever,legend man!!

Just U and the girl?

the girl, her bro and myself, covering alot of ground this trip

[beeza]

Which andy beez?

Im trying to get onto brendan so he can install all my new parts.

ek9 front sway ek9 rear sway ek9 lca's asr reinforcement.

AK Andy :thumbsup:


the girl, her bro and myself, covering alot of ground this trip

Wicked!

Gonna take a sh!t load of pics for us? :)

Camping it or hotels? Tell me some details brotha,I love a good road trip or even the smell of one HAHA :honda:

[beeza]

O,good :)

[Frankie]

That's great news!

Calibrate the tps :)

Here's (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWjZJ22KCzo) 'Typhoontimmy' run in his y4!

what was his time

[saikou27]

im considering getting a stage 1 cam also beeza. how much power are you guessing it would make?

[beeza]

what was his time

I'm not sure,ask him in the comments section :thumbsup:


im considering getting a stage 1 cam also beeza. how much power are you guessing it would make?

10-15% but I'm gonna upgrade to 2.25" and tune with greddy :cool:

[Gio]

When? Soon?

[beeza]

Timmy just ordered the hi flow cat.Geoff has the resonator and piping.Gotta buy a emanage and organise Andy!

[saikou27]

ive just purchased an emanage but honestly i dont think ill go with a cam

[beeza]

It's just for fun,not for power,I mean the power increse will be a bonus but if it was power I was after I would have put the b18c in.

So just looking for a funner engine to play with.

I reckon I'll loose low end power with the new exhaust until it's tuned.I could be wrong but at least I'm prepared for that.The tuning will bring it back if it is lost.

[saikou27]

out of curiousity has anyone increased timing by rotating the dizzy? i did it last week and theres nicer torque down low i reckon

[Gio]

Changing the dizzy angle? Beez done it

[Frankie]

ive just purchased an emanage but honestly i dont think ill go with a cam

does the emange increase preformance or does it decrease the life of the engine

[saikou27]

does the emange increase preformance or does it decrease the life of the engine

i suppose that depends on the ability of the tuner

[kartinkent]

well i need everyones input over there . whichever would have the better turn out i guess ??
the more the merrier .
anybody who wants to see this meet happen feel free to add me on Bing so we can further organize this meet. because i don't wanna post a new thread when i don't really know where people would turn up to ....

[nvmee]

hey guys, I was wondering if anyone has a bang for buck set up for around 2.5-3k? the car will be a station car. it is a 99 ek gli sedan granny spec and am itching for a turbo setup after hearing a turbo wind up ( havent heard one in years)

is it possible for 3k? will i need to get a ecu tune? im not sure about the power output on these and wont be expecting anything big but will be happy with 100-120kw atw ( is that too much or a d series). should i go kit or custom build? etc

[beeza]

Changing the dizzy angle? Beez done it

Yeah,U can have a tinker with it,I'm running the MSD ignition system so it allows for 2 degree advancemant.


does the emange increase preformance or does it decrease the life of the engine

Increases performance,it rewrites a new Air/Fuel curve,completely overides the stock ECU's settings.A tuned car is more econonomical if U can keep ya foot of the gas ;)

Runs a lot smoother,I want a smooth delivery of power right accross the entire rev range.

[grifty]

anyone replaced their ICM here? if so how hard is it to remove to rotor screw?

[beeza]

Easy as,just get a big phillips head,honestly not hard.

[grifty]

Thanks for the info :thumbsup:


ill buy one next week and try to install it, if i cant ill just get them to change it at work :)

[beeza]

It's easy as to change it,it's just the dizzy plug + the 2 wires that connect to the ICM.Just put it back together how it came apart (easy).

Give the 4 contact points a clean too,use a screwdriver to chip the carbon off then a little sand,sand the edge of the rotor too.

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=119576

[grifty]

Thanks for the help Beeza :thumbsup:

no need to sand the rotor for me, it was replaced 15000kms ago with the coil, dizzy cap, leads and plugs (before i bought it :)) dunno why they didnt replace the ICM lol

[beeza]

Your welcome,still good to give it a sand to get the carbon off.

[beeza]

Anyone done a rear engine mount on a d-series before,benny?

[nvmee]

help?

[saikou27]

was considering a skunk2 IM. thoughts?

[beeza]

d16y4 right?

No,U cant,I bought a skunk2 IM and b16 TB and was gonna do it but learnt I couldn't.

This explains it best:


you cant make a 2 wire iacv work on a 3 wire ecu.
3 wire iacv works completely different to 2 wire unfortunately.

BTW automatic D16y8's have the iacv on the throttle body aswell :) not on the back of the manifold.

I wouldn't bother with a ebay 'custom manifold' either,more than likely it flows crap.

The best U can do is bore the stock TB out to 60mm,from 56mm and port match the IM + bored out,but in saying that,will it work? Unless it's tested on a flow bench,U wont know.

U can get the TB bored out to 60mm for $195,U can port match the IM yourself with a dremel easily because it does not need to be perfect just larger than 60mm,but would U get gains from it???

Nothing is impossible,I mean Dyno Dave got ricer's d16y4 running on Hondata!!!!

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=61690

Anything is possible.

Just need the help.

Greddy e-manage will be a hell of a lot simplier though.

Great gains can be had with an aftermarket IM and TB,sucks we cant use it.

[beeza]

Here's an example of a ebay d-series IM:

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l287/beeza2/img3045w.jpg

If U compare Honda's design to this,this is absolutely crap.Looks all BIG and SHINY though!!!

I cannot see air 'flowing' though this design and I feel it's a very poor design.U would be better off spending the $200 on boring out the y4 IM.

Yonas can get all the port work done.Bear in mind,there's port work and there's port work,so feel it out first if U go that route.

[saikou27]

ive decided against the manifold. dont like the reported gains versus the price of them.
ill just wait for my emange to arrive and go from there :)

[beeza]

+ a cam :)

There are great gains to be had with a bigger IM + TB.

[nvmee]

so no turbo kits are good for 2k?

[EK1.6LCIV]

I wouldn't say that, my bud OEK40 on bc and here has just that and it gets impressive numbers, everything was bought from china kits on ebay in his car

[beeza]

WOW,a K40! :)

[EK1.6LCIV]

lol nah no k40, biggest Ive seen is Tim's 2.15L but have heard of 2.6L kits

yea Sherwin's lil ek1 sedan with the ebay kit is bullet proof, built is years ago running over 10psi daily driven and raced every blue moon

[dougie_504]

If you're getting a $2g turbo kit from ebay it's like flipping a coin basically. It might be a decent turbo where you can just buy a decent dump pipe and stuff and just use what seems decent but you won't make good power with reliability as you would with a solid brand.

But that said, sometimes you get lucky and make some nice cheap power with cheap kits :)

[Frankie]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/D-Series-TURBO-KIT-D15-D16-CIVIC-INTEGRA-DEL-SOL-T3-T4_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem3efe2137a5QQitemZ270 551562149QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAcces sories

what u guys think of this

[saikou27]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/D-Series-TURBO-KIT-D15-D16-CIVIC-INTEGRA-DEL-SOL-T3-T4_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem3efe2137a5QQitemZ270 551562149QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAcces sories

what u guys think of this

wow that is an impressive package. quality is usually 50/50 though. could go either way.

honestly im considering going turbo but id personally buy a cheap 2nd hand quality turbo and couple it with cheap ebay parts such as a cast manifold ive seen for about 150 plus a cheap intercooler and piping package to keep costs down. at least that way the vital components will be good quality

[will13]

"FREE NEW LAMBO DOOR KIT WITH BUY IT NOW PRICE $899!!!!!"

i lol'd

looks like a decent price for the kit but unsure about quality

[dougie_504]

I'm no mechanic and all those pieces makes my head hurt lol

But I've seen that package on Ebay before and thought it looked good. You could always just replace the turbo or dump pipe

[VTECnique]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/D-Series-TURBO-KIT-D15-D16-CIVIC-INTEGRA-DEL-SOL-T3-T4_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem3efe2137a5QQitemZ270 551562149QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAcces sories

what u guys think of this

Those exh manifolds are prone to cracking around the welds, so your better off with a cast iron item. The kit has no dump pipe, so your going to have to get that fabricated.

I always look for the kits with dump pipes cause i plan to fit the kit myself. IMO for a stockblock setup ebay turbo kits are fine, the only trouble i hear about the turbo is if your running over 15psi, so stock block i wouldnt run anything passed 10psi.

[Frankie]

Those exh manifolds are prone to cracking around the welds, so your better off with a cast iron item. The kit has no dump pipe, so your going to have to get that fabricated.

I always look for the kits with dump pipes cause i plan to fit the kit myself. IMO for a stockblock setup ebay turbo kits are fine, the only trouble i hear about the turbo is if your running over 15psi, so stock block i wouldnt run anything passed 10psi.

just curious to see what popel thought i dont want do turbo on my car, next car i get will get turbo factory

[cyryl07]

hey whats up guys.i blew my gearbox not long ago and i was thinking of getting the breeze gearbox and slap it on my d16y1 head with the d16y4 block, i was just wondering if its gonna work?

[VTECnique]

yes itll work mate. Are you running a Y1 ecu? all D16 blocks are similar, so you can use the Y4 block with Y1 head, as long as your not using the Y4s ecu. gearbox will be fine itll bolt straight up....

[VTECnique]

just curious to see what people thought i dont want do turbo on my car, next car i get will get turbo factory

Well im planning to get one of those kits some time this year. Im not going for lots of power, as beeza said previously i just want something fun to drive, & stun some unexpecting ppl. Not alot of turbo civics here where i live either so i guess its the unique factor aswell. Not like 'oh there goes another civic with a monster tacho & fart can'....

[Frankie]

yeh know what ya mean keep us posted on how it goes and which kit you get etc, you should start a build thread. have u planned roughly how much it going to cost ya

[VTECnique]

Kinda, im trying to be as budget as possible. Last night i came across a DIY piggyback for the Y4 ecu, so now instead of using the AFC hack i can tune it properly myself.

Turbo kit shipped from USA ~$1000aud
CA18DET injectors (370cc) ~$100aud
Piggyback ~$500aud

I may even get a walbro intank pump. For now anyway i will leave the exhaust how it is, its a 2.25" now anyway. 3" exhaust later on, press-bent so its much better on the wallet.....

I've just got other crap to do first like the gearbox, new clutch & lightweight flywheel, new ignition leads, one of those ground power kits & i may be able to sneek the piggyback in so its outta the 'to do' list....

[Frankie]

Kinda, im trying to be as budget as possible. Last night i came across a DIY piggyback for the Y4 ecu, so now instead of using the AFC hack i can tune it properly myself.

Turbo kit shipped from USA ~$1000aud
CA18DET injectors (370cc) ~$100aud
Piggyback ~$500aud

I may even get a walbro intank pump. For now anyway i will leave the exhaust how it is, its a 2.25" now anyway. 3" exhaust later on, press-bent so its much better on the wallet.....

I've just got other crap to do first like the gearbox, new clutch & lightweight flywheel, new ignition leads, one of those ground power kits & i may be able to sneek the piggyback in so its outta the 'to do' list....

big list mate and plans start saving lol

[cyryl07]

yea man im running a d16y1 ecu. thanks for your help ay. i just to make sure because i dont want to waste my money on something that wont work. lol thanks again man

[Gio]

Kinda, im trying to be as budget as possible. Last night i came across a DIY piggyback for the Y4 ecu, so now instead of using the AFC hack i can tune it properly myself.

Turbo kit shipped from USA ~$1000aud
CA18DET injectors (370cc) ~$100aud
Piggyback ~$500aud

I may even get a walbro intank pump. For now anyway i will leave the exhaust how it is, its a 2.25" now anyway. 3" exhaust later on, press-bent so its much better on the wallet.....

I've just got other crap to do first like the gearbox, new clutch & lightweight flywheel, new ignition leads, one of those ground power kits & i may be able to sneek the piggyback in so its outta the 'to do' list....

What kit? Thats way to cheap

[grifty]

im guessing one of those ebay kits?

[VTECnique]

im guessing one of those ebay kits?
.....

[Val]

just read the whole thread. Been slowly getting back into the honda scene, seen a fair few ED build threads with d16's. I've got an ED3 with a d16y1 at home. It was running but was smashed. I can't get my money back on it, so i've recently bought an ED6 off a forum member. Body's alright, got a few dents, but no rust except for under the guards.

Plan now is to pull out the d16 from the ED3 and put it into the ED6, convert to manual & EFI.
Why bother? Because i remember running my car ages ago and it was fun to drive, very rev happy. With the car smashed it left a void that i needed to fulfill. Plus i wanted to learn more about some hands on work, i know a bit of theory. My mechanical skills so far include and oil and filter change haha.

So far i've disconnected most of the parts from the engine bay, harness, hoses etc, took the radiator out. If all is well the old auto box and d15b will be out this weekend.

[Sexc86]

i find it funny how STILL any ebay turbo kit fall to come with any sort of engine management. Surely if they wanted to make something more attractive they would include an EMS before lambo doors or oil coolers

[nvmee]

so dont get an ebay kit?

[Sexc86]

Honestly any no name brand kit you usually get on ebay is mass produced low quality shit that will only cause you problems in the future. Spend the money on something that has a prooven background and you will be much happier in the longrun

[dougie_504]

There are certain ways to tell the quality of a non-branded turbo. Auto Salon did a feature on this in January I think.

Generally the idea is that any money you save buying a cheap turbo only increases the risk of problems later.

[cyryl07]

hey guys just a quick question. i want to replace my gearbox from a D16 to D15 for a shorter ratio, but the problem is that i dont want to spend too much because my clutch is cable. Do you guys know a specific D15 gearbox that is cabled so that i don't need to convert it to hydraulic.

[Val]

aren't most D15 gearboxes cable?

[markismaximus]

hey guys just a quick question. i want to replace my gearbox from a D16 to D15 for a shorter ratio, but the problem is that i dont want to spend too much because my clutch is cable. Do you guys know a specific D15 gearbox that is cabled so that i don't need to convert it to hydraulic.

what car do you have? might help.


aren't most D15 gearboxes cable?

I think all ED D15 boxes are cable, so probably everything pre 1991. Then when the EG was manufactured they were all hydraulic, but still D15 motors

[cyryl07]

i have a ED but its converted to d16 engine. lately ive been doing some research about final drives. i found that an integra ZXi ZC motor has a 4.4 FD, but my concern is that im not even sure if this car is actually available in australia

[beeza]

Something to do.

Grab a spare head for $50 and port it with a $30 dremal from bunnings:

http://www.d-series.org/forums/engine-building/104314-post-up-your-diy-ported-head.html

The one on the bottom of page 5 is what ya wanna do.Ya dont wanna change the shape.U just want to open up the intake and exhaust ports a bit,4 on each side,take off the carbon and a little bit of metal,just a bit to simply open it up a bit,not to change the shape and disrupt the flow.

Mill a bit off the head aswell to bump up the compression a bit,$80-100.

Replace the head gasket,valve seals and uprgrade to a bisimoto cam,then swap it all in.

While your swapping the head in U can use the dremel to port out the Intake manifold ports a bit and do the same with the headers,wont take long.

Also bore the TB out yourself best ya can with a file,I did yesterday,will post pics soon.It's still 56mm but flows better.

All this will cost $700.

This is a GREAT cheap way to gain power,to port out the head as described above without the fear of mucking anything up.

The downside to doing all this is that your fuel bill will go up 20%

In the states guys are going from 44-46mpg to 36-38mpg.More air = more fuel.It takes fuel to make more power.

http://theoldone.com/

[ekcoupe]

here you go beez you can add info:D

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss66/timsk8123/13042010009.jpg
http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss66/timsk8123/13042010008.jpg
http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss66/timsk8123/13042010007.jpg

[beeza]

Awesome,thanks Timmy!

As U can see I bored the TB out,it only took 3 hours to do.I used a small round file,a good one,not a cheap one.

I think the material is aliminum on the TB,it came off quite easy.Anyway,I'm very happy with how it turned out.Also I filed the butterfly plate to a point and made sure it open 100%,not 97 or 98%.

I will do mine soon and get it in then comment on the difference.

It's best to leave it all scratched up like that instead of polishing it cause it helps with the atomization of the air.Atomizing the air,splits the atoms in the air allowing more air into the combustion chambers.And more air = more power!

[dougie_504]

Thanks for the tips beeza and ekcoupe.

Something for me to think about. Personally I'd be worried about doing a DIY port on my B16A but with my D-series I'd happily have a shot/practice. TB work looks even easier.


rep for you both

[beeza]

Thatnks Dougie! Thanks mate!

That's the GREAT thing about our d's aye,it's nothing to get in and have a go ya self at everything cause it wont cost ya an arm and a leg!!

I was suprised how easy the TB was,U can 'feel' it out at the end and U just know where to file to get it tappered properly,so suprisingly very easy,could have done it earlier..

:)

[dougie_504]

Where can I buy a dremel and carbide set? And these sanding drum things?

[beeza]

Bunnings should sell them,I'm gonna buy one too.

[Killa From Manila]

It's best to leave it all scratched up like that instead of polishing it cause it helps with the atomization of the air.Atomizing the air,splits the atoms in the air allowing more air into the combustion chambers.And more air = more power!

lol wtf? im no expert but im pretty sure its to keep the fuel as a fine mist when its injected, helping it burn more efficently

[beeza]

But this is the TB..so just talking about the air.

[beeza]

I rang bunnings,the dremels start at $100 and the bits are $8 up.

[Killa From Manila]

ohh right. splitting atoms huh, pretty cool

[beeza]

To create sub atomic atoms and propel my d-series into the next universe!!

[beeza]

For Killa!

Atomization:

1. To reduce to or separate into atoms.
2. To reduce to tiny particles or a fine spray.
3. To break into small fragments.

Understand? Split up the atoms! :)

[saikou27]

i think at the tb stage id be wanting a polished surface so i can get more air smoothly flowing through the intake manifold. ive never seen anybody run with a tb like that

[beeza]

Hmmmmm

[beeza]

Yes polished is best I have learnt! Just like ITB's are polished!

The atomization comes in with the fuel,so at the end of the IM runner ports,where the injectors squirt fuel into the runners,that's where ya wanna scuff up with some 120 grit to help atomize the fuel.

[Alexx]

that looks ghetto as hell hah

[beeza]

Ahahaha Alex! That's the stuff then LOL

Nah,Tim's gotta polish it up yet! :)

I filed down the bit in the middle too but I'll start a thread about it in a couple of weeks after I've done mine :)

[Killa From Manila]

that looks ghetto as hell hah

its to help split the atom!

[Alexx]

These guys in labs using the giant atom collidors should be using D series throttle bodies instead! So much cheaper!



lol just playing beez, good to see you having fun. But do you seriously think that is going to have any effect except for ruining your TB?

[beeza]

its to help split the atom!

Split up the atoms :)


lol just playing beez, good to see you having fun. But do you seriously think that is going to have any effect except for ruining your TB?

hahaha :)

Yes,a lot less restriction for the air,Tim's gonna post pics of the finished product soon.

[ekcoupe]

more pics it is sanded/polished now looking much better
http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss66/timsk8123/18042010014.jpg
http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss66/timsk8123/18042010016.jpg

filed the butterfly plate an filed the screws to get more air flow
http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss66/timsk8123/18042010019.jpg

beez you can add more info if ya want

UPDATED:
http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss66/timsk8123/18042010024.jpg

[beeza]

Awesome Timmy!

Looks tops.Can we get one more photo,looking straight down,so we can see the thickness of the butterfly plate and the holding bracket,say 30cm away,then we can see the whole deal :)

I would like to get those screws flatter,but will just leave them as we took a lot off the rest!

A 60mm TB is too much for a stockish d but I feel this boring out will free up some airflow and will hopefully work aye!

We are putting Tim's y4 IM and TB on his y7 tomozza!!

:)

[ekcoupe]

no worries will take em soon havin dinner

it's been updated^^

[beeza]

Wicked! Yeah open it up from the side so we can see right in/through there :)

[beeza]

Pic was added above.The centre part is far far thinner,therefore allowing more air in but not too much,like a 60mm TB or anything,just a nice lil' increase :)

What do U think Alex,will it flow better than the stock one?

[beeza]

When I do mine,I'll get a pic of the stock one and it together.

[beeza]

GO THE d WOOHOO!!

[dougie_504]

lol love your enthusiasm bro

[will13]

hey beeza, want any D series stuff? I'm removing mine in the next month or 2 and will have a fair bit of stuff to get rid of nice n cheap :)

[beeza]

Thanks Will,PM'ed! :)

[beeza]

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?132174-Modifying-the-stock-Throttle-body-for-more-air-flow

Get busy d-lovers! :)

[newpaddy3]

i know some of you may have seen these vids before but i just want to post them all here

they are of bisi's (from bisimoto) 700whp d series sohc civic wagon

this starts to get really impressive at 1:50, watch that turbo manifold glow! and listern to that blow off valve!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIhA7_c_Yx0&feature=fvw


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGTWpP874yU


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAl180zN3Z0

[will13]

that car is legen - wait for it - DARYYYY

shame we all cant have 700hp D's

[EK1.6LCIV]

anyone gone all out in the clutch dept yet?

was going to drop in:

ac clutch stage 4 and flywheel w/ assorted bearings

or

exedy sports organic stage 1 with their brand of flywheel and bearings

just need something in it to get it to work for the time being whilst I build something else in my spare time and do the odd track shit without smoking to death lol

[will13]

im up for a new clutch very soon, not sure what i'll get though..

[beeza]

Love dem vids.

Got some stage 1 bisi cam photo's up:

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?59606-The-Batmobile/page49

[cheapdouchebag]

cbf b-series now im broke as a joke n no way am i gunna be able to save up for a meaty b series setup.
been saving since i got my license and ive gotten no where lol

i am really interested in D-series now. hehe since i got ahold of a jdm eg8 d15b 3-stage vtec motor.
hopefully i can do either of one
- manual conversion, recond. engine
Or
- buy a eh vti sedan manual and soup it up.

not sureeeeeeee.

[2MPRS]

im go the vti sedan waste alot less money in the long wrong

[beeza]

cbf b-series now im broke as a joke n no way am i gunna be able to save up for a meaty b series setup.
been saving since i got my license and ive gotten no where lol

i am really interested in D-series now. hehe since i got ahold of a jdm eg8 d15b 3-stage vtec motor.
hopefully i can do either of one
- manual conversion, recond. engine
Or
- buy a eh vti sedan manual and soup it up.

not sureeeeeeee.

So many DIY's on here,get the d going strong mate,U can do it!!!

[EK1.6LCIV]

mmm dseries

will post up how much fun a clutch is to install soon lol

[cheapdouchebag]

im a bit relived now haha
gettin a 7k loan from racv. hopefully that works out. fingers crossed. in the end of the 5 year loan term my total repayment would be $9023.65 so i THINK that aint too bad. considering its only $135 a month. sell my piece of s@#t of an auto off and im left with at least only 4k debt left.

one lady is selling her ej8 vti coupe MANUAL *drools for 4.5k to meee. with rego untill march 2011 :D its green but nergh. very clean and healthy car (only done 143xxx kms) only clutch needs to be replaced.

save 800bucks of the 7k loan for third party insurance and half of my rego for next year.

ANDDDD thennn
i will be most likely left with 1k... to spend on little mods
hopefully replace my air intake with a CAI, AEMv2 i hope. ad some used hks coilovers for $500. and then a decent aftermarket exhaust that will keep me happy for a while.

im on a student budget - i earn about 890 a month (on paper that is, i earn a few hundred more C.o.h)
worked it out with the loan, each month out of the income i recieve ive decucted each months necessities i need to buy

$200 - petrol
$70 - ciggarettes
$60 - parkign tickets for school per month
$70 - phone bill per month

and i still hae a few hundred on hand to do w/e i want. not bad for a student

can i just say D-series although aint the best, is the best for value?!

u fellas will laugh but, when i drive my cousins maual k24 crv sport, it doesnt feel as fast as my d15b, acceleration ftl :thumbdwn:. made me realise theres more to building a zippy car than just a motor conversion.

so bye bye b-series dream, ima stick to reality and soup up a d16vtec haha