Wheels Magazine Civic Type R review

**aaronng** · 25-07-2007 06:12 PM

Originally Posted by bennjamin

the higher honda times are due to the meters-above-sea-level. (according to the article). A NA motor works harder the higher up you go

The turbo'd engines were not as adversely affected as the lil honda donk.

The Euro was tested at the same location, but at 5ºC instead of 15ºC. The Euro got 7.8s. Eventhough it was 10ºC, it's no excuse for a CTR to have the same acceleration time as a heavier car with less power and narrower rubber.

**EuroAccord13** · 25-07-2007 06:18 PM

I think it's mainly because most car magazines use the Corravit sensor rather than the normal laser thingy that manufacturers use hence the slower time...

Then again, the test driver might not be launching the car properly..

Happened to the S2000 and I think one of the Toyotas...

**yfin** · 25-07-2007 07:11 PM

Ok, i have the article in front of me - Wheels August 2007. Here are the facts. Temp was lower than I quoted above - 8 degrees.

There is nothing in the article about altitude impacting time Ben.

Times tested with VBOX.

Track: Tooradin Airport
Temp: 8 degrees
Driver: Maurie Piatt

CTR
Speed at indicated 100kph: 92
0-60kph: 3.7
0-80kph: 5.3
0-100kph: 7.8
0-120kph: 10.3
0-140kph: 14.0
0-160kph: -
0-400m: 15.5 @ 148kph

Mini Cooper S
Speed at indicated 100kph: 94

0-60kph: 3.5
0-80kph: 5.2
0-100kph: 7.4
0-120kph: 10.0
0-140kph: 13.7
0-160kph: 18.7
0-400m: 15.4 @ 148kph

Golf GTI
Speed at indicated 100kph: 94

0-60kph: 3.7
0-80kph: 5.1
0-100kph: 7.3
0-120kph: 9.6
0-140kph: 12.8
0-160kph: 16.6
0-400m: 15.2 @ 153kph

**yfin** · 25-07-2007 07:14 PM

Quotes:

"It feels fast, sounds fast and... erm... isn't that fast".

"The figures verify the story. The Civic is well behind both turbos in the 0-100kph VBOX run, even though it launches cleanly enough. In the 80-120kph in gear rolling test it's absolutely hammered. It's at its most competitive over 400m, closing in as that shrieking top end comes into play."

They do love the handling so it is not all bad. And it still wins the test. The focus of my thread is Hondas quoted 6.6.

**ennavoli** · 25-07-2007 07:19 PM

Honda could have quoted 6.6 on a downhill

The results did not surprise me though. I also believe they have the largest rims out of all 3 cars? (Heaviest rims) so that might affect the straight line times.

All in all, they are just too heavy to be quick.

Originally Posted by yfin

Quotes:

"It feels fast, sounds fast and... erm... isn't that fast".

"The figures verify the story. The Civic is well behind both turbos in the 0-100kph VBOX run, even though it launches cleanly enough. In the 80-120kph in gear rolling test it's absolutely hammered. It's at its most competitive over 400m, closing in as that shrieking top end comes into play."

They do love the handling so it is not all bad. And it still wins the test. The focus of my thread is Hondas quoted 6.6.

**UNLS1** · 25-07-2007 07:22 PM

wat was the DC2Rs 0-100 times?

**yfin** · 25-07-2007 07:26 PM

Originally Posted by UNLS1

wat was the DC2Rs 0-100 times?

6.9 to 7.1 is generally what I have seen in magazine tests for DC2R. Haven't seen a Honda quote for that vehicle.

**yfin** · 25-07-2007 07:30 PM

What is with the speedo being so far off on these 3 cars?! 92/94/94 @ 100KPH

**ginganggooly** · 25-07-2007 07:31 PM

Originally Posted by UNLS1

wat was the DC2Rs 0-100 times?

mid-high 14's stock.

I think i remember reading low 15's in the magazines.

**yfin** · 25-07-2007 07:58 PM

By the way if this is the same Tooradin Airport I know in Victoria - it is very close to Westernport. So that is sea level. I went in a helicopter ride there!