Lets Talk d-series

[mocchi]

Cheers Lan.

Yeah I will be getting it dynoed when I'm done with it all and hitting the strip!

I will be comparing it to the B16A2 EK4 as we never got the EG6 here in Aus (afaik)... Since we are talking about comparing AUDM motors ofcourse :)

Along with having fun with working on the D series, I just want to get better statistics then a B16 (keeping costs in mind, not performance parts).. If it was the latter, then ofcourse the B series has no limits to modification and will run a muck over the D series.

I just want to show people that you can get decent power out of D's aswell..Especially with carbs! With a small budget.

Since it would cost me 2K max for all B16 gear to convert into my EG, I will keep the benchmark at 1.5K for mods.

I won't go turbo with a carby motor, as much as you can, it's too much work needed imo. Keeping it all NA!

in for this! got a budget sheet or project timeline?

[Alexx]

Interested to see your results. Great to see someone doing it instead of just running their mouth. Even if it ends up slower than an ek4, at least you have the sound of open webers to keep you happy

[tiksie]

I will keep all results in my thread:
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?137425-My-EG-Twin-Carby-Build!

Currently got these coming from Italy:
http://i408.photobucket.com/albums/pp167/tiksie/PROJECT%20EG/IMG_03961.jpg
http://i408.photobucket.com/albums/pp167/tiksie/PROJECT%20EG/IMG_03951.jpg

[beeza]

That's so cool Tiksie!!!

[90LAN]

Cheers Lan.

Yeah I will be getting it dynoed when I'm done with it all and hitting the strip!

I will be comparing it to the B16A2 EK4 as we never got the EG6 here in Aus (afaik)... Since we are talking about comparing AUDM motors ofcourse :)

Along with having fun with working on the D series, I just want to get better statistics then a B16 (keeping costs in mind, not performance parts).. If it was the latter, then ofcourse the B series has no limits to modification and will run a muck over the D series.

I just want to show people that you can get decent power out of D's aswell..Especially with carbs! With a small budget.

Since it would cost me 2K max for all B16 gear to convert into my EG, I will keep the benchmark at 1.5K for mods.

I won't go turbo with a carby motor, as much as you can, it's too much work needed imo. Keeping it all NA!

props to you nice to see some one in this thread doing something
and not just talking about it
will keep a eye on it

[GSi_PSi]

1+ good work, aytac , going to sound pretty nice when done ay

[beeza]

I'm doing something LAN!! lol

:)

Timmy and I just watch 'The pursuit of Function',got the link from a thread on here,if anyone hasn't seen,gotta watch it!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaeHpKgocqc

[tiksie]

1+ good work, aytac , going to sound pretty nice when done ay

Throttle response and power gained from webbers is amazing in itself! The sound is also amazing, wonder how it would sound on a d-series!

I used to have a V8 before so I'm a little familiar with tuning carbs, so hopefully it's not too hard!

[beeza]

Awesome.PLEASE post Vids Tiks!!

[tiksie]

When I'm all done I will :)

[beeza]

Excellent.

[mocchi]

I'm doing something LAN!! lol

:)

Timmy and I just watch 'The pursuit of Function',got the link from a thread on here,if anyone hasn't seen,gotta watch it!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaeHpKgocqc

seems like they have very friendly attitude.

[beeza]

haha mocchi,I love the honesty in it.

[dougie_504]

Nice vid - it's really nice when you hear people describing your life in the car scene so well like they really understand.

I especially enjoyed when they were talking about the feeling of having a project car, that is how it becomes your life and you put all your money and time into it and everybody around you knows that it's your priority :)

[beeza]

I loved when he said he laughed when he found his car had been stolen,I got that! And he was like 'That car didn't make me,I made that car!' and got over it.But the story didn't end there,I won't blow it for other's but a definate watch aye,great story,the pioneers of the now established honda moding scene.I might watch it again hehehe

[beeza]

Found an old thread -

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?79773-One-of-the-Highest-HP-boosted-single-cam

[Sexc86]

ahah yeh thats a pretty awsome build!

[nvmee]

with theD series gear box, are the bearings a common problem? how long can u drive it until it becomes super loud

[will13]

I just replaced mine - 190,000km before I started hearing the input shaft bearing become noisy. I drove 10,000km's before I replaced it. Spigot bearing was also on the way out but not as bad

ISB is supposed to be a pretty common one to become a problem

[nvmee]

ahh LOL , my car is 300,000 ( hwy driving) and i just started hearing some whiny noises. not enough to hear when driving with radio at any volume but when its dead quiet it gets annoying. at 10,000kms was the noise bad?

how much was the bearings btw? how much was labour?

[dougie_504]

My EF8 has 99,500 KMs on it and it's been rattling the whole time I had it (since 96,000).

[tiksie]

DOHC D series carby goodness :)

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e140/jlicrx/100_0846-2.jpg

Same setup that I'm going for, the only difference being that those are 45DCOE webbers, I got 40DCOE.

[~Sp33~]

I'd tap that.

[nvmee]

Has anyone tried E10 yet?

[~Sp33~]

I've run it before (by accident). Couldn't tell the difference between that and V power.

[pat88c]

DOHC D series carby goodness :)

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e140/jlicrx/100_0846-2.jpg

Same setup that I'm going for, the only difference being that those are 45DCOE webbers, I got 40DCOE.

A DOHC d16a8 Zc looks Mean :D
i like it but i would go from efi to Dual carbs

tiksie look forward to your D16b with webber's goes once it going
You heading to Sydney ozhonda meet next wed night?

[tiksie]

D15B* :p

Nah not going to the meet, I don't have a car worthy to showcase haha.

By the way, that motor is a D16A9 :p

[bennjamin]

By the way, that motor is a D16A9 :p

what makes it a d16a9 ? Only difference is it came without a cat ! Also it is OBD1 ( same as local d16a8 in the Si )

[tiksie]

The engine number makes it a D16A9 ben lol.

[bennjamin]

The engine number makes it a D16A9 ben lol.

Sorry I can't see it from that angle obviously on that picture lol.
Still a d series :p

[tiksie]

It's from the states, was going off what one of the members of d-series said xD

What's the differences with D series bottom ends ?

D15 bottom
D16 bottom
D13 bottom

I impulse bought a ED hatch lol, thinking of parting the whole thing and sending the shell to the scrap yard and working on the motor.

[~Sp33~]

There's quite a lot of variation between bottom ends, it's kinda like saying, what's the difference between all D series. Narrow it down a bit and it'll be easier to answer.

[mugen_ctr]

wasnt the D15b the only d-series to have come with a factory lsd in the tranny? If so would this mean that the gearbox/lsd could bolt up to our d16 engine/gearbox or are the bolt pattern completely different on the blocks, input shafts and gear box internals ? always wondered that

[~Sp33~]

wasnt the D15b the only d-series to have come with a factory lsd in the tranny?


No. ...

[will13]

No D series came with LSD...

[newpaddy3]

Why would they even need LSD??

[mugen_ctr]

D15b did in fact come with one, guess many didnt know of that, i dont know why any d-series would need one, lol, but its a plus
Transmission: S20 hydro LSD

[tiksie]

As mugen_ctr said, the D15B came with LSD.....

Shows how much the haters know lol.

[mugen_ctr]

hahahaha, its just a unknown fact that most dont know, even honda wreckers dont know that :D

[tiksie]

Most Honda wreckers that I call for parts don't even know VIN groups..

You say EG3, theyre like whats that ? Which year model ? Old shape or new shape ?

Hopeless sometimes..

[pat88c]

i know some EF7 D16 ZC came with LSD

A LSD in a d series is a rare option, only way you know got lsd there no rod in the middle of the diff center when you look through the driveshaft axle holes (seals)

[mugen_ctr]

its a rare find, if u do, id say its pretty good find, a good over haul of the old one should be more than enough i rekon, only other options for D16 is the knock off OBX lsd, and than the more expensive quaife lsd, not much option for us unfortunatly

[tiksie]

After reading through other forums and opinions of people that have had the D series LSD, it's safe to say that they are crap and weak sos :p

[Sexc86]

The D15b Box is a weak 1 way clutch LSD. Rare to come by and not worth the coin you would have to pay. May as well buy a helical Mfactory Lsd (OBX are truely shit...) Get it rebuilt with some fresh bearings etc...

[90LAN]

i found one in brisbane they were asking for 400

so your saying a d series lsd box is weak

so a non lsd d series box must be real shit then ?

[mugen_ctr]

Weres the proof d15 gb is weak? I dont believe any lsd is weak till u thrown double or triple power/torque than its safe to say it cant handle that amount since its beyond whats it intended for, an more info on mfactory lsd for d series, sounds like a treat over expensive quaife

[newpaddy3]

Weres the proof d15 gb is weak? I dont believe any lsd is weak till u thrown double or triple power/torque than its safe to say it cant handle that amount since its beyond whats it intended for, an more info on mfactory lsd for d series, sounds like a treat over expensive quaife

I personally have no experience in regards to how much power a d series gearbox can take.

But it's all about the engineering, seriously man, why would Honda make an insanely tough gearbox
only to chuck it on the d series, waste of money, time, and effort.

[tiksie]

I was going by word of mouth from people that have experienced it over on D-series.

**** yeah my webbers came today!

Still waiting on my manifold from America.

Now to order some jets and a rebuild kit then time to chuck it on when the Manifold comes! :D

[~Sp33~]

hahahaha, its just a unknown fact that most dont know, even honda wreckers dont know that :D

You can't expect them to know every niche model on the global market, really.

There was several D's with LSD's produced, to expand on my previous answer.

[mugen_ctr]

not attacking anyone here, but iev yet to seen or heard that D-series gearbox crack, now maybe iev been hiding under a rock or so, lol, but from just general experience, and talk from others in the USA, its a good gear box, but like any gear box, will break eventually if punished, weather means of double power output or thrashed

Remember honda always over engineeners there cars, why would honda put double wishbone suspension in a basic civic cxi/gli? seems that single McPherson strut is more cost saving in terms of manufacturing and assembling, but honda still did it anyways

hahahaha, yea, a friend of mine was arguing over a wrecker that D15b did have a lsd, but yea true, cant expect everyone to know everything

[will13]

so this D series that came with LSD, was it aus delivered? or are we talking JDM D15

[mugen_ctr]

As far as im aware, the Jdm spec D15b only came with them, and few others have said other D-series came with it, so i guess other d-series did also come with lsd as a option

[mocchi]

so this D series that came with LSD, was it aus delivered? or are we talking JDM D15

jdm d15b, dont think any other d come with lsd.
http://www.ff-squad.com/technet/how-to/lsdcheck/lsd.dseries.htm

[~Sp33~]

jdm d15b, dont think any other d come with lsd.
http://www.ff-squad.com/technet/how-to/lsdcheck/lsd.dseries.htm

The DOHC ZC and the SOHC ZC (d16a8, d16a6) both came with optional LSD's. the EG VTI also came with a SOHC VTEC D15 that had an optional LSD, The only EK's with LSDs were the B series equipped models.

[mocchi]

The DOHC ZC and the SOHC ZC (d16a8, d16a6) both came with optional LSD's. the EG VTI also came with a SOHC VTEC D15 that had an optional LSD, The only EK's with LSDs were the B series equipped models.

so it was optional lsd in australia?

[mugen_ctr]

nope, it was prbs to expensive to be included as an option, australia had the crap end of the deal when it came to any real performance packages, or performance cars for that matter

The only Eks that had lsd was the real EK9, which is an import model, so that doesnt really count, so in a nut shell, no Australian delivered civic had lsd, up until fn2r, which is a real shame

[dougie_504]

I bet those LSD D-box's are somewhat coveted hey?

[~Sp33~]

so it was optional lsd in australia?

Not Australia unfortunately.



The only Eks that had lsd was the real EK9,

That's not true, but whatever.

[mugen_ctr]

Not Australia unfortunately.



That's not true, but whatever.


Feel free to correct me....



Not to sure bout em D lsd being converted, but id like to know as well for future references

[~Sp33~]

Feel free to correct me....

The EK4 also had a B series with optional LSD.




Not to sure bout em D lsd being converted, but id like to know as well for future references

He said 'coveted' not 'converted'.

[cheapdouchebag]

i was gunna spam my thoughts ona d-series in this thread
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?140113-Intake-SOHC-VTEC/page3

but decided to put it where it actually belongs

if i had some spare cash and wasnt keen on upgrading to alot faster and new car, id buy a d-series vtec and mod it up

even with my auto - its been so fun working and mantaining the engine
put a few mods in the car with parts given or lying around and taken them out. how i love the sohc vtec.
one pro of having a d-series is that you only have to buy one cam =] or even one cam gear
none of this twin cam stuff haha

[dougie_504]

Yeah man, the SOHC VTEC is enjoyable in its own right hence I mod mine as well as my B16A :)

[TheSaint]

just an update with my build
i have successfully bolted on USDM/JDM OEM parts for cheap upgrades to my D15b7
- D16a6 Cam
- D16z6 Intake Manifold
- S20 B000 JDM D15b Transmission (shorter gear ratios + final drive)

there are so many things u can do with the little D that are cheap that ppl here in australia dont explore

if anyone ever wants ANY info or wants to get some cheap parts from USA let me know and ill help you out =D

EDIT -
some extra info on the gearbox can be seen on page 69 of my build thread
any D series gearbox with a S20 sticker and B000 stamp will have nice gear ratio and final drive (JDM D15 + EG5)
the LSD models had LSD printed on them and you can see straight through where the drive shafts mount
its a 50/50 chance u will get a factory LSD box

with the S40 gearbox the only good ratio / final drive box was the D16y8 (vti coupe only) - but unless you are pulling the box directly from the car its hard to tell what they are
they are stamped S40 B000 - but the D16y5 in the vti sedan has the same stamps but has the crappier gear ratio / final drive - so be careful

the main problem here is that honda and wreckers consider them to all be the same - so they will recklessly pull out a gearbox and not label it and you will not be able to tell which is which
which, is a real pain in the ass - especially when the wreckers in WA want $900++ for them - BS prices

i grabbed my JDM D15b gearbox from honbits in perth for $750, it doesnt have LSD but it does have the right markings - S20 B000
this will be a great way for me to suck a little more power out of my little D15b7 on the cheap - my stock box is on the way out after 300 000km ++ anyway lol

[90LAN]

750 for a d series box with out lsd is not cheap imo

[newpaddy3]

You could buy a non-vtec b series for that amount of money.

Don't go hatin' facts are facts.

[will13]

I have the same setup in my eg5 (d15 box with d16y1), doesn't make a huge difference other than that its a little better on fuel because I now sit on 2700rpm at 100 in 5th, rather than 3000rpm with the d16

I would defo have the d15 box over the d16 box tho.

[90LAN]

for $750 for reference and labour to fit

was it worth the mod ?

[TheSaint]

no i didnt want to spend the money - my gearbox failed and it was the cheapest i could find =/

living in WA sux

[90LAN]

fair enough mate

should of just got a $50 gb from a d series vtec

now thats cheap

[mugen_ctr]

whats the power rating on these gear box before the any damage is done? i heard any where from 300 - 400 hp, or is this a over estimate

[TheSaint]

fair enough mate

should of just got a $50 gb from a d series vtec

now thats cheap

couldnt find one ... and all the ones i could find ($500++) had the shit gear ratios =/

[dougie_504]

$500 you can buy a whole damned engine lol

[90LAN]

whats the power rating on these gear box before the any damage is done? i heard any where from 300 - 400 hp, or is this a over estimate

is there many d series making this power on here ?

[TheSaint]

$500 you can buy a whole damned engine lol

i looked everywhere in WA - i couldnt find squat that wasnt gona cost me almost a b16

i even looked over east and in USA - but the postage was gona be killer

this really was the cheapest option - expensive wrecking parts is the reward i have for living in this corner of the world =(

[mugen_ctr]

is there many d series making this power on here ?

thats why im asking.... better to know than find out the hard way

[honda_zivic]

i quoted for a d16y1+gearbox+ecu 1700 all up. hahaha wat a fkn joke. almost had a heart attack when the wreckers said that.
mite as well buy a b16a or save up for h22. gz honda wreckers are ridiculous.

[TheSaint]

thats why im asking.... better to know than find out the hard way

maybe shoot bisi an email and find out what he uses on his 700whp beast lol

[Val]

whats the power rating on these gear box before the any damage is done? i heard any where from 300 - 400 hp, or is this a over estimate

gearboxes are usually rated on torque, not HP.

[beeza]

i quoted for a d16y1+gearbox+ecu 1700 all up. hahaha wat a fkn joke. almost had a heart attack when the wreckers said that.
mite as well buy a b16a or save up for h22. gz honda wreckers are ridiculous.

Unfortunately they sell em' for that price too.

Sucks to be unaware.

[will13]

i managed to get my d15 gearbox with an exedy oem replacement clutch (almost brand new) for $100

paid a mate to install, goes well. does better skids lol

[TheSaint]

D15b or D15b7?

[will13]

b7 (or whatever one the 1.5L carby has)

[TheSaint]

b7 is the fuel injected SOHC NON VTEC version, D15b is the JDM SOHC fuel injected VTEC version

the JDM D15b has the nicer gear ratios =D

just have a look at the sticker and stamp - if it says S20 B000 than its a winnah - if it says S20 A000 than its just a regular daily box

[will13]

not really bothered about it hey lol

[newpaddy3]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPgH7zUfs8w&feature=related

12.7 for 1/4 mile, not bad I guess.

[dougie_504]

That's a seriously awesome time for N/A not to mention SOHC.

[beeza]

GOD DAMN!

Listen to that thing!!!!!!

GO da SOHC :)

[Riced_Civic]

ok so i took the D out to a track day yesterday and boy did it surprised how resilient they are.
i pushed hard from the get go and it didnt fault one bit the whole day.
i was able to do about 6 to 7 flying laps in a row b4 the sessions ended and how signs of over heating on a 29*C day
i might take it to one more track day b4 i put the B20 in as im actually taking a liking to it now. :P

[beeza]

Yup,sounds like the good ol' d! lol

[mugen_ctr]

how hard is it to adjust the tappers? im finding its gettin ever noisy :(

[na-118]

depends what car is it mechanical or hyrdraulic lifters just put thicker oil in she;ll be right

[beeza]

^^ lol

It's easy as man.Once U find TDC on #1 cylinder (easy),U then simply turn the camgear 90 degrees at a time counter clockwise to do the other 3 cylinders in the order that ecu-man says in his DIY on here.

Read it,learn it,any questions PM me and we can talk about it.

Gotta learn,gotta try!!

Once U do,U will be off!

[newpaddy3]

Has anyone here turbo'd their D?

[myztery]

Are d series drive shafts the same, if not then what's compatible with a d16y8????

[myztery]

Has anyone here turbo'd their D?

Yep and it's alot of fun lol... Underestimated fun lol

[Riced_Civic]

Ive boosted my D and its so much fun.

[crazy.ivan]

Hey, I'm sorry in advance if this advice has already been posted some where and I missed it.

I am running a stock D16Y4 (so no vtec :( ) in my EK. I am at uni, but I have a job that's giving me a bit of cash. I wont be coming into a big amount of money for a few years, so for now an engine swap or another car are out of the question. Bearing this in mind, do you think the bang for my buck would be worth it for me to get a second hand turbo set-up for my D16? and how much would I be looking at?

[honda_zivic]

u guys, just curious does the turbo d pull u bak into ur seats like rexc/gtr (geforce)?

[dougie_504]

u guys, just curious does the turbo d pull u bak into ur seats like rexc/gtr (geforce)?


Kinda depends on the setup doesn't it? I see some SOHC D16's running 8-10 PSI and making around 100kw ATW so IMO that wouldn't necessarily throw you back in your seat but then I've also seen turbo D's making 200-245kw ATW which is another story. Depends on how it's done I guess :)

[honda_zivic]

yea what i thought was u need at least 300nm of torque to throw sum mad geforce. like 34 gtr's, sti, evo's they throw u back in the seat.
which is awsome imo.

[dougie_504]

Not really man. Torque is great, but there's no replacement for horsepower. If you have lots of HP you'll get thrown back...

[honda_zivic]

so u rekon 200-250 atw will do it?lol
thats what im aiming for with my turbo d16 new engine rebuild.

[dougie_504]

I suppose you're going forged internals on the block haha. Even on a budget build if your engine is rebuilt and you're running 8-10 PSI you should get some very decent power out of it :)

[honda_zivic]

yea of corz forged internals. not expecting miracles just something that hammers for daily drive.
and make me smile.hahaha

[myztery]

mione 167kw at the wheels, broke my first driveshaft but had the setup for 3yrs now...

setup will up for sale soon...P.M me if you interested

[beeza]

Always loved this quote:

http://www.theoldone.com/archive/too_on_sohc_cam_timing.htm

[rey2009]

heyy guys

just swapped my eg dual carby for a eg sedan vtec-e

i dont know why i did it but my carbs very getting stuffd so a great deal!

what do u guys think about vtec-e engine? d15z1 i think never herd of it

yes the vtec screams but very late like 5000+ and redline is 7500 whats the point?

do i need a vtec controller idc about efficiency as loong as its better then my dual carb lol

[2MPRS]

most vtecs kick in at about 5k rpm. Somone will correct me if im wrong but the vtec-e is a 3 stage vtec.

[Gio]

vtec-e is economical vtec. It's not for performance at all. Actually the opposite.

[Renaissance_x]

Is there any d series crate engines?

How much does it normally cost to rebuild a D?

[grifty]

is it possible to use a bosch FR7DPX plug in a D16Y4 instead of a FR7LPX?

[mugen_ctr]

Is there any d series crate engines?

How much does it normally cost to rebuild a D?

depends, if ur using stock oem parts, its not the parts that are expensive, its the labour that kills it, maybe 1-2k in labour, an more to machine the block, head etc etc
there are rebuild kits in the states for D16's, but again, labour to install em is out weighs the cost of the parts

If ur rebuilding to handle more boost, theres a few ways to go about it, an cheapest option, to use Vitara pistons.... so cheap in the states!!!!

[oocus]

hey guys,
when putting a vtec head y1 on a non-vtec block y4 is there a oil plug that has to be removed from the block?

[d15z1SUX]

d15z1... i could go on and on about how slow it is, i should know haha. d15z1 should redline at around 6k?

[will13]

7 or so

[~Sp33~]

If ur rebuilding to handle more boost, theres a few ways to go about it, an cheapest option, to use Vitara pistons.... so cheap in the states!!!!

Those vitara pistons lower the compression way too much.

[d15z1SUX]

7 or so

my d15z1 had a redline of 6k on the tacho lol vtec-e kicked in at 3k

[tiksie]

Those vitara pistons lower the compression way too much.

Isn't that the whole purpose of getting them for a boosted high comp Honda ?

[~Sp33~]

Nope.

[tiksie]

Then why is it bad ?

[mugen_ctr]

lower comp = more boost + fuel means more power... well the old ways LOL.... But with a lower comp, ur lower end torque/power might suffer from my understanding...

Alot of the newer cars have high comp low boost which is really good for a daily, good low end torque...

[13bt]

Its all about torque!!! Thats what puts you back in your seat... flat torque curves will provide good pulling power throughout the rev range :)

1.6L engines will not provide this on their own and will only come close with forced induction

There are a couple of vtec D - series motors on ebay at the moment just waiting for boost :)

[~Sp33~]

Then why is it bad ?

Unless you're planning to make huge amounts of boost, the vitara pistons lower the engines compression too much. The engine would be an unresponsive pig and low/medium rpm.

[gun911]

hi guys ive built a d16a8/zx twincam turbo motor.and im very happy with it as the punishment ive given it..and put 28 pounds of boost through it.and still holds there cheap and they make good power.i use the vitara piston rod kit from a supplier in the us,the bottom ends a very robust as they have a cradle for the mains and the stock cylinders have not split,i used a block brace an welded it in the machined the deck.the studs i found are from a vw gulf the use 11.5 mm studs not like the sohc that use 10mm,so i could clamp the head right down to about 90 pounds of talk helps to run big boost.made my own intake and exhaust manifolds.and runninga t3/t4 turbo that cost me 200bucks,38mm gate,ebay,microtec ecu the cars been on the road for about 7months now with no probs.but not with 28pis 18-20 for every day use thats my bit.just sorting out the box going to open it up and try an obx lsd if any one has there opinion on these items,cheers

[dougie_504]

^ Sounds awesome. What kind of power does it make on 18-20 PSI and 28 PSI? Somebody I know was making about 245kw on around 28-30 :D

[beeza]

Awesome mate,SICK!! :)

[~Sp33~]

the studs i found are from a vw gulf the use 11.5 mm studs not like the sohc that use 10mm,so i could clamp the head right down to about 90 pounds of talk helps to run big boost.

Were all the head studs equal length?

[mugen_ctr]

hi guys ive built a d16a8/zx twincam turbo motor.and im very happy with it as the punishment ive given it..and put 28 pounds of boost through it.and still holds there cheap and they make good power.i use the vitara piston rod kit from a supplier in the us,the bottom ends a very robust as they have a cradle for the mains and the stock cylinders have not split,i used a block brace an welded it in the machined the deck.the studs i found are from a vw gulf the use 11.5 mm studs not like the sohc that use 10mm,so i could clamp the head right down to about 90 pounds of talk helps to run big boost.made my own intake and exhaust manifolds.and runninga t3/t4 turbo that cost me 200bucks,38mm gate,ebay,microtec ecu the cars been on the road for about 7months now with no probs.but not with 28pis 18-20 for every day use thats my bit.just sorting out the box going to open it up and try an obx lsd if any one has there opinion on these items,cheers

Go with Mfactory LSD, its only 650 or so, better to pay bit extra, an many ppl go by it, obx not so much, might be cheaper but it breaks easier

[beeza]

d-series Turbo ftmfw!!!

:)
Dyno Vid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWPoL_NPLq0

Bottom line is before,top is after.I lost no high end and pick up all the to red line,so stoked!

It was 1 deg. retarded,now it's 7 deg. advanced and $220 :)

http://i774.photobucket.com/albums/yy25/beeza4/100_1516.jpg

[~Sp33~]

Sick, what race track is that beeza, don't think i've been to that one before.

[beeza]

A local one :)

Thanks mate!

[Renaissance_x]

I want to do a few p plate mods to my d16a8 so cops can't hassle me for b swap but don't know what to do.

[dougie_504]

Cold-air intake
4-2-1 header, high=flow cat converter, 2" mild-steel mendrel-bent cat-back and a resonator + rear muffler.
Heavy duty clutch + lightweight flywheel.

Cost you $2000-3000 and it'll be fun!


CRX?

[crazy.ivan]

Cold-air intake
4-2-1 header, high=flow cat converter, 2" mild-steel mendrel-bent cat-back and a resonator + rear muffler.
Heavy duty clutch + lightweight flywheel.

Cost you $2000-3000 and it'll be fun!

What he said ;)

[mugen_ctr]

I want to do a few p plate mods to my d16a8 so cops can't hassle me for b swap but don't know what to do.

as dougie already said, an set aside some good tires, suspension an sway bars an u b set, this will make the car so much more fun, than with some extra dough, get some really good seats, an i can guarantee u will have fun :D

[Renaissance_x]

Yeah CRX.

What causes the compression difference between aussie crx's and JDM? Is it pistons or something like block height?

[~Sp33~]

Yeah CRX.

What causes the compression difference between aussie crx's and JDM? Is it pistons or something like block height?

They have the same compression ratio?

[bennjamin]

They have the same compression ratio?

arent they the same motor through and thru ?

[Renaissance_x]

From what I have read the ZC is a JDM d16a8 with slightly higher compression.

[bennjamin]

From what I have read the ZC is a JDM d16a8 with slightly higher compression.

Same compression ratio of 9.5:1

[~Sp33~]

Same compression ratio of 9.5:1

:thumbsup:


arent they the same motor through and thru ?

Indeed.

[dougie_504]

Same engine internally, only minor differences with things like flywheel teeth/clutch etc. Both are good solid engines IMO. They were the base foundation for the creation of the B16A :)

[~Sp33~]

Same engine internally, only minor differences with things like flywheel teeth/clutch etc.

Those things are year dependent not because it's a ZC, same thing happened with the D

[dougie_504]

And this is why I always tell people to message you with their D-series questions :D

[ep3rsteve]

slightly related...anyone know if a EF8 b16 hi flow cat + exhaust system will fit/bolt onto a d16/zc EF7?

[seanizshort]

Ep3steve. The head won't bolt strait on. D series and B series have different manifold bolt thingys. Dosnt even fit. Sorry to bring bad news. :(

[trism]

but other than the manifold itself, ie from the cat back, yes it should fit.

[dougie_504]

But unless it's an aftermarket cat-back then don't bother. OEM one is small.

[ep3rsteve]

cheers guys... from the cat back is good enough. I've heard that headers from some integras are interchangeable?

[bennjamin]

cheers guys... from the cat back is good enough. I've heard that headers from some integras are interchangeable?

older integras with a D series (d16a)....yes.....but why bother ?

[ep3rsteve]

older integras with a D series (d16a)....yes.....but why bother ?

Wondering if they were different/better seeing as there are no/hardly any after market options available. But all this is making me realise how untuneable the d series is. Still happy with it though lol.

[bennjamin]

Wondering if they were different/better seeing as there are no/hardly any after market options available. But all this is making me realise how untuneable the d series is. Still happy with it though lol.

if it hasnt got it - get a HD clutch and lightweight flywheel , such as a TODA. This will open up the feel and revs on the engine and make it alot nicer to rev out around town. Best bang for buck mod on a D series.

[will13]

I disagree ben...a decent header for $120 would be the best bang for buck imo

[bennjamin]

I disagree ben...a decent header for $120 would be the best bang for buck imo

Which does nothing ! (especially on a D series)
A flywheel , does not increase HP. But it increases response and will make your car faster in all aspects. So , putting $300-400 into a light flywheel , is far better investment in a $120 header that does nothing. Id bet the same amount of money on anything else...will not produce the same results or "feel" or "smile factor" to the owner/driver.

[will13]

Actually, I put one of those N*power headers on my D16, and it made a HUGE difference, the car was more responsive right through the rev range, revved out much faster too.

i didnt have to flog it as hard to get up hills, it was an instant increase in torque - i dont doubt that a flywheel would do similar, but the header provided better value for money

[ep3rsteve]

I need a new clutch so I'll probably do the clutch flywheel combo...headers a while after that maybe..

On another note, was about to change the oil the other day, bought Honda oil + filter from the local Honda dealership, I asked if the filter would fit, the mechanic said one filter fits all hondas (I noted this was an imported d16) he said meh. Anyway, Got back home to change it and noticed the width of the filter installed is larger than the honda oem one, didn't want oil to go all over the place so im waiting to find out if it will fit. Anyone know?

[bennjamin]

yup generally speaking the honda oil filter/s sold in australia suit all honda models

[tiksie]

Have to agree with Ben.

I've put plenty of headers on plenty of D series motors.. I never learnt from my mistakes lol.

Most common oil filter for the D series motors is the Z79A

[Woodzy]

Anyone know where i could get a throttle body box for a d16y4?

[TheSaint]

Actually, I put one of those N*power headers on my D16, and it made a HUGE difference, the car was more responsive right through the rev range, revved out much faster too.

i didnt have to flog it as hard to get up hills, it was an instant increase in torque - i dont doubt that a flywheel would do similar, but the header provided better value for money

yeah i noticed a massive difference in midrange torque as well on my D15b7 - made daily driving so much easier

a flywheel will actually decrease torque in low/mid range but the car will rev and respond a hell of a lot quicker

[TheSaint]

Cold-air intake
4-2-1 header, high=flow cat converter, 2" mild-steel mendrel-bent cat-back and a resonator + rear muffler.
Heavy duty clutch + lightweight flywheel.

Cost you $2000-3000 and it'll be fun!

not even that if its a D-series lol

[ep3rsteve]

I'm so smrat.

Bought exedy 6896HD clutch for ZC ef7. Have now learnt that I need a 212mm clutch instead of 200mm (d16a8).

What clutch do I need for the ZC? I can refund this straight away or replace it for the right exedy clutch if they make it.

Should've asked here before I bought it derp.

[pat88c]

Most shops will happy to swap for the right clutch

Something else to look out for is splines on input shaft on your gear box if it a 20 or 21 went you pull it out

Pat

[Chriskoss]

Hi guys. Going to attempt oil and filter change on my civic.
At 122,000 kms.. Healthy strong engine thats been serviced frequently.. what oil should I be using. Is a thinner oil still ok to use like 5-10w - 40? Thinking of 10w-40 as supercheap has a sale on this type of castrol oil atm
If not, what brand and grade oil do you guys reccommended for my beloved low km D series EK
thanks

[mocchi]

Hi guys. Going to attempt oil and filter change on my civic.
At 122,000 kms.. Healthy strong engine thats been serviced frequently.. what oil should I be using. Is a thinner oil still ok to use like 5-10w - 40? Thinking of 10w-40 as supercheap has a sale on this type of castrol oil atm
If not, what brand and grade oil do you guys reccommended for my beloved low km D series EK
thanks

10-30 or 10-40 for your daily. dont think it matters if its royal purple shit or just your regular magnatec as long as your change oil & filter 5kkms.

[TheSaint]

i would just use normal old Honda FEO 10w30 - had my D15b7 on this from 150k - 300k and its been great the whole time

on another note check out my build thread for the tare down of a D16y1 that i scored cheap
its snapped a con-rod from the previous owner over-boosting but the head is in great condition

either going to mini-me the head onto my D15b7 or find a D16 block to put the head on

does the block have to be OBD1? or can i get any D16 block and put the D16y1 head on it?

[~Sp33~]

aren't the vast majority of d16's in aus OBD1

[newpaddy3]

I know with the non-vtec b series you can change the engine harness to suit either OBD 1 or 2, not sure if it applies with D series.

[mugen_ctr]

aren't the vast majority of d16's in aus OBD1


Id say most d16 are obd2 since i see more ek than eg

And with the clutch, it sucks bad! I ordered a clutch as well, from autobarn, the guys ordered a B16a2 one, than ordered the ZC one, at this point i had to do my own research to get the correct one..... sigh!

[TheSaint]

so does it matter if i use an OBD2 block with an OBD1 head? is it only the head that has all the harness connectors on it?
are any of the other D16 blocks bolt on with D16y1/D16z6 head?

i spose it doesnt really matter that much
if i use a D16y8 head gasket on my D15b7 block with D16y1 head the difference in compression should make up for the lost 97cc of displacement

[dougie_504]

Nah, black doesn't really matter I don't think. I've seen a lot of later model B20 blocks used with OBD1 B-series heads.

How much compression will you make up using a D16Y8 gasket? I do remember reading that D-series.org thread but can't remember.
Reckon it'd be worth considering if I ever had to replace the HG on my Y1?

[TheSaint]

just a heads up guys - you will probably see one of these for sale once or twice a year - and this is almost half price as well
probably one of the best bang for buck things u can do to the D-series

Jackson Racing Supercharger for D-series engine

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1988-1995-CIVIC-CRX-WAGON-JACKSON-RACING-SUPER-CHARGER-/230648711375?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item35b3bc08cf

[TheSaint]

Nah, black doesn't really matter I don't think. I've seen a lot of later model B20 blocks used with OBD1 B-series heads.

How much compression will you make up using a D16Y8 gasket? I do remember reading that D-series.org thread but can't remember.
Reckon it'd be worth considering if I ever had to replace the HG on my Y1?

yeah im probably not going to bother with the block - cant be assed pulling mine out of the car
i tore down the head + valvetrain properly yesterday and it all looks great =D
the block on the other hand is completely rooooted lol

btw - add me on facebook u noob!

[beeza]

Hi guys. Going to attempt oil and filter change on my civic.
At 122,000 kms.. Healthy strong engine thats been serviced frequently.. what oil should I be using. Is a thinner oil still ok to use like 5-10w - 40? Thinking of 10w-40 as supercheap has a sale on this type of castrol oil atm
If not, what brand and grade oil do you guys reccommended for my beloved low km D series EK
thanks

Yes,it'll be fine Chris!

Nulon 5W-40 + Liqiud moly's low friction oil treatment is the bomb combo!

(bit late reply..)

[~Sp33~]

just a heads up guys - you will probably see one of these for sale once or twice a year - and this is almost half price as well
probably one of the best bang for buck things u can do to the D-series

Jackson Racing Supercharger for D-series engine

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1988-1995-CIVIC-CRX-WAGON-JACKSON-RACING-SUPER-CHARGER-/230648711375?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item35b3bc08cf


Unfortunately:


"THERE IS NO SHIPPING IN NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM outside lower 48 US states, shipping is possible for Hawaii, Alaska and Puerto rico will be very expensive, so... be able to pay or i will item strike you and your account will be suspended, just letting you know,"

[mugen_ctr]

just a heads up guys - you will probably see one of these for sale once or twice a year - and this is almost half price as well
probably one of the best bang for buck things u can do to the D-series

Jackson Racing Supercharger for D-series engine

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1988-1995-CIVIC-CRX-WAGON-JACKSON-RACING-SUPER-CHARGER-/230648711375?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item35b3bc08cf

DO WANT! cheap!!!! but imagine the postage to aust, expensive!!!, ontop of that, a very long 1-3 months wait, unless u have the dough to air freight it here

[TheSaint]

considering that its more than half of what you would normally pay - i think paying postage for it wouldnt be so bad!

you could get one of the chaps on D-series.com to take delivery than ship it over =)

[90LAN]

Which does nothing ! (especially on a D series)
A flywheel , does not increase HP. But it increases response and will make your car faster in all aspects. So , putting $300-400 into a light flywheel , is far better investment in a $120 header that does nothing. Id bet the same amount of money on anything else...will not produce the same results or "feel" or "smile factor" to the owner/driver.

flywheel and clutch install is like 400-800 average price less if you know how to do it
so the fly wheel is not such a bang for your buck for the average person
for 1k you may as well get a ebay turbo ben

[beeza]

considering that its more than half of what you would normally pay - i think paying postage for it wouldnt be so bad!

you could get one of the chaps on D-series.com to take delivery than ship it over =)

Yeah forsure,U just gotta be committed cause it will need a rebuild,it also may need the coating that's on the inside re-done.Other bits and pieces,installed and tuned.

Wont be cheap but would be Mad.

[TheSaint]

can anyone suggest a cam profile for D16z6 / D16y1

that has a fairly aggressive vtec side but almost normal non-vtec side (maybe a little more torque)
that i can still use with stock valvetrain and maybe run vtec crossover at around 5-6k rpm range?

or am i asking too much?

[altong0840]

Hey guys
just wondering how much is a D16Y engine
mine is blowing smoke and wanna find a better condition one which I could put straight in

Im in Adelaide but wouldn't mind spending a little bit postage on getting one~

[TheSaint]

they normally go for around 1k

what engine do you have at the moment and which car is it?

[grifty]

lol 1k, thats a dreamers price, max i would pay is $500 no more. If they want you to pay more then they are ripping you off.

[TheSaint]

depends on which engine it is and how stingy the wrecker is
a D16y5 will usually go for around $900 with or without gearbox
a D16y8 is a bit rarer and will go for anywhere between $1200 and $1500
same goes for the D16y1 - they are usually around $900 - $1200
D15b VTEC will go for about $900 and have about the same power output as a D16y1

if you are looking at private sales expect to pay anywhere from $50 to $600

[NelsonLSY]

mine is a EG5 with D16Y1 I think
it seems there aren't cheaper option there.....

I have just found a B16A Del Sol shell with no gearbox for 500.....I ain't quite sure how much would that be if I put that in my civic

[NelsonLSY]

Private sale....yea that would be a cheaper idea but hopefully I dun have to wait for too long :(

[TheSaint]

let me know if u want to get rid of ur D16y1 =)

[NelsonLSY]

lol what do you want from me?! :D

I know somehow just get rid of the car might be a cheaper option to stop burning my oil but consider I have got suspension , intake and exhaust mods on it....
I am try to get a cheaper option to fix the engine...put another D16Y1 in, or rebuild it.....or get that 500 bucks whole setup B16A...

[TheSaint]

thats daaammn cheap for a B16a even without the gearbox

[NelsonLSY]

Yea, I know~but what I want to do is just to spend the cheapest price to fix the oil things~
just can't really imagine how the labour could be even putting a B16A in it sounds nice

[TheSaint]

if the engine is obd1 and the car already has a vtec engine than labor wont be very much at all

[NelsonLSY]

would that be OBD1? that's a Del Sol shell

[bob carrr]

is a d16y8 any fun?

[TheSaint]

pretty sure the Del Sol is OBD1 - what year is the shell?

what kind of question is that bob carrr??
any engine can be 'fun' inside or outside of a car lol

the D16y8 is pretty much the best D-series platform you can get
but in australia it only came in the EJ8 Coupe Vti

[bob carrr]

lol, idk.. i'm new to this whole vtec thing..

[mugen_ctr]

is a d16y8 any fun?

is it fun? ummm for a daily yes it is :)

add some boost, it will be even more fun :D

[bob carrr]

is it fun? ummm for a daily yes it is :)

add some boost, it will be even more fun :D

or should i jsut get a b18c to start with? : )

[Chriskoss]

Yes,it'll be fine Chris!

Nulon 5W-40 + Liqiud moly's low friction oil treatment is the bomb combo!

(bit late reply..)

Thanks mate! Can always count on you for sound advice!

[mugen_ctr]

or should i jsut get a b18c to start with? : )

each to their own :)

Ive seen to many b-swaps, might as well just start off with a b-swap car, makes more sense doesnt it? lol

Boosting a d-series is in a nut shell, different here in the land down under.... or better yet Supercharging em :D

[TheSaint]

D-series are fun because they are cheap and easy to build

but B-series are better all round because they have vtec on the exhaust cam as well as the intake - D-series only have it on the intake side
B-series have much better torque potential and tunability - but they are alot more costly and demanding on higher quality parts

[beeza]

Thanks mate! Can always count on you for sound advice!

Ah cheers mate.

Yeah liquid molys engine oil flush is worth doing for $15 too,great products liquid moly.

Try the upper cylinder head cleaner,U just put it in the fuel tank,cleans the upper engine real good :)

[TheSaint]

subaru upper engine spray is a great product as well - cleans out the intake manifold, throttlebody and gets into the ports + valves as well =)

[beeza]

Yeah definately cant hurt doing both.

'Super Engine conditioner' is the same as Suburu UEC.

[bob carrr]

I'm looking for a daily, should i be getting a vtir dc2 or ej8? same price but the dc2 has 200,000km+

[NelsonLSY]

pretty sure the Del Sol is OBD1 - what year is the shell?

what kind of question is that bob carrr??
any engine can be 'fun' inside or outside of a car lol

the D16y8 is pretty much the best D-series platform you can get
but in australia it only came in the EJ8 Coupe Vti

that's 1992 but as I could see it's a B16A2 and some paint off from the rocker cover....it might has been overheated before?

[NelsonLSY]

hey guys, is there any chance that a D17A engine from 2000 civic could be fitted into an EG straight?
I find them way cheaper than the D16Y1
thanks~

[mugen_ctr]

I'm looking for a daily, should i be getting a vtir dc2 or ej8? same price but the dc2 has 200,000km+

serious man? lol ej8 is a big down grade imo... even though i have one, BUT ive done bit of work to get were it is....

Were as a dc2, u already have all the basics down, good supportive seats, good engine, B18c2, more power/torque, jus so much more than a civic coupe!

BUT thats not to say the ej8 is a bad car, with a bit of work, its just as good as any other honda sports car ;)

[~Sp33~]

D-series are fun because they are cheap and easy to build

but B-series are better all round because they have vtec on the exhaust cam as well as the intake

Maybe that's because vtec d series have only one cam lol

[TheSaint]

I'm looking for a daily, should i be getting a vtir dc2 or ej8? same price but the dc2 has 200,000km+

its hard to say really - the Dc2 will be a better car all round - much better base to work with

200k kms isnt really a bad thing - mine had 230 on it when i started working on it and it basically felt brand new
depends on how it is kept/driven/serviced

the EJ8 could have lower kms - but not looked after

u need to inspect both and find out which is the better car

[TheSaint]

Maybe that's because vtec d series have only one cam lol

i meant the lobes lol - there is only vtec on the intake side - not the exhaust side

i wonder how hard it would be to have it on both sides ... the spark plug guides would get in the way =/

[Banana_hammock]

If you're looking at transplanting a dohc engine into what was originally sohc, there's obvious benefits but huge cost for new ecu, brakes and what not :S but good idea to have vtec options on both intake and exhaust

[oddyseeh]

good s

[Sexc86]

If you're looking at transplanting a dohc engine into what was originally sohc, there's obvious benefits but huge cost for new ecu, brakes and what not :S but good idea to have vtec options on both intake and exhaust

I think people have got the slight incorrect impression of SOHC Vtec. Its not simply that intake has vtec and exhaust does not... It is a Vtec engine, variable valve timing or valve overlap etc. Its just simply with the SOHC only the intake valves profile changes (the timing in which the valve opens and its duration etc) when vtec is engaged.. The DOHC both intake & exhaust have separate profiles for both on and off vtec.

Read more here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VTEC#SOHC_VTEC

[Sexc86]

i meant the lobes lol - there is only vtec on the intake side - not the exhaust side

i wonder how hard it would be to have it on both sides ... the spark plug guides would get in the way =/

Correct

[dougie_504]

I think people have got the slight incorrect impression of SOHC Vtec. Its not simply that intake has vtec and exhaust does not... It is a Vtec engine, variable valve timing or valve overlap etc. Its just simply with the SOHC only the intake valves profile changes (the timing in which the valve opens and its duration etc) when vtec is engaged.. The DOHC both intake & exhaust have separate profiles for both on and off vtec.

Read more here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VTEC#SOHC_VTEC


Pretty much exactly like what we were saying, only you said it differently. The SOHC VTEC doesn't effect the exhaust valves, so in what way does the SOHC VTEC effect the exhaust? It doesn't really. SOHC VTEC effects intake only.

You just have to assume that the standard exhaust flow of the SOHC D can cope with the increased flow during VTEC, which it surely can, but if you want to optimise your power output with a built head (cams, ported etc) then you'd have to worry about the standard exhaust flow and therefore oversized exhaust valves are probably an excellent idea, whereas many manufacturers believe this is not the case for the B-series.

[TheSaint]

im still on the fence with changing the valves in my head build

would i have to oversize both intake and exhaust or can i just oversize the exhaust side?

[Sexc86]

Pretty much exactly like what we were saying, only you said it differently. The SOHC VTEC doesn't effect the exhaust valves, so in what way does the SOHC VTEC effect the exhaust? It doesn't really. SOHC VTEC effects intake only.

You just have to assume that the standard exhaust flow of the SOHC D can cope with the increased flow during VTEC, which it surely can, but if you want to optimise your power output with a built head (cams, ported etc) then you'd have to worry about the standard exhaust flow and therefore oversized exhaust valves are probably an excellent idea, whereas many manufacturers believe this is not the case for the B-series.


i know mate but "Sohc vtec only has vtec on intake valves" is poorly worded and does not really make much sense to me. haha

[trism]

How is that poorly worded? It describes exactly how it works, nice and simply

[dougie_504]

im still on the fence with changing the valves in my head build

would i have to oversize both intake and exhaust or can i just oversize the exhaust side?


I've also been wondering this the last few weeks since we started talking about it in your build thread.

Why don't you email the guys at Endyn and ask?


I don't think it's worth it TBH unless you're running a decently aggressive cam profile, in which case I'd do both. But funding isn't an issue for me, so if you're trying to stick to a budget (and an OEM cam of some sort) then I'd just use regular valves.

[TheSaint]

How is that poorly worded? It describes exactly how it works, nice and simply

i agree ... sexc86 ur saying pretty much the same thing as us just in a different way - stop being pedantic

[TheSaint]

I've also been wondering this the last few weeks since we started talking about it in your build thread.

Why don't you email the guys at Endyn and ask?


I don't think it's worth it TBH unless you're running a decently aggressive cam profile, in which case I'd do both. But funding isn't an issue for me, so if you're trying to stick to a budget (and an OEM cam of some sort) then I'd just use regular valves.

im probably just going to leave it stock for now and see how it all goes down the track ... dont wanna get carried away - especially on a budget and it being my first major head/build work

[beeza]

I fell in love last night.

A dream drive:

http://www.d-series.org/forums/showcase/130907-time-attack-twincharged-d16-build.html

http://i774.photobucket.com/albums/yy25/beeza4/IMG_8435.jpg

Check out how incredibly the car corners,Insane.

http://enmoracing.wordpress.com/category/videos/

[TheSaint]

haha yeah iv seen that - insane build =)

[trism]

lol, i was reading that last night as well, insane.

[beeza]

haha nice!

What a car aye!

[TbM]

Nice find beeza, Looks like an awesome exhaust manifold, putting out some decent Hp and torque for a d series, Have you thought about going FI?

[beeza]

Yeah I have and I still do lol it would be sweet.

My journey has been sweet but,I cant complain.

I just havent got the spare money to do it and if I did I would do something else with it I mean I feel my car will last and I dont want to risk that either...more money...

At the end of the day I love my car and how it performs! Boost would be good to overtake quickly but :) hehehe

[redefine]

i woudnt mind boost either, would consider it before an engine swap....but unfortunately my financial situation has been less then ideal lately... :/ ahh well...

[JDM-derek]

when a d series beats or keeps up wit a b16, makes me proud and i have tears =)

[beeza]

haha yeah,nice one Derek!

It would give the b16 guy tears aswell lol


I just make turbo noises when I overtake Ahahahahaha (it's true hahahahaha)

[TbM]

when a d series beats or keeps up wit a b16, makes me proud and i have tears =):thumbsup:


Lol beeza would be funny seeing you making a spooling sound while overtaking someone,

[beeza]

I'm gettin' better too!

I can make a few :)

I Love the BIG WHOOOOOSH one,just my own sound lol

[TbM]

Lol we need to get you a megaphone :)

[dougie_504]

Lol I do that too, sometimes I'm not even driving, just walking around at work. FFFFFFFF-T-T-T-T!!

[TbM]

http://youtu.be/No_kbFvG_S4

[JDM-derek]

Lol we need to get you a megaphone :)

LOL! I once AUX my Iphone with that Boost app, and put my sound system full blast lol.

[u mad?]

d series owners= weird as fuk

[mugen_ctr]

d series owners= weird as fuk

says the troll with the K20 GTFO LOL >>>>>>>>>>>>>>

[TbM]

d series owners= weird as fuk
http://i1087.photobucket.com/albums/j480/tbmindustrys2/ib98c9jpg.gif

[JDM-derek]

d series owners= weird as fuk

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_llbosmygZ41qzldz3o1_500.gif

[TheSaint]

d series owners= weird as fuk

close the door on your way out of this thread ...

[beeza]

lol Saint

[TheSaint]

http://files.sharenator.com/Gtfo_Bitch_some_GTFO_pics-s550x518-76434-580.jpg

[1996_EK_Civic]

bump for the D,

i've been searching around for a little bit tonight... i'm tossing up whether to get a lightweight flywheel for my y8 and i was wondering what an ideal weight for daily driving would be?

i know i'll probably get flamed for not searching properly but... theres almost 1500 posts in this thread alone plus the rest of the interwebz

any help would be great :)

[Killa From Manila]

lol @ all the d series owners so buthurt

[TheSaint]

bump for the D,

i've been searching around for a little bit tonight... i'm tossing up whether to get a lightweight flywheel for my y8 and i was wondering what an ideal weight for daily driving would be?

i know i'll probably get flamed for not searching properly but... theres almost 1500 posts in this thread alone plus the rest of the interwebz

any help would be great :)

nah its better you asked

check out gripforce member on ebay - he sells a great range of clutch and flywheel packages
the common two are the 10lbs exedy flywheel and the 7lbs fidanza one
i wouldnt go any lighter than 10lbs for daily driving - i have it on my D15b7 and it does suck a little in carparks or 1st gear driving
after 1st gear its amazing tho - one of the best mods i have done to the car so far
7lbs would be great for track - but would be bloody terrible for daily driving

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/EXEDY-RACING-STAGE-1-CLUTCH-KIT-FLYWHEEL-D15-D16-D17-/150548401985?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item230d624f41

[mugen_ctr]

Lighten flywheel should be the least concern on a daily imo.... theres a reason why its at that weight and wheel mass from the factory.... the less wheel mass, the less energy the flywheel can store and release, makes sense doesnt it... id say stick to oem flywheel unless u plan on doin more N/A mods later down the track

[TheSaint]

you will loose a small amount of low end torque - but the engine builds revs much quicker to get up into power band earlier
so personally i think its worth the change

[mugen_ctr]

you will loose a small amount of low end torque - but the engine builds revs much quicker to get up into power band earlier
so personally i think its worth the change

well considering u actually have one, its more than enough proof to get one lol, in theory though from what ive been taught, never touch lighted flywheel unless using for competition

[NelsonLSY]

anyone who bring their D series Civic on track here?