my dc5r would redline to 8200 before, i think i got it on video ill need to find out
with your other question! someone needs to answer that :D
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my dc5r would redline to 8200 before, i think i got it on video ill need to find out
with your other question! someone needs to answer that :D
Cheers :thumbsup: Type S Redline is 8100rpm and i believe the rev limiter is around 8300 / 8400rpm??
The only thing that controls the rev limiter would be the ECU itself. The rev limiter is a set value programmed by the ECU and is not changeable on the stock ECU based on any other factors. The only way you would be able to change the rev limiter is to use modifying the ECU with a program such as Hondata KPRO. With the Hondata KPRO, you can either increase or decrease the value as you please :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mattski_VTIR
Quote:
Originally Posted by EL_DC5
The stock analogue tacho meter is inaccurate and will tend to give you a misleading figure of about up to (+ or -) 300rpm in the upper high rpm boundary. What you are seeing is the result of inertia occuring when the needle revs past a certain point and 'bounces' back. The only way to accurately determine the rpm is to use a digital meter of some sort directly connected to the ECU or a KPRO datalog, RSM or any other digital rev meter reading.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mattski_VTIR
:cool: :angel:
(Btw I'm looking for a post quality point! *hint hint* :p)
Hope this helps! :D
Great thanks, this has just confirmed my original thoughts :thumbsup:
Cheers
From what i know of, the DC5r REDLINES at 7900rpm and the REV LIMITER engages at 8400rpm. I believe this as my type r hits the limiter at 8400 on the dial!
DC5R = MAX 8100Quote:
Originally Posted by didz
DC5S = MAX 8400
thats from honda service i just called them.
Honda has got a bolt for me its a common 8 x 16 bolt. and it was missing from factory on mine for some reasonQuote:
Originally Posted by XP02ED
Interesting, lots of reports ive seen back my claim up of 8400 for the DC5R as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by EL_DC5
Where can i get a digital copy of a Integra DC5 type S complete service manual. the big ass one that Honda uses.
When EL_DC5 says Max, I assume he means rev cut out.Quote:
Originally Posted by didz
DC5S redline (judging from tacho) starts at 8100. engine cuts out at ~ 8400. As some have said, trying to judge actual rpm cutout from the tacho isn't very accurate.
I can't find a close up of an AUDM DC5R tacho right now. From what I can remember the redline starts between 7900 and 8100. As for cutout i'm not sure. but would have thought that it'd be higher than 8100.
Anyway, does replacing your stock airbox with a gruppeM one void your engine warranty?
Man i dont care about red line means nothing to me. maybe redline should be when vtec kick in. But buy max i meant cut out. The Type R engine is inferior to the Type S. if only the S was lighter and had LSD and JDM R Suspension .Quote:
Originally Posted by Hullabaloo
The typeS doesnt have LSD? rofl...
The Type S is a Ripped Off JDM Type R.Quote:
Originally Posted by didz
They took all the good stuff out.
So the S has Gay ECU
Gay NO LSD
GAY Suspension
GAY Exhaust system
GAY Brakes
GAY normal honda badge
GAY generic black pedels..... and so on and so on
hahahah um ok.. i personally think the Type S is a very capable car.. Its not protending to be a Type R like our Aus DC5.
The JDM Type S is sux it has the shit engine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mattski_VTIR
I got a DVD from Best Motoring i think its #16 explains all the JDM line DC5 stuff, DC5R(pre and post facelift) dc5S etc
Yes i know the DVD... its the one were they Race the pre/face lifted model against the new one. Our Type S shares the same cosmetic pieces as the JDM Type S but gets a slightly detuned Type R engine (as the JDM Type S gets the 118kw 5spd version used in our luxury) All i was saying is that the Type S is a very capable car and isn't pretending to be something it isn't :p
Man the typeR has LSD...
JDM typeR > typeS
AUD Type R > TypeS (recaros ftw y0!)
Jap typeS = shit
JDM Type R = Winner. I wanna import one but ****ing stupid sevs laws!
Have to find a privately imported one, very hard to find!
Yeah but i only bought the S because I couldnt get a new type R, we all know we all want the type R (but the real deal)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mattski_VTIR
I want to make my s a R but with know R wing
but slowly slowly. Its expensive buying hondas
I would have bought a Type R if it was a REAL type R. At least the Type S knows what it is :p I wouldn't swap my AUDM TYpe S for an AUDM Type R, plane and simple!
dont be so harsh you will make all the AU Type R guys feel bad,
I dont see the logic in making these drastic variations in the models... Its ****ing stupid, lets DOWNGRADE THE ENGINE, BRAKES, EXHAUST.. **** LETS JUST DOWNGRADE EVERYTHING!
Big sigh....
Ohwell atleast i can beat those fkn r32's and falcodores which litter the streets at night.
And i would NEVER trade my Type R for a Type S
Sorry i didn't mean to come across Mean at all. (and i sure dont want to upset the DC5R guys as i think the S's are out numbered on this forum :p) I think it was silly of Honda to downgrade the AUDM DC5R as the JDM model offers so much. As for the S v's R its all down to preference as they both offer very similar potential.
How do you explain honda taking the good stuff out and putting the price up???Quote:
Originally Posted by Mattski_VTIR
there criminals. They should atleast have the brembos,
Spoken like a true street racer. LOL I got Munched by a New R8 holden 6L V8 but at least i still had fuel after the run LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by didz
Most likely the changes were made to keep the price competitive with similar models in the AUS market. I can handle the little less power, but the brakes and suspension is really what made the Type R.
lol!!!
man i think there was some conspiricy or something going on back when the type R came out.... "we cant let these little things own the falcodores too hard!" Ofcourse no one cares about the evos and sti's because they have such a high pricetag in comparison.
You will find that some things have been taken off - but have you considered the benefits over the type R?Quote:
Originally Posted by EL_DC5
With the better cams and better compression, my car was able to produce the same KW's completely stock with upgraded ECU as what a modded type R with at least exhaust and intake... could possibly be on par with I/H/E and ECU combination in a type R but still waiting to prove this one ;) :)
Toda Spec C Cams. Upgrade ECU, ATS 1.5 Carbon LSD, GruppeM Intake, Toda H/E, Tien Mono Flex coilovers. I would be happy with Oh and Upgrade brakes and anit g oil panQuote:
Originally Posted by Rixsy
AUDM dc5r redline is at 7900rpm.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hullabaloo
as far as the dc5r vs dc5s debate, they are quite different cars which will appeal to different people. i could have got one when i was buying my car and i had quite a few drives of a new one before i made my mind up but i much prefered the recaros, LSD and less sound deadening of the dc5r. while the dc5s is overall quieter and probably easier to live with day to day, easier to get in and out of but the seats suck when going for a fang, and quiter interior.
I agree with what your saying, there two different cars and unfortunately people tend to think theres no market for a Type S. Theres no wrong and right, just different opinions.Quote:
Originally Posted by matt
its personal preference i say, if you are into the street racing look R it is, S is nice for luxury ;D
theres no better i say just what you think is better for the owner ;D
Look The suspension and the interior is what should of only been changed in my opinion. LSD bring no discomfort but lets you put the power down more effectively. The Brakes we all got ripped off with, i dont think most of us would bother upgrading the Stock JDM Brembos.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mattski_VTIR
Yes the LSD in the Type S would have been nice (even as an option). Not an overly expensive mod, but a pain to do after-market none the less.Quote:
Originally Posted by EL_DC5
i have seen a number of discussions of people finding the dc5r brembos lacking in overall perfromance even compared to dc2r brakes. there are heaps of brake options which will perform better than the brembos and be easier to install.Quote:
Originally Posted by EL_DC5
and are you saying only suspension and interior should have been changed from JDM or AUDM dc5r?
For the cost of the JDM DC5 Brembo upgrade to our Integras isn't worth it. There are much better and cheaper alternatives that dont require changing hubs etc.
For Example. I want to get some nice looking brakes with out the 2.5k costQuote:
Originally Posted by Mattski_VTIR
No, its just Ozhonda in general as majority of the drivers here are under 21 hence it won't really interest them (where as the Civic Type R's, Integra Type R's are more suitable for that age bracket).Quote:
Originally Posted by Mattski_VTIR
I've been to market studies for the Type S, where the target market is 25+ (typical purchasers of BMW3's, Audi A4's, Alfas).
Make sense :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by RyDC5S
Cheers
Try looking into options like Spoon and Willwood etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by EL_DC5
I believe theres Traders on here selling Spoon Monocoque Caliper for DC5 for around $1850 - Brand new!
Looking good EL_DC5. I will post up pic's next weekend as my exhaust and cam cover will be in! Someone should do a DIY on the install as there becoming very popular :thumbsup:
Nice installation pictures mate.
As someone posted b4 that the heat shield cuts into the wiring harness, I have Cut a small rubber hose and auto siliconed it to the edge that rubs,
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/attachm...3&d=1180681812
Cowl top off
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/attachm...2&d=1180681812
looking good, get some pics once done :)
BTW heres a link on how to install ;D
http://type-r-owners.co.uk/forums/sh...ad.php?t=26070
gruppem installed
http://users.tpg.com.au/mikul_ha/gruppem.JPG
i will get back to you all on the comparison between the gruppem and injen. :)
that red hose is a bloody distraction... nice intake though! has a sharp sound at the crossover too
very nice, u do know instead of making the intake look funny with the rubber thing to stop the bonnet hitting it, put the rubber sticky thingo on the bonnet like me :D
LOL my intake squeaks, i don't think it's meant to be really tight where the air box and filter clamp.
and HOYA the legend is sending me a new cowl top which he will checks it's quality personally.
cool!
i think im gna remove mine and use the stock afteer doing the customisation which they done here :
http://type-r-owners.co.uk/forums/sh...ad.php?t=26070
but isnt that for the EP3. because they dont make a colw topQuote:
Originally Posted by XP02ED
its goe the same design dont see what the difference will be?
either way im gna use the stock with abit of custom work.. looks better and fits %100 then i may paint that whole arear to same clour as my car ;S
this is when i have time LOL
Just get a fiberglass mould done. so u keep you original,
I think i know why ppl are using more fuel with the GruppeM. I use to rev to 3000 and shift in ordinary driving now i like to hear it Rev to 4000, all unintentional but it sounds so good to rev to 4000. it sounds so right to shit at 4k.
yeh, make sure u reset your ECU too..
btw do u all get a rattle noise from 5th to 6th on 2nd and 3rd gear?
LOL! So true! :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by EL_DC5
nope, after putting foam tape under the cowl, on the strut brace and a thin peice on the inside of the o clamp i got rid of all the rattles :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by XP02ED
nah nah it aint the intake system, i hear it near the oil filter/headers or in engine, it rattles..
maybe its the oil im using i have nfi!
probably the heat sheilds on the exhaust, is it still stock headers?Quote:
Originally Posted by XP02ED
ive had a couple of rattles which were loose heat sheilds.
ah! i thought that was the case, i think there abit loose
and yeh complete stock atm :(
i guess i wont worry to much, :D
i resetted my ECU, which is first time i did this after i put the intake! goddam theres a big difference
i feel better accel, can feel the vtec way more, testing out the k's on the tank atm see if get more ;D
It could be the GruppeM causing the rattle.
nah not the intake, im sure it aint, the intake is rubbered everywhere needed and i definately only here it from 5th-6th near the header area as its pretty close to the driver.. its like a bolt is in the engine bouncing around..
Did you leave a socket in there? :pQuote:
Originally Posted by XP02ED
errr aaronng! your making me think twice! im gna open it up this weekend now! and double check! hahahaha
Almost everyone has done that at least once :). Do a count of your socket set to see if anything is missing.Quote:
Originally Posted by XP02ED
hahahahah thats gna take awhile i got so many sets and i use all of them and there all just thrown into a like a container, it aint gna kill me to check inside so i think thats the best thing to do and check the header shield aswell.
thanks :D
when i installed my intake i forgot to plug a sendor I think the Nox sensor that is next to the heat shield, I took it for a drive and my car was running like shit and wouldnt vtec, so i found it and pluged it back in, dont even know why i unpluged it wasnt in the way, one of those stupid thing you do!. I was getting Engine light and stuff, so i plugged it and took the engine fuse out and it was all sweetQuote:
Originally Posted by XP02ED
Where is the best place to get some of that cushion tape. Im kinda broke so im looking for the cheapest place. ******s Are broke these days.
Bunnings hardware had it cheap, lots of different sizes/thickness too :thumbsup:
try clark rubber as well ;D
i found some kool things there
Like rubber ducks??? and rubber things:pQuote:
Originally Posted by XP02ED
Thanks Guys
so how is it compared to the injen?Quote:
Originally Posted by mikul_ha
i get mine from supercheap. It's the black weather seal thing and comes in a pancake spiral roll. It's heatproof too and lasts longer than the white-coloured Bunning's weather seal.Quote:
Originally Posted by EL_DC5
Recon we can use the parts from the new jdm ctr
"Based on the domestic market four-door Civic, this Type-R has a development of the Integra Type-R's K20A 2-litre i-VTEC engine with 222bhp (5bhp up on the also Japan-only Integra DC5) and 159lb ft – produced nearly 1000rpm lower in the rev-range. That’s well up on the 198bhp and 142lb ft of the official UK-market Type-R. Honda in Japan claims it will hit sixty in under 6 seconds and, thanks to aerodynamic improvements, run on to over 150mph.
However, there's more to it than straight-line speed; the Civic Type-R four-door has been developed on the Tsukuba, Suzuka and Nürburgring racetracks. The spec is astounding: a helical limited-slip diff; a lighter, 50 per cent more rigid bodyshell; 320mm-diameter Brembo brakes; shorter ratios for the first three gears and slightly longer ratios for gears four-six; and lower, stiffer suspension – crucially it has double-wishbone rear suspension rather than the UK car’s cheaper and less precise torsion beam set-up. The Japanese spec also includes super-sticky 225/40 R18 Bridgestone RE070 rubber, a tyre that was first seen on the NSX-R.
The results sound startling – the Civic is 4 seconds quicker around Suzuka than the Integra Type-R, and at Tsukuba it gets to within a second of a standard NSX. "
Which parts do you have in mind?
All the part that are better than in mine!!! LOL.Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
Like the LSD is it better than the CArbon ATS one
The LSD should fit as the K series diff is interchangeable. Euro owners have used DC5R LSDs in their gearbox, so the CTR's will fit in your DC5SQuote:
Originally Posted by EL_DC5
What type is the Carbon ATS LSD? The CTR's is torque sensing (torsen).
the dc5r doesnt have torsen, my knowledge is that its a basic lsd. wouldnt mind a torsen ;)
See the red up in the qoute about the new JDM CTR "a helical limited-slip diff" is that better than the ATS Carbon 1.5 way LSDQuote:
Originally Posted by EL_DC5
DC5R is torsen.Quote:
Originally Posted by didz
What is your definition of a basic LSD?
There are clutch-operated LSDs with 1way, 1.5way and 2way torque transfer, viscous-coupling LSDs and gear-operated LSDs (which are the torsen/quaife).
I know for sure that the DC5R doesn't have a clutch-operated LSD. :)